College Bball Thread

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

1 minute ago, go iu bb said:

A couple of these seem to contradict each other. I have seen the $20.5M plenty of times but the 22% I don't recall. So does that  Is it the smaller of the two, i.e.,  22% up to $20.5M?  I've always seen the $20.5M as a cap, this says as a start. I'm guessing that just means for the first year.

Also, they say 22% but also 50%. I'm confused. Maybe that 50% includes the scholarships and the possibility of adding more scholarships to sports where there were low caps?

• The deal also creates a new system where colleges that choose to participate can share up to 22% of their revenue from things like TV deals, ticket sales, and sponsorships with their athletes. Experts think this could start at about $20.5 million per year for each school.
• Overall, it's expected that colleges will share about 50% of their sports revenue with athletes. This is similar to how professional sports leagues share money with their players.

Wouldn't worry too much about the language until the judge actually issues an opinion.  That link is just one analysis.  Once a ruling is handed down, there will be enough opinions written to occupy our reading time until bball season starts.

[AZ Hoosier]

Didn't know where to post this... so here it is...

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/44578506/kris-jenkins-sues-ncaa-limiting-pay-villanova

[#1fanofafrin]

So do the introductions really need to take as long as a half to complete?

#GetOffMyLawn #OldManVenting

 

[TheWatShot]

Just now, #1fanofafrin said:

So do the introductions really need to take as long as a half to complete?

#GetOffMyLawn #OldManVenting

 

Still took less time than an official review in the last two minutes. 

[go iu bb]

WSJ has IU as the 3rd most valuable basketball program in the NCAA, behind UNC and Duke. They're almost $100M behind those schools in this valuation. The valuation is done of the idea of what would they be worth if they were professional programs being sold.

https://www.wsj.com/sports/basketball/ncaa-tournament-march-madness-ncaa-team-value-98c44e14

[HoosierFan1994]

Big 12 Player of the year JT Toppin is returning to Texas Tech. This is why I'm overall in favor of NIL, portal, etc. I think it's a great thing when an All-American player is returning. Not sure he would have been a lottery pick, but I think he was going to get drafted this year. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

15 minutes ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

Big 12 Player of the year JT Toppin is returning to Texas Tech. This is why I'm overall in favor of NIL, portal, etc. I think it's a great thing when an All-American player is returning. Not sure he would have been a lottery pick, but I think he was going to get drafted this year. 

Yeah, the sport is WAY better at the top than it has been in a long time.  

[HoosierFan1994]

47 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Yeah, the sport is WAY better at the top than it has been in a long time.  

Unless a player has a great chance of going in the NBA lottery, I would stay in school until their elgibility is done. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

3 minutes ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

Unless a player has a great chance of going in the NBA lottery, I would stay in school until their elgibility is done. 

At this rate unless you are going to actually make the main team's roster you probably stay in college and get 1.5-4 million to play.  These numbers are astronomical.  

[Stuhoo]

2 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

At this rate unless you are going to actually make the main team's roster you probably stay in college and get 1.5-4 million to play.  These numbers are astronomical.  

Yup. More kids are getting college degrees and forgoing the second round of the NBA draft to do so. Almost any kid that can remain eligible at a P5 school is going to stay in school rather than go to the G League or overseas.

[go iu bb]

Congress is getting involved and trying to "help," again. I doubt these make it any further than previous bills.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2025/04/08/college-athletes-employees-ncaa-house-bill/82993033007/

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/new-bill-in-congress-would-revolutionize-college-athletics-and-end-the-ncaa

[go iu bb]

A couple of takeaways from this: 1) Queen obviously doesn't like that Willard is going to Villanova. 2) Villanova basketball started in 1920. To have him be only the 10th coach is impressive.

 

[lillurk]

1 hour ago, go iu bb said:

A couple of takeaways from this: 1) Queen obviously doesn't like that Willard is going to Villanova. 2) Villanova basketball started in 1920. To have him be only the 10th coach is impressive.

 

Indeed — believe Bill Self is only Kansas’s 8th coach, and they’ve been around since 1898, even more insane. (They’ve had 9, but the 9th was Norm Roberts subbing for Self for 4 games.)

[Scotty R]

59 minutes ago, lillurk said:

Indeed — believe Bill Self is only Kansas’s 8th coach, and they’ve been around since 1898, even more insane. (They’ve had 9, but the 9th was Norm Roberts subbing for Self for 4 games.)

It is like the Steelers who has only had 3 coaches since 1969

[go iu bb]

It looks like the NIL clearinghouse may never come to be. Even if it does, I doubt it'll last long before getting sued out of existence.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2025/04/07/house-ncaa-settlement-hearing-live-updates-college-sports/82968197007/

The judge had a concern about this, among a few other things:

●The justification for a setup under which athletes’ name, image and likeness deals with entities other than their school that have a value of more than $600 would be subject to a review process to assess their legitimacy within the marketplace and such a deal with an athlete advances what is being termed by the NCAA and the conferences as “a valid business purpose.”

Wilken's concerns with rules around athlete NIL deals with third parties

Judge Wilken says she needs a "pro-competitve justification" for the proposed system under the settlement that would set up a more stringent evaluation by the NCAA and conferences of the athletes' NIL deals that are worth more than $600. That is, how would this promote competition for athletes' NIL services and how would it not hurt athletes.

Kilaru says these evaluations are necessary to prevent circumvention of the schools' annual cap on direct NIL payments to athletes and that it's part of the overall agreement.

Wilken reponds: "Each thing (in the agreement) needs to be reasonable."

[Home Jersey]

SIAP - Huss going back to Creighton as HC in waiting. 

[AZ Hoosier]

1 hour ago, Home Jersey said:

SIAP - Huss going back to Creighton as HC in waiting. 

I saw that... brilliant move by McDermott... Huss is gonna kill it when he gets the reins...

[swingline91]

Somebody needs to go get this for their basement. https://www.govdeals.com/en/asset/16226/3923

[go iu bb]

LOL They should go ahead and make the T--shirts.

They'll be good but certainly not 40-0 good and no way it's the greatest roster ever.

 

[TheWatShot]

16 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

LOL They should go ahead and make the T--shirts.

They'll be good but certainly not 40-0 good and no way it's the greatest roster ever.

 

I hope they play an SEC team so we can watch Smith and Loyer get abused again.