2024 IUFB Season

[Hoosierfan2017]

 

I really just am not seeing what others appear to be seeing in Jackson. He played one full game this year and went 11-19 for 124 yards, 1 TD, and 1 INT. It was the second lowest game of the year in both passing yards and completion percentage. What has he shown to make people confident he can be the guy to lead IU to a playoff appearance next season? 

[CSP]

4 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

 

I really just am not seeing what others appear to be seeing in Jackson. He played one full game this year and went 11-19 for 124 yards, 1 TD, and 1 INT. It was the second lowest game of the year in both passing yards and completion percentage. What has he shown to make people confident he can be the guy to lead IU to a playoff appearance next season? 

Did you watch that game? The Washington game... because bringing up the INT in that game is... ehhh lol.. definitely not on him.  

Plus.. the 2nd half against Nebraska was a good of a QB'ed half as we've seen. . It's really not about numbers for me. 

Everyone has said,  let's go grab a portal guy, I just don't know for sure if that guy is beating TJ out after how well he's played this year and an extra year in the system 

[IUHoosierJoe]

7 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

 

I really just am not seeing what others appear to be seeing in Jackson. He played one full game this year and went 11-19 for 124 yards, 1 TD, and 1 INT. It was the second lowest game of the year in both passing yards and completion percentage. What has he shown to make people confident he can be the guy to lead IU to a playoff appearance next season? 

The second half of the Nebraska game.  7-8, 91 yards, 2 TDs.  16.4 yards per attempt.  Some fantastic throws, and the one incompletion was a drop.

[CSP]

Furthermore-- from what we've seen from Washington/Tayven... 

I think we'd have the exact same record, 11-1, if Tayven had started every game. 

[CSP]

1 minute ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

The second half of the Nebraska game.  7-8, 91 yards, 2 TDs.  16.4 yards per attempt.  Some fantastic throws, and the one incompletion was a drop.

And a 15 yard rushing TD called back for a hold. Unbelievably good half while coming in "cold". 

[Hovadipo]

Washington was the perfect game to have to play without Rourke. A really good and talented pass defense and, as we made quite evident, a pretty horrible run defense. Tayven played well, but I'm not sure Rourke would've thrown it a whole lot more than Tayven did. I'm pretty bullish on Tayven working under this staff (and competing with Cherry/Mendoza/portal guy) for another offseason.

[CSP]

14 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Washington was the perfect game to have to play without Rourke. A really good and talented pass defense and, as we made quite evident, a pretty horrible run defense. Tayven played well, but I'm not sure Rourke would've thrown it a whole lot more than Tayven did. I'm pretty bullish on Tayven working under this staff (and competing with Cherry/Mendoza/portal guy) for another offseason.

Pretty good 3 halves of football in a row for TJ from 2H of Nebraska through full game against Washington. 2 bowl teams 

Edited December 4, 2024 by Certified Sunshine Pumper

[J34]

5 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I hate these people so much. Why did they all decide to make IU the target of their angst? Our schedule had the two teams that played in the national championship game last year on it. It’s not our fault they both dropped off. 

“We’re not really doing this, are we? We're not really rewarding a team for simply winning games against overmatched competition” ok, but why should we reward SEC teams for losing games against overmatched competition? Alabama lost to two 6-6 teams. Ole Miss lost to a 7-5 team and an 8-4 team. Ole Miss beat its 2-10 rival by 12 points last weekend. We beat our 1-11 rival by 66 points last weekend. We have more wins by 14+ points than Ole Miss or Alabama have total. 

The SEC slobberers are embarrassing themselves. 

Elitist mentality! These people are truly despicable. One week they yell from the top of their lungs about SOS. Then when the metrics changed, they moved on to the "my dad can beat up your dad" argument. With their logic, let's add 3 loss Illinois to conversation. After all,  they did beat a team (Kansas) who went on a 3 game W streak against ranked opponents. lol 

[go iu bb]

For S&G I went and looked back at some of the preseason predictions. Good stuff.

When it came to IU, many of them were "just a bit outside," like Vaughn in Major League.

