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16 hours ago, bigrod said:

I'm not a proponent of the people who claim our fan base is the issue, but wow, spend a little time on the board and it makes you wonder.

Imagine how much worse it would be if we were in the same situation and Tucker was still in the portal and/or Sisley reopened his recruitment.

[MikeRoberts 7,949]

19 hours ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

Yeah, anybody can look at how DeVries handled this last year and see how nutso it is that people think we should have a full staff and half a roster announced.  His staff wasn’t complete for 3 months.  The bulk of his roster signings came in mid to late April, with the star of the class signing May 1, and another in June.  Christ, some of you are gonna need daily wellness visits by then.

And none of the staff he picked are coming with him here and none of those recruits sans his son wanted to come with him here and that team didn’t make the tourney so what is your point other than to bash people on this board?

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And none of the staff he picked are coming with him here and none of those recruits sans his son wanted to come with him here and that team didn’t make the tourney so what is your point other than to bash people on this board?

Yes! I am praying this isn't another situation where everything is fine and everyone is crazy for panicking until it isn't. Everyone could be overreacting or there could be underlying circumstances like possibly everyone not being in favor of how he handled bailing on west v after only 1 year. Could be nothing could be a problem?

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[MikeRoberts 7,949]

4 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

Yes! I am praying this isn't another situation where everything is fine and everyone is crazy for panicking until it isn't. Everyone could be overreacting or there could be underlying circumstances like possibly everyone not being in favor of how he handled bailing on west v after only 1 year. Could be nothing could be a problem?

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That’s right. Everything could be A Ok and all a part of some ingenious plan but there are signs already that things are not going as planned. The fact that we don’t have a complete staff out recruiting and bringing their players here is a real head scratcher and also a head scratcher nobody followed DeVries here that wasn’t his son. That is one of the most important reasons to hire a P5 coach is to have them bring some of that talent with them and that didn’t really happen.

[HoosierTrav 8,299]

I have a question for those who would know……. How many of the same people responsible for hiring/retaining Mike Woodson were still in a position of decision making authority for the most recent hiring cycle? 

[IUHoosierJoe 2,118]

1 hour ago, MikeRoberts said:

And none of the staff he picked are coming with him here and none of those recruits sans his son wanted to come with him here and that team didn’t make the tourney so what is your point other than to bash people on this board?

My point was to lay out a few facts as to how DeVries went about a similar situation last year, to help people settle down.  Much on the same timeline as May, Pope, and Kelsey last year (who all made the tournament by the way).  You're welcome to work yourself up in a lather over a coach that's been here 2 weeks, though.  

As someone else commented in response to my post, I'm not one to blame the fanbase for the programs' failings.  I've been around a long time and supported an underachieving program for a quarter century now, just like many others have.  Most fans are beyond great.  But I gotta tell ya, this board's response to not having a full staff and at least half a full roster when no facts or evidence suggests that is a realistic expectation makes this fanbase look very soft and emotionally fragile.  Quite frankly, it is embarrassing.  How about if we give the guy a chance.  

There, did I bash people on this board enough for ya this time?

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43 minutes ago, HoosierTrav said:

I have a question for those who would know……. How many of the same people responsible for hiring/retaining Mike Woodson were still in a position of decision making authority for the most recent hiring cycle? 

My perspective fwiw after following this closely:

While Scott was AD, Quinn/Ferguson/other donors very heavily influenced the Woody hire and keeping him on for a 4th year.  Tough for a new AD to go against the Chairman of the BoT and large donors, they have to approve the coach hire.  Last year when Woody failed and football did very well, Scott gained a lot of credibility and influence.

This search was basically all Scott with Pam in support (like the Cig hire).  This has been confirmed by folks who cover IU and it also proved out by the lack of leaks (only Scott and 2-3 other people knew).  So good or bad, in my view CDD is basically all on Scott.  

As an aside, I think it's good our AD is running our athetlic dept again.  If the results are poor, fine, change the AD, but we can't have the BoT/donors/Presidents doing the AD's job, because that group of people is terrible at running an athletic dept.

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3 minutes ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

My point was to lay out a few facts as to how DeVries went about a similar situation last year, to help people settle down.  Much on the same timeline as May, Pope, and Kelsey last year (who all made the tournament by the way).  You're welcome to work yourself up in a lather over a coach that's been here 2 weeks, though.  

As someone else commented in response to my post, I'm not one to blame the fanbase for the programs' failings.  I've been around a long time and supported an underachieving program for a quarter century now, just like many others have.  Most fans are beyond great.  But I gotta tell ya, this board's response to not having a full staff and at least half a full roster when no facts or evidence suggests that is a realistic expectation makes this fanbase look very soft and emotionally fragile.  Quite frankly, it is embarrassing.  How about if we give the guy a chance.  

There, did I bash people on this board enough for ya this time?

Yeah, you did a pretty good job of bashing people on this board this time as well - “Emotionally fragile” “embarrassing”. Not sure why you need to talk about people on this board that way. I haven’t seen anyone acting that way. 

it’s fair to point out what coach did last year and what other coaches did last year but the need to throw in jabs is strange. 
 

it’s entirely fair to point out how slow things are moving along. Whether you believe this is intentional and a part of a plan or not intentional and cause for concern is why we’re here - to discuss

[IUHoosierJoe 2,118]

5 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

Yeah, you did a pretty good job of bashing people on this board this time as well - “Emotionally fragile” “embarrassing”. Not sure why you need to talk about people on this board that way. I haven’t seen anyone acting that way. 

it’s fair to point out what coach did last year and what other coaches did last year but the need to throw in jabs is strange. 
 

it’s entirely fair to point out how slow things are moving along. Whether you believe this is intentional and a part of a plan or not intentional and cause for concern is why we’re here - to discuss

“Discuss” is exactly what I did.  And again, things are moving “slow” compared to what?  Compared to any school’s timeline that has ever done this before?  No.  Compared to unrealistic expectations of some people who apparently believe our timeline should be different from everyone who’s ever done this before?  Perhaps so.

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Guys, when we argue among ourselves that’s just what the commies want.

[TheWatShot 15,457]

Was it true that DeVries didn't tell any of his players or assistants he was leaving for IU, he just took off? Could explain why nobody wanted to follow him here. 

[8bucks 7,488]

7 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

Was it true that DeVries didn't tell any of his players or assistants he was leaving for IU, he just took off? Could explain why nobody wanted to follow him here. 

Makes me wonder but he did have 2 people follow him. Would have expected more but will let it play out. 

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Post the assistant positions on ZipRecruiter already!

:)

[Chris007 61,809]

Rod Clark might take the spot Preston Murphy didn’t take.

[bigrod 3,138]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

Rod Clark might take the spot Preston Murphy didn’t take.

We could use another Rod up in these parts! Just not a big one.

[Chris007 61,809]

9 minutes ago, bigrod said:

We could use another Rod up in these parts! Just not a big one.

If you miss on Dix go get a Rod

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Just now, Chris007 said:

If you miss on Dix go get a Rod

Is the Texas Tech guy a lock? 

[Chris007 61,809]

Just now, IvanRenkosillegitimatechild said:

Is the Texas Tech guy a lock? 

Yes I believe he’s already working with the staff.

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,110]

Rod Clark might take the spot Preston Murphy didn’t take.

You are hearing Murphy is a no? Makes sense but not what I was hearing yet.


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Are the coaches in San Antonio for the Final Four? If so, I’d expect the staff to be rounded out by the beginning of the week.