Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[RaceToTheTop]

1 hour ago, Feathery said:

Revenue share will be here within 5 years I’d guess. That’s the reoccurring. But let’s be honest, the Cooks are worth $6 billion. Even a modest return on say half that would be $300 million a year. Donating $5-6 mil a year is very easily done. That goes for any of the billionaire donors. 
 

I know Michigan has looked to set up a fund for NIL. Where they get big donations and then pay the players through the returns on the investments and never touching the principle. They haven’t done it yet but there has been talk of it. I think lack of clarity on revenue sharing and what NIL looks like after is holding it up. 

Quite likely that in the future the mid major or low major that 'comes out of nowhere' and starts to become a potential power will be one with the most big money donors.  I think Grand Canyon fits that bill.  They could be become the next Gonzaga.

[RaceToTheTop]

21 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I'm hearing that Hickman's NIL offer was much bigger than he expected. The deal is not done yet since he is at Cincy today, but things look good. 

Your thoughts on what that would do with Carlyle?  That is, is the trio of Rice/Hickman/Carlyle coming in a possibliity?

I know that many on here really want Conwell (i do as well) but I don't think realistically from Conwell's viewpoint that it makes sense to come into a situation that already has two guards coming in plus another who led the time in minutes the previous year.

[RaceToTheTop]

20 minutes ago, Feathery said:

And I guess I don’t see the downside if donors don’t get the expectations met? 

I believe that Trilly Donovan might have been the one that mentioned it, but the downside is that if the money donated doesn't pan out to winning on the court, some donors are now asking for input into the recruiting process.

[Jam]

I don’t get it with Conwell. He seems to have time to schedule multiple other visits

[Chris007]

Just now, RaceToTheTop said:

Your thoughts on what that would do with Carlyle?  That is, is the trio of Rice/Hickman/Carlyle coming in a possibliity?

I know that many on here really want Conwell (i do as well) but I don't think realistically from Conwell's viewpoint that it makes sense to come into a situation that already has two guards coming in plus another who led the time in minutes the previous year.

I'm surprised that Hickman would want to compete with Carlyle and Galloway so I don't think Conwell will want to compete with Hickman, Carlyle and Galloway

[dwtaylor1055]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

I'm surprised that Hickman would want to compete with Carlyle and Galloway so I don't think Conwell will want to compete with Hickman, Carlyle and Galloway

so we are likely looking at either Hickman or Carlyle in your opinion?

[Chris007]

1 minute ago, dwtaylor1055 said:

so we are likely looking at either Hickman or Carlyle in your opinion?

No I think we're getting both but not Conwell

[dwtaylor1055]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

No I think we're getting both but not Conwell

ohh interesting.  

[CSP]

5 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

I believe that Trilly Donovan might have been the one that mentioned it, but the downside is that if the money donated doesn't pan out to winning on the court, some donors are now asking for input into the recruiting process.

I would too, if I were them. 

[68Hoosier]

5 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

No I think we're getting both but not Conwell

I would be good with that.  

[Demo]

8 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Your thoughts on what that would do with Carlyle?  That is, is the trio of Rice/Hickman/Carlyle coming in a