A couple of the worst. Only 15 spots off for IU:

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/big-ten-football-2024-predictions#gid=ci02e10e3b700025c7&pid=big-ten-football-2024-predictions

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10132265-big-ten-football-preview-and-predictions-for-2024-season

Slightly better at 16th:

https://www.si.com/college/michigan/football/predicting-every-big-ten-football-team-s-record-in-2024-michigan-ohio-state-washington-usc-ucla-iowa-oregon-wisconsin-illinois-indiana-michigan-state

A bit better. They at least had IU as one of the most underrated teams, yet none of them picked IU higher than 11th:

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/big-ten-expert-picks-2024-most-overrated-and-underrated-teams-projected-order-of-finish-bold-predictions/

[LamarCheeks]

47 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

For S&G I went and looked back at some of the preseason predictions. Good stuff.

When it came to IU, many of them were "just a bit outside," like Vaughn in Major League.

A couple of the worst. Only 15 spots off for IU:

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/big-ten-football-2024-predictions#gid=ci02e10e3b700025c7&pid=big-ten-football-2024-predictions

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10132265-big-ten-football-preview-and-predictions-for-2024-season

Slightly better at 16th:

https://www.si.com/college/michigan/football/predicting-every-big-ten-football-team-s-record-in-2024-michigan-ohio-state-washington-usc-ucla-iowa-oregon-wisconsin-illinois-indiana-michigan-state

A bit better. They at least had IU as one of the most underrated teams, yet none of them picked IU higher than 11th:

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/big-ten-expert-picks-2024-most-overrated-and-underrated-teams-projected-order-of-finish-bold-predictions/

And this is what is so dadgum frustrating about all the noise from our CFP berth. 

We are the WORST program in major college football history. We were picked to finish as low as 17th in the 18-team Big Ten (from what I recall). And we had a new coach and a pretty big roster turnover. All we did was finish 11-1 -- with every win (save Michigan) coming by at least two touchdowns and our only loss coming on the road to the No. 2-ranked team. We also beat the two teams that appeared in last year's national title game. 

And instead of just letting us enjoy our season, the noisemakers want to shite all over us. My mom (God rest her soul) would just tell me to ignore it -- but man, it's annoying AF. 

[go iu bb]

11 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

And this is what is so dadgum frustrating about all the noise from our CFP berth. 

We are the WORST program in major college football history. We were picked to finish as low as 17th in the 18-team Big Ten (from what I recall). And we had a new coach and a pretty big roster turnover. All we did was finish 11-1 -- with every win (save Michigan) coming by at least two touchdowns and our only loss coming on the road to the No. 2-ranked team. We also beat the two teams that appeared in last year's national title game. 

And instead of just letting us enjoy our season, the noisemakers want to shite all over us. My mom (God rest her soul) would just tell me to ignore it -- but man, it's annoying AF. 

It really is annoying, especially since those same people think a team like Alabama absolutely deserves to be in despite loosing to 6-6 Vanderbilt and getting blown out by 6-6 Oklahoma 24-3. They also ignore other teams with weak schedules like Texas, PSU, ND, SMU.

[cthomas]

2 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

 

I really just am not seeing what others appear to be seeing in Jackson. He played one full game this year and went 11-19 for 124 yards, 1 TD, and 1 INT. It was the second lowest game of the year in both passing yards and completion percentage. What has he shown to make people confident he can be the guy to lead IU to a playoff appearance next season? 

I'm kinda in the same place. I like Jackson a lot, especially because he's a local guy who I followed in high school. But he does not process the game the way that Rourke does. Rourke's brain is elite. Maybe, and I hope, Jackson can get there with the help of this staff. But I don't want to go into next season counting on that to happen. I don't think CCC does either.

[Banksyrules]

30 minutes ago, cthomas said:

I'm kinda in the same place. I like Jackson a lot, especially because he's a local guy who I followed in high school. But he does not process the game the way that Rourke does. Rourke's brain is elite. Maybe, and I hope, Jackson can get there with the help of this staff. But I don't want to go into next season counting on that to happen. I don't think CCC does either.

I wonder how Rourke’s looked when he was a sophomore. QB are sometimes a wild card.  One year they stink the next they finally get it.  

[steubenhoosier]

2 hours ago, LamarCheeks said:

And this is what is so dadgum frustrating about all the noise from our CFP berth. 

