Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[Hardwood83 4,774]

I'm a little concerned about his shooting and maybe his health, but he's on the team now, so I wish him the greatest success. Ultimately the only stat I care about is W/L and I think he can help that. I will feel MUCH better if he is playing with an above average to very good shooter in the backcourt though. We know what Trey can do, need someone with a skillset that makes up for his weaknesses, IMO. I don't think Carlyle does that, so hope he finds another home. 

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9 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

WE NEED SHOOTERS

we were one of the worst 3 point shooting teams in all of college basketball - that neeeds to be addressed and neither additions thus far changes that. That’s it, that’s the point. Maybe you think we can win big being one of the worst 3 point shooting teams in college basketball but stats/history says otherwise

We still have 5 spots to fill. We also needed a dynamic PG. I hoped we could get both in one player. First 2/3 of his season he fit that. Definitely need more of that than the last 1/3 but he is a huge upgrade and is young. Remember when some hoops guy said after we lost boogie we could probably get someone similar with experience in the portal. Rice kind of fits that 

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Offensive execution and system makes shooting percentages go up or down regardless of player.  

[Hornsby 2,142]

In theory, recruiting portal players with more than a single year of eligibility is a good thing but in the current environment every kid on your roster is technically nothing but a 1-year rental.  I hate it but that's what it's become.

That's the issue once they allowed unlimited transfers. Look at kriisa goes from Arizona to West Virginia to the portal again.


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[Hardwood83 4,774]

10 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

That's the issue once they allowed unlimited transfers. Look at kriisa goes from Arizona to West Virginia to the portal again.


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What happened to the 'one free transfer' limitation? I've lost track.

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I think (and am hoping) with Trey, Cupps, and X as the primary ball handlers last season, the shooters weren’t put in good spots and the passes were often at the feet or over the head.  If we get a true point guard the numbers can improve across the board with better ball movement.

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What happened to the 'one free transfer' limitation? I've lost track.

I guess that only lasted a year or so Now I guess it's every year if you want.  Covid years I am lost.

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15 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

I guess that only lasted a year or so Now I guess it's every year if you want.  Covid years I am lost.

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It’s a crazy, mixed up system.

At least the Covid year thing goes away after this year. Hopefully the unlimited free agency will someday soon.

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It’s a crazy, mixed up system.
At least the Covid year thing goes away after this year. Hopefully the unlimited free agency will someday soon.

Yep. It's really a worse deal for teams with not much money. They can develop a guy only to see him leave cause they can't pay him enough. Minnesota just lost a guy to nebraska cause they could only pay 100k I read. Nebraska paid 200k to get him.I don't think minnesota has much nil money



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19 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Yep. It's really a worse deal for teams with not much money. They can develop a guy only to see him leave cause they can't pay him enough. Minnesota just lost a guy to nebraska cause they could only pay 100k I read. Nebraska paid 200k to get him.I don't think minnesota has much nil money



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At this point Minnesota seems to just try to reload with players from low to mid majors.  They've been able to keep Dawson Garcia in the fold but little else.  But it does seems like even if they develop talent, that talent then transfers out.

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At this point Minnesota seems to just try to reload with players from low to mid majors.  They've been able to keep Dawson Garcia in the fold but little else.  But it does seems like even if they develop talent, that talent then transfers out.

Yep though I think in garcias case alot had to do with family. I think he had some family deaths and why he moved back to minn originally. Maybe why he stayed not maybe about money totally. But they did expect to be pretty good next year then lost like four guys to the portal. No idea what they could pay Garcia though.

 

I just found this even their football team which is pretty good seems to not have the nil they need.

 

PJ Fleck warns Gophers will lose players without more NIL money

 

"So, if want to keep players. All these guys we have, they won't be here ne

 

 

 

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[IU - Kaulie 1,891]

8 hours ago, AH1971 said:

Leal/Cupps/Galloway/Johnson combined made 60 3 pointers last year. Will wager $100 to the charity of your choice that Rice hits at least 50. Rice scored more points than Galloway and Cupps combined last year playing in an offense that ranked 322nd in tempo. Galloway and Cupps started 75% of our conference games.

