Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Staff gonna let Ballo leave campus without a commitment? Is he going to get the Ware treatment?


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The free throw shooting will drive us bonkers, but the offensive rebounding is something I’ve begged for.

I’m not totally sure where the shooting is coming from yet. Rice is iffy. As is Carlyle. MM should be able to fill it up, but the shooting is going to haunt me till the end.


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[Chris007]

5 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said:

Rice put up very similar stats to JHS in his only year at IU(don't recall where I saw the side by side comparison of the two kids).  Rice was worse for his 3pt shooting though between the two.  If Rice puts up the same numbers or slightly better and ups his 3pt % to say 35%ish it is fair to say he may only be in Indiana for one year depending how the season go.  

@realTomCrean told me that Rice plays PG and passes like Magic, shoots it like Steph, and plays defense like Gary Payton. I just put in for my final four tickets. I'm fixing a special BBq sauce for my crow, going to wash it down with some red wine, and just made a tee time for the weekend. Also just dug out my We're Back t-shirt and wearing it the rest of the night.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

The free throw shooting will drive us bonkers, but the offensive rebounding is something I’ve begged for.

I’m not totally sure where the shooting is coming from yet. Rice is iffy. As is Carlyle. MM should be able to fill it up, but the shooting is going to haunt me till the end.


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For reference. Ware had 63 offensive rebounds. Ballo had 128


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[IUFAN1976]

7 minutes ago, Adillac said:

Rice shot 27% from 3pt last year and avg 3.8 assists vs 2.6 TO....so that's actually worse than a healthy Xavier Johnson. We would be better off letting Gallo be point and getting in some actual shooters rather than a so-so point who can't shoot very well. IMO. 

He was a Freshman, I would expect his numbers would increase his sophomore year.  I could see his assists go up to at least 4 and his turnovers decrease to 2 while shooting at least 32% or higher from 3.  Would those numbers be satisfactory for a sophomore point guard?  I’m not say this is going to happen but most freshman players improve some during their sophomore year.

I could see us landing Rice, Carlyle, Hickman and either Ballo/Payne.

 

[realTomCrean]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

@realTomCrean told me that Rice plays PG and passes like Magic, shoots it like Steph, and plays defense like Gary Payton. I just put in for my final four tickets. I'm fixing a special BBq sauce for my crow, going to wash it down with some red wine, and just made a tee time for the weekend. Also just dug out my We're Back t-shirt and wearing it the rest of the night.

 

[Hardwood83]

2 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

The free throw shooting will drive us bonkers, but the offensive rebounding is something I’ve begged for.

I’m not totally sure where the shooting is coming from yet. Rice is iffy. As is Carlyle. MM should be able to fill it up, but the shooting is going to haunt me till the end.


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A line-up of Rice, Carlyle, Mbako, Reneau and Ballo would be 4 in 1 out. 

[dwtaylor1055]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

@realTomCrean told me that Rice plays PG and passes like Magic, shoots it like Steph, and plays defense like Gary Payton. I just put in for my final four tickets. I'm fixing a special BBq sauce for my crow, going to wash it down with some red wine, and just made a tee time for the weekend. Also just dug out my We're Back t-shirt and wearing it the rest of the night.

will Wilson be joining you for the red wine?  Or is he a beer guy only?  Will woody be joining your tee time?

[Chris007]

Just now, dwtaylor1055 said:

will Wilson be joining you for the red wine?  Or is he a beer guy only?  Will woody be joining your tee time?

If Woody gets Rice he can take the rest of the weekend off. Kenyon and Rosebud can handle the rest of the visits for the weekend. We're golfing

[WayneFleekHoosier]

If Woody gets Rice he can take the rest of the weekend off. Kenyon and Rosebud can handle the rest of the visits for the weekend. We're golfing

Lol.


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[Adillac]

14 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

That was my inital thought too. Some responded that he's more than the sum of his stats. Was Pac12 Freshman of the year, so there is that. 

We are handing out hundreds of thousands of dollars to players and I'd just hope we would try for someone who shoots better than 27% from 3pt, seeing as how we were essentially the worst 3pt shooting team in the country last year. But then again, Woody is our coach so it shouldn't be surprising. 