We are the WORST program in major college football history. We were picked to finish as low as 17th in the 18-team Big Ten (from what I recall). And we had a new coach and a pretty big roster turnover. All we did was finish 11-1 -- with every win (save Michigan) coming by at least two touchdowns and our only loss coming on the road to the No. 2-ranked team. We also beat the two teams that appeared in last year's national title game. 

And instead of just letting us enjoy our season, the noisemakers want to shite all over us. My mom (God rest her soul) would just tell me to ignore it -- but man, it's annoying AF. 

Dadgum? Is Lamar Cheeks code name for Roy Williams?

[Hoosierfan2017]

3 hours ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Did you watch that game? The Washington game... because bringing up the INT in that game is... ehhh lol.. definitely not on him.  

Plus.. the 2nd half against Nebraska was a good of a QB'ed half as we've seen. . It's really not about numbers for me. 

Everyone has said,  let's go grab a portal guy, I just don't know for sure if that guy is beating TJ out after how well he's played this year and an extra year in the system 

Yes, I watched the Washington game. Jackson was fine in it. He didn’t do anything to lose us the game, but the offense wasn’t as electric as it has been with Rourke. 

He stepped in and played well against Nebraska, but calling it “as good of a QB’ed half as we’ve seen” is overselling it quite a bit… Rourke went 17-21 for 186 yards in the first half of the same game.. 

If we bring in portal guys and Jackson wins the competition, great. I don’t care who the quarterback is. I just want him to be a stud. But Jackson hasn’t shown enough through his first three years of college for us to rely on him being that guy. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

27 minutes ago, Banksyrules said:

I wonder how Rourke’s looked when he was a sophomore. QB are sometimes a wild card.  One year they stink the next they finally get it.  

Jackson’s in his third year of college though. It’s impossible to predict how he’ll do next year, but we saw the lack of a QB doom Michigan’s season this year. I don’t want the same thing to happen to us next year. 

[cthomas]

1 hour ago, Banksyrules said:

I wonder how Rourke’s looked when he was a sophomore. QB are sometimes a wild card.  One year they stink the next they finally get it.  

I fully understand that. Like I said it would be great if Jackson gets to that level. I'm rooting hard for that to happen. CCC sees them every day. I'm going to trust him on what he thinks he needs at qb. It's a hard business where we want to be. There's no place for sentimental choices.

[RaceToTheTop]

2 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Jackson’s in his third year of college though. It’s impossible to predict how he’ll do next year, but we saw the lack of a QB doom Michigan’s season this year. I don’t want the same thing to happen to us next year. 

One thing I will say is that:

1.  IU's offensive system is better than Michigan's from a coaching standpoint.

2.  At one point Jack freaking Tuttle had the starting QB job at Michigan this year....it was a very bad QB room.

I'm not saying Tayveon Jackson is going to be the starting QB next year but I do think we have two viable options in Tayveon Jackson and Tyler Cherry entering the season.  That said, I fully expect that IU will be bringing in a QB through the portal who at the minimum is competing for the job and more likely will be expected to be the starter.

[CSP]

12 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Yes, I watched the Washington game. Jackson was fine in it. He didn’t do anything to lose us the game, but the offense wasn’t as electric as it has been with Rourke. 

He stepped in and played well against Nebraska, but calling it “as good of a QB’ed half as we’ve seen” is overselling it quite a bit… Rourke went 17-21 for 186 yards in the first half of the same game.. 

If we bring in portal guys and Jackson wins the competition, great. I don’t care who the quarterback is. I just want him to be a stud. But Jackson hasn’t shown enough through his first three years of college for us to rely on him being that guy. 

Yeah and if Coby doesn't drop the crosser he could have been 9-9 140 yards and 3TDs.... it's not over selling. Plus his feet are very good and he's seems to have gotten faster. 

All I know.. Jackson has looked good to very good this year when given opportunities. But no one is arguing against adding a portal guy.  

[CSP]

12 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Jackson’s in his third year of college though. It’s impossible to predict how he’ll do next year, but we saw the lack of a QB doom Michigan’s season this year. I don’t want the same thing to happen to us next year. 

Why is it impossible to predict? We've seen him play very well this season. 

What game would we have lost if he had QBed? 

Only game you can really say is Michigan and I think we would have utilized his feet more and given us an advantage. Rourke wasn't particularly stellar in that game, but he did make 2 or 3 excellent throws and two of those were on TDs.