Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[str8baller]

24 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Ballo played with Tubelis 2 years ago (6’10 240 lbs) who had almost identical shooting numbers to Reneau. They essentially played two traditional bigs with 3 dynamic guards only one of which shot above 40% from 3. They had a top 5 KenPom offense.

They were up tempo and shot the heck out of the ball from 3. They were 48th in 3s made and 20th in percentage.  Had two guys over 40% and several more north of 35%. 

 

Not really comparable to Woodys IU teams. 

[AH1971]

3 minutes ago, str8baller said:

They were up tempo and shot the heck out of the ball from 3. They were 48th in 3s made and 20th in percentage.  Had two guys over 40% and several more north of 35%. 

 

Not really comparable to Woodys IU teams. 

Right, they had good guards lol. You can play Ballo and Reneau together and still make it work. That was literally the point I was making.

[IUFAN1976]

1 hour ago, Hoosierfan1901 said:

Myles Rice

Kannan Carlyle

Oumar Ballo

Connor Hickman 

Yes, I want all of these portal transfer to suit up in the candy stripes next year!!!!

[IUFAN1976]

1 hour ago, RaceToTheTop said:

If you take a look at the first post in this thread, @Class of '66 Old Farthas posted the full names of everyone IU has contacted.

Well who in the he double hockey sticks wants to go all they way back to the first post in this thread.  And who would have thought anyone would have posted every portal transfer that iU has contacted?  Especially for us working class citizens who only get on here occasionally, I definitely get on here more than I really have time for, lol.  Come on Brum, have a little compassion for your fellow IU fans. lol 

[BGVille Hoosierfan]

59 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Assembly Call had a great take on this the other day. Ballo played with Tubelis 2 years ago (6’10 240 lbs) who had almost identical shooting numbers to Reneau. They essentially played two traditional bigs with 3 dynamic guards only one of which shot above 40% from 3. They had a top 5 KenPom offense.

Ballo is not a high usage player. He’s not somebody who takes 15 shots a game that you force feed every possession. He’s great in PnR lob action and a garbage man on the offensive boards. Get the ball up to the rim and he’s going to get it.

I question whether some of those at Assembly Call understand basketball, especially after comments like this. Tubelis was way more versatile than Malik AND an All-American. Malik has nowhere near the same game or level of play of Tubelis. They were pumping out so much confidence last season about being contenders while those of us who understand the game, questioned Woodys scheme and potential spacing issues on offense, which came to fruition. Rice and Carlyle can create BUT Ballo and Malik will be clogging up the driving lanes. Woody NEEDS shooters if he’s going to play this style. 

[str8baller]

23 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Right, they had good guards lol. You can play Ballo and Reneau together and still make it work. That was literally the point I was making.

 

You missed the point.  It wasn't only quality of guards but style of play. Woody can change the former but not the latter.  

 

You tried to make it out like hiting 3s wasnt key to them having a top 5 offense saying only one guy shot over 40% from 3.  

 

[Home Jersey]

Hickman is visiting soon right? 

The more I think about it the more I want him.

[AH1971]

13 minutes ago, BGVille Hoosierfan said:

I question whether some of those at Assembly Call understand basketball, especially after comments like this. Tubelis was way more versatile than Malik AND an All-American. Malik has nowhere near the same game or level of play of Tubelis. They were pumping out so much confidence last season about being contenders while those of us who understand the game, questioned Woodys scheme and potential spacing issues on offense, which came to fruition. Rice and Carlyle can create BUT Ballo and Malik will be clogging up the driving lanes. Woody NEEDS shooters if he’s going to play this style. 

Tubelis was a better version of Malik, didn’t insinuate otherwise, but their roles were eerily similar. They didn’t play 4 out. They played essentially two traditional bigs and made it work because they had guards (multiple) who could create their own shot. IU has had one guard in 3 years capable of doing such at a high level. 

[hotjawns]

if ballo comes to bloomington, we’re going to need a collective effort to make sure his breadstick and cheesy bread intake is kept in check. 

[HoosierHoopster]

1 hour ago, str8baller said:

They were up tempo and shot the heck out of the ball from 3. They were 48th in 3s made and 20th in percentage.  Had two guys over 40% and several more north of 35%. 

 

Not really comparable to Woodys IU teams. 

Right, completely different offensive system 

[AH1971]

4 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Right, completely different offensive system 

It’s not a completely different offensive system other than playing at a faster tempo. A more effective version sure, they had better guards. That’s obvious. 

[Hoosierfan1901]

https://x.com/adamhoward0/status/1778949884038513106?s=46&t=0mbJ_TT4MQ8KZKv29ZqhSg

[dwtaylor1055]

1 minute ago, Hoosierfan1901 said:

https://x.com/adamhoward0/status/1778949884038513106?s=46&t=0mbJ_TT4MQ8KZKv29ZqhSg

Could it be because players are arriving? 

[Hoosierfan1901]

2 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said:

Could it be because players are arriving? 

Probably 

[Uspshoosier]

https://x.com/itsantwright/status/1778956683303149821?s=46

[WayneFleekHoosier]

If Carlyle, Rice, Ballo happen. That’s our projected “possible starters”.

 

Grace college BIG is high likelihood to be a backup.

MAYBE 1 more guard. 1 more “shooter Wing” maybe.

 

Color me curious what they are trying to cook up.

 

As I said a month ago, Cupps may be our Essegian this year and that would be a good thing. Perfect depth piece though. Want to see Newton play at some point.

 

 

 

 

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[BGVille Hoosierfan]

1 hour ago, AH1971 said:

Tubelis was a better version of Malik, didn’t insinuate otherwise, but their roles were eerily similar. They didn’t play 4 out. They played essentially two traditional bigs and made it work because they had guards (multiple) who could create their own shot. IU has had one guard in 3 years capable of doing such at a high level. 

I hope you’re right. Tubelis was WAY better than Malik ever will be and could create and drive from the top of the key. If Malik tries to make any moves/drives from the top of the key, it’s almost always a turnover. I want to be wrong so bad. I really do, just having a hard time grasping having the same philosophy that didn’t do squat last year and made my eyes bleed.

[HoosierTrav]

5 hours ago, Papacap said:

Liam knew the portal haul IU would get so had to go elsewhere…….

This sounds like “she doesn’t like the big ones bc they hurt.”……. But yeah. You’re probably right. 

[HoosierHoopster]

2 hours ago, AH1971 said:

It’s not a completely different offensive system other than playing at a faster tempo. A more effective version sure, they had better guards. That’s obvious. 

It is though. Woodson plays through the post, we shoot from outside by volume at the bottom of DI ball. What remains to be seen is whether Woodson will wake up from 70s-80s basketball and emphasize outside shooting.

[AH1971]

28 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

It is though. Woodson plays through the post, we shoot from outside by volume at the bottom of DI ball. What remains to be seen is whether Woodson will wake up from 70s-80s basketball and emphasize outside shooting.

You act as if playing through the post is some archaic system. News flash, there are literally dozens among dozens of teams “who play through the post” that still emphasize shooting from the perimeter, namely the two teams who played for the national title game Monday night. Also that Arizona team with Tubelis and Ballo included.

 “Playing through the post” does not literally mean ball goes in and doesn’t come out, no matter how much you want to think it does. I’m not sure what you saw out of our back court this last season that would make you think taking MORE perimeter shots would have lead to a better outcome? The personnel simply did not exist with that fault laying at the feet of Woodson.

The new wave of guards the staff are coveting are of a completely different dynamic. Three level scorers of who can not only create for themselves but for others. I would expect the volume of perimeter shots to increase exponentially next year if we land our priority targets.