Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[Victor]

11 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

switch a lot and double the post

I watched a lot of DeVries teams and just started looking at his defense tendencies. Was not much if any switching. They play a classic Packline. Extended more. They play gaps off the ball. Tag and trail on the guards/wings. They do go under screens at the key some depending on scouting(imho). They hard hedge some. I could be wrong but I’m going to bet they won’t switch much. 

[Victor]

24 minutes ago, Unexpectedflash said:

Looks like we’ll switch everything on defense and I assume have a lot of on ball pressure. Obviously you’d like a rim protector but not having one isn’t the end all be all if the perimeter defenders hold their own. A post up is the least efficient play in basketball. On the plus side I would be shocked if we don’t have a top 20 offense. We may force teams to play smaller to matchup with us 

Packline doesn’t switch much if any. On ball screeds maybe. 

[Juwan Moye]

You can get the DVD to learn the pack line from DeVries, sounds like a fun weekend:

 

https://www.championshipproductions.com/cgi-bin/champ/p/Basketball/Open-Practice-Building-the-Pack-Line-Defense-from-the-Ground-Up_BD-05617A.html

[str8baller]

33 minutes ago, Juwan Moye said:

Fast-paced, guard-centric offense with an emphasis on shooting the ball.

Defensively still unsure. He plays a version of the pack line but I’ve not dug into that too much. 

If I only looked at the offensive personnel I might think that too.  
 

Two problems with this idea of a fast paced, gunning team a la Alabama or UK last year: 

1) To play the style of defense he seems to want to play, a super fast pace isn’t ideal. To play packline and protect the rim by stopping dribble penetration, you’ll generally want to get back and get set up and then let the shot clock be your friend. Last year at WVU they were super slow at 331 in tempo, which brings me to point #2…

 

2) Just looking at his teams historically they’ve been pretty middle of the pack in pace. I’d almost call them pace nuetral. Last year they were really slow and his first year at Drake they were just inside the top 100 in pace.  
 

None of this is meant to be critical of CDD. I’m just saying, I’m curious what he does. If he does what he did last year, it’ll be the polar opposite of what everyone here expects. And if he does what everyone here is saying they expect it’ll be a pre big departure from what he’s generally done. 

[HoosierHoopster]

27 minutes ago, Victor said:

I watched a lot of DeVries teams and just started looking at his defense tendencies. Was not much if any switching. They play a classic Packline. Extended more. They play gaps off the ball. Tag and trail on the guards/wings. They do go under screens at the key some depending on scouting(imho). They hard hedge some. I could be wrong but I’m going to bet they won’t switch much. 

Good post, but every season? I’ve seen some switching on some of his teams a while back, we’ll see how much roster construction plays into the defensive schemes 

[Unexpectedflash]

28 minutes ago, Victor said:

I watched a lot of DeVries teams and just started looking at his defense tendencies. Was not much if any switching. They play a classic Packline. Extended more. They play gaps off the ball. Tag and trail on the guards/wings. They do go under screens at the key some depending on scouting(imho). They hard hedge some. I could be wrong but I’m going to bet they won’t switch much. 

Idk maybe he makes some tweaks? In my opinion it doesn't make sense to build a team with a bunch of big wings that would be good at switching and then do no switching but who knows Im not the coach 

[realTomCrean]

Is Kaleb Banks not the prototype build for what Devries has recruited to 

[Hoosierfanyuh]

14 minutes ago, realTomCrean said:

Is Kaleb Banks not the prototype build for what Devries has recruited to 

He’s the prototype of what most coaches want. Woodson destroyed his stock.

[Home Jersey]

5 hours ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

He’s the prototype of what most coaches want. Woodson destroyed his stock.

IMO, Banks (and to a much lesser degree, Gunn) hardly had a fair chance here. Banks was on a very short leash and was raw, but showed plenty of flashes. Tulane got a lot out of him this year. He just needed the opportunity to play long enough to get into a good flow for the game IMO. Like if Crean only ever played OG for 5 mins a game. Gunn played more and was frustrating at times but also had untapped potential, as evidenced by his season at DePaul. Curious to see how Banks does in the Big East. They’ve clearly bonded over their negative experiences with Woody lol.

[CSP]

27 minutes ago, realTomCrean said:

Is Kaleb Banks not the prototype build for what Devries has recruited to 

yes lol 

but he's a 4 and not someone you play with a back to the basket big guy 

[str8baller]

39 minutes ago, Unexpectedflash said:

Idk maybe he makes some tweaks? In my opinion it doesn't make sense to build a team with a bunch of big wings that would be good at switching and then do no switching but who knows Im not the coach 

How many can you get on the floor at one time though? Gonna start a pg and then Tucker and Bailey at the 4/5. If Coneroy is the pg, he seems pretty switchable, but you can’t let Bailey and Tucker get switched onto bad matchups on the perimeter and killed in space. Remember when teams started doing that to Goode last year? 
 

With that said, it looks like if CDD were so inclined he could have a few subs come in and have a lineup that switches everything. 

[dwtaylor1055]

better question is does CDD do mass substitutions 4 minutes into the game? 

[realTomCrean]

https://x.com/tiptonedits/status/1917278813928513972?s=46&t=KBMjZuJJTG50JspPvw-4aA

[CSP]

8 minutes ago, str8baller said:

How many can you get on the floor at one time though? Gonna start a pg and then Tucker and Bailey at the 4/5. If Coneroy is the pg, he seems pretty switchable, but you can’t let Bailey and Tucker get switched onto bad matchups on the perimeter and killed in space. Remember when teams started doing that to Goode last year? 
 

With that said, it looks like if CDD were so inclined he could have a few subs come in and have a lineup that switches everything. 

Neither one will get killed in space, though. That's why we have them switch. 

[CSP]

Just now, realTomCrean said:

https://x.com/tiptonedits/status/1917278813928513972?s=46&t=KBMjZuJJTG50JspPvw-4aA

dear god.. lock this kid in a weight room

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

3 minutes ago, realTomCrean said:

https://x.com/tiptonedits/status/1917278813928513972?s=46&t=KBMjZuJJTG50JspPvw-4aA

I haven't gone back and looked but aren't there some issues with Bundalo that suggest he wouldn't be a DDV target?

[iu eyedoc]

2 hours ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

https://x.com/daily_hoosier/status/1917227679872696439?s=46

 

length will also help with defensive efforts 

Reminds me a bit of the 2013 Syracuse team that had 1 guy over 6'9 but their guard and wing length just confounded IU. Hopefully IU can play at a similar level defensively minus the march up zone.

 

[go iu bb]

2 hours ago, str8baller said:

Does Leo Curtis count as a developmental guy or did he already sign somewhere else? I’m just catching back up after the weekend…

Rabby says that Curtis is still a possibility but unlikely at this time. He does not consider him a developmental guy, he just doesn't think he'll end up at IU.

[Scotty R]

15 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

Reminds me a bit of the 2013 Syracuse team that had 1 guy over 6'9 but their guard and wing length just confounded IU. Hopefully IU can play at a similar level defensively minus the march up zone.

 

One of my favorite non IU teams to watch were the 1989 Illinois team. All of their starters were between 6'4 - 6'8 and don't they really had anyone taller than 6'8 who played.

[jermhoosierfan]

1 hour ago, Juwan Moye said:

You can get the DVD to learn the pack line from DeVries, sounds like a fun weekend:

 

https://www.championshipproductions.com/cgi-bin/champ/p/Basketball/Open-Practice-Building-the-Pack-Line-Defense-from-the-Ground-Up_BD-05617A.html

Great, now I see this pop up in the small ads on a website after clicking on this link.  LOL