Carlyle + Rice gives us two guards who can SCORE which is the name of the game from all three levels of the court. 

You in?

I like Rice and Carlyle individually, and like you said they both can score and both like to get to the rim but you have to have spacing to make that work.  Ballo clogging the paint with MR doesn’t do that unless Malik improves a lot away from the basket which is possible.

If we are going Rice and Carlyle that’s fine but I don’t want Ballo.  MR needs to play the 5 and you add a shooter like Humrichous.  Rebounding will be a concern but I think we could get around it.

Ballo sounds like he is coming so I would strongly prefer Conwell as Rice’s running mate.  Conwell provides a lot on both ends that doesn’t get talked about enough.  If not Conwell, go hard after Hickman.

We need shooters.  If Ballo is coming we need even more shooters.  My personal preference is Rice, Conwell, Mgbako, Humrichous, and MR.  It sure sounds like it’s going to be Rice, Carlyle, Mgbako, MR, and Ballo.  I don’t love it, and we have to hope Rice and Carlyle up their percentages and MR can play more away from the basket because Ballo isn’t Ware and he will clog the paint and spacing is going to be an issue with explosive driving guards.  It’s a lot to ask for.  I like the players being talked about individually, but it has to work as a team.  None of the above names are coming here to come off the bench so you have to prioritize.  Right now, as it currently stands, there are two starting positions that are open.
 

Not going HARD after Conwell is a mistake, unless he has let it be known he isn’t interested.

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1 minute ago, IU - Kaulie said:

I like Rice and Carlyle individually, and like you said they both can score and both like to get to the rim but you have to have spacing to make that work.  Ballo clogging the paint with MR doesn’t do that unless Malik improves a lot away from the basket which is possible.

If we are going Rice and Carlyle that’s fine but I don’t want Ballo.  MR needs to play the 5 and you add a shooter like Humrichous.  Rebounding will be a concern but I think we could get around it.

Ballo sounds like he is coming so I would strongly prefer Conwell as Rice’s running mate.  Conwell provides a lot on both ends that doesn’t get talked about enough.  If not Conwell, go hard after Hickman.

We need shooters.  If Ballo is coming we need even more shooters.  My personal preference is Rice, Conwell, Mgbako, Humrichous, and MR.  It sure sounds like it’s going to be Rice, Carlyle, Mgbako, MR, and Ballo.  I don’t love it, and we have to hope Rice and Carlyle up their percentages and MR can play more away from the basket because Ballo isn’t Ware and he will clog the paint and spacing is going to be an issue with explosive driving guards.  It’s a lot to ask for.  I like the players being talked about individually but it has to work as a team.  
 

Not going HARD after Conwell is a mistake, unless he has let it be known he isn’t interested.

I agree with everything you said. I will say, I believe they are going hard after conwell. A visit is likely and they are trying to schedule it. He is also my top choice, but the way things have played out might make him tough to get despite the mutual interest. 

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5 minutes ago, IUc2016 said:

I agree with everything you said. I will say, I believe they are going hard after conwell. A visit is likely and they are trying to schedule it. He is also my top choice, but the way things have played out might make him tough to get despite the mutual interest. 

He is definitely my top choice.  I love Rice and super excited to get him.  If Carlyle wants to come too that’s awesome, but Conwell is the bigger play here.  Conwell is the big fish.  I can’t see anyone like Carlyle, Hickman, or Humrichous coming here to play off the bench but would be obviously ecstatic if that were somehow to happen.  I just don’t see it, plus you factor in Gallo who is playing HEAVY minutes starting or not.