[rcbowla]

4 minutes ago, Schreckbagger said:

I think you've touched a nerve...... .

Do it again.....please.

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More like struck a massive eyebrow raise and inquires of what in the actual hell he was talking about. There's no crow in the vicinity that need be eaten at this point.

[dwtaylor1055]

Just now, Adillac said:

We are handing out hundreds of thousands of dollars to players and I'd just hope we would try for someone who shoots better than 27% from 3pt, seeing as how we were essentially the worst 3pt shooting team in the country last year. But then again, Woody is our coach so it shouldn't be surprising. 

maybe woody uses his magic and beats par on the green more than 27% of the time

[Hardwood83]

5 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

He was a Freshman, I would expect his numbers would increase his sophomore year.  I could see his assists go up to at least 4 and his turnovers decrease to 2 while shooting at least 32% or higher from 3.  Would those numbers be satisfactory for a sophomore point guard?  I’m not say this is going to happen but most freshman players improve some during their sophomore year.

I could see us landing Rice, Carlyle, Hickman and either Ballo/Payne.

 

We're all just speculating, doesn't cost anything. I'm not that excited about Rice & Carlyle, but others seem to be. I will be a little surprised if IU signs 3 incoming guards though. That would be 7 on the roster (3 new, Galloway, Cupps, Newton & Leal.) Could be a good thing though, depending who they are. 

Ballo is definitely a presence....but man his game is ugly and that FT shooting will give me an ulcer. 

[dwtaylor1055]

[IUFAN1976]

1 minute ago, dwtaylor1055 said:

That’s a new update!  On3 has Caryle at 96% too

[Silat Player]

12 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

He was a Freshman, I would expect his numbers would increase his sophomore year.  I could see his assists go up to at least 4 and his turnovers decrease to 2 while shooting at least 32% or higher from 3.  Would those numbers be satisfactory for a sophomore point guard?  I’m not say this is going to happen but most freshman players improve some during their sophomore year.

I could see us landing Rice, Carlyle, Hickman and either Ballo/Payne.

 

I guess a fair question to ask would be, "Will his numbers improve the 'typical' amount for a Sophomore when changing from one team to another?"

Sure. You typically see the most growth in most players from Frosh to Soph years due to them getting used to the speed of the college game, strength of the players, hitting the weight room themselves, etc... But, also part of that is also getting acclimated to the off/def system of the college team that they're on. 

Changing teams/coaches might affect that. I'm not sure that a Soph Rice should be expected to see such a large jump in his shooting percentage, especially early in the season. 

Need to hold back some of that sweet sweet money for more shooters...

[dwtaylor1055]

Did we just get a commitment before an actual visit?

[realTomCrean]

9 minutes ago, rcbowla said:

More like struck a massive eyebrow raise and inquires of what in the actual hell he was talking about. There's no crow in the vicinity that need be eaten at this point.

Sir appreciate the commentary but as @Alford Bailey and @Chris007 have said this is the Portal w/ IU interest thread. It is not the analyze realTomCrean thread. I suggest you move forums with your reply. 

[Chris007]

1 minute ago, Silat Player said:

I guess a fair question to ask would be, "Will his numbers improve the 'typical' amount for a Sophomore when changing from one team to another?"

Sure. You typically see the most growth in most players from Frosh to Soph years due to them getting used to the speed of the college game, strength of the players, hitting the weight room themselves, etc... But, also part of that is also getting acclimated to the off/def system of the college team that they're on. 

Changing teams/coaches might affect that. I'm not sure that a Soph Rice should be expected to see such a large jump in his shooting percentage, especially early in the season. 

Need to hold back some of that sweet sweet money for more shooters...

Also would add how will his numbers change when changing conferences. I don't follow the Pac-12 much but I tend to believe the defense is a little better in the BT

[Silat Player]

Just now, Chris007 said:

Also would add how will his numbers change when changing conferences. I don't follow the Pac-12 much but I tend to believe the defense is a little better in the BT

 

Just now, Chris007 said:

Also would add how will his numbers change when changing conferences. I don't follow the Pac-12 much but I tend to believe the defense is a little better in the BT

The play is definitely more rugged in the B1G. No question about that.