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24 minutes ago, IU - Kaulie said:

He is definitely my top choice.  I love Rice and super excited to get him.  If Carlyle wants to come too that’s awesome, but Conwell is the bigger play here.  Conwell is the big fish.  I can’t see anyone like Carlyle, Hickman, or Humrichous coming here to play off the bench but would be obviously ecstatic if that were somehow to happen.  I just don’t see it, plus you factor in Gallo who is playing HEAVY minutes starting or not.

I think if we get conwell and any of the other three we are in great shape and expectations will be as high as ever, rightfully so

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Hulls, Hunter, Wash and Adam Howard follow Conwell via Instagram - interesting that no current player or recent past player(JHS/Ware/etc) follow Conwell. Very different from the others. 

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1 hour ago, IU - Kaulie said:

I like Rice and Carlyle individually, and like you said they both can score and both like to get to the rim but you have to have spacing to make that work.  Ballo clogging the paint with MR doesn’t do that unless Malik improves a lot away from the basket which is possible.

If we are going Rice and Carlyle that’s fine but I don’t want Ballo.  MR needs to play the 5 and you add a shooter like Humrichous.  Rebounding will be a concern but I think we could get around it.

Ballo sounds like he is coming so I would strongly prefer Conwell as Rice’s running mate.  Conwell provides a lot on both ends that doesn’t get talked about enough.  If not Conwell, go hard after Hickman.

We need shooters.  If Ballo is coming we need even more shooters.  My personal preference is Rice, Conwell, Mgbako, Humrichous, and MR.  It sure sounds like it’s going to be Rice, Carlyle, Mgbako, MR, and Ballo.  I don’t love it, and we have to hope Rice and Carlyle up their percentages and MR can play more away from the basket because Ballo isn’t Ware and he will clog the paint and spacing is going to be an issue with explosive driving guards.  It’s a lot to ask for.  I like the players being talked about individually, but it has to work as a team.  None of the above names are coming here to come off the bench so you have to prioritize.  Right now, as it currently stands, there are two starting positions that are open.
 

Not going HARD after Conwell is a mistake, unless he has let it be known he isn’t interested.

Another great analysis, always good. The BOLD is Mike Woodson's type of team and IMO that is what is going to happen. I like what UCONN, FAU or ISU run on offense. All agree that 3's are worth more than 2s. Yet I cannot wrap my brain around MR as a 5. When I try, I see him double teamed and unable to pass the ball out or won't pass the ball out, thus forcing shots. I don't see MR as a rim protector and if IU doesn't improve on defense they will need one. It was said by an NBA scout and relayed in a broadcast, the reason MR doesn't rebound well, he has small hands. So I KNOW IU needs shooters and I would love some as much as everyone else ... but it looks like Mike Woodson is going to sign Mike Woodson type players to run Mike Woodson's offense.

I don't see Conwell brought up much in social media but saw the post above where coaches are following him but not the players on Instagram. Sadly that process with Instagram seems to be pretty accurate on who is going where.

Who knows maybe the staff and Mike thinks they can improve the shooting of the players coming in like they have thought in the past. Maybe the staff does not agree with the forum's non-true fans, and they don't have a shooters problem "we only have to hit shots" as Woodson reminded me plenty of times last season.

Prepare for next year. Mike Woodson's offense (because nothing is wrong in his mind) and those of soon to be Michigan, UCONN and ISU as only wishful thinking.

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1 hour ago, IU - Kaulie said:

He is definitely my top choice.  I love Rice and super excited to get him.  If Carlyle wants to come too that’s awesome, but Conwell is the bigger play here.  Conwell is the big fish.  I can’t see anyone like Carlyle, Hickman, or Humrichous coming here to play off the bench but would be obviously ecstatic if that were somehow to happen.  I just don’t see it, plus you factor in Gallo who is playing HEAVY minutes starting or not.

Why's Conwell the bigger fish then KC?

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Did the Pharrell Payne visit happen?

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Just now, Go_Hoosiers said:

Did the Pharrell Payne visit happen?

I've seen nothing about his visit. I didn't see anything about Rice yesterday until his "committed" announcement. Maybe that is why there are crickets around the Payne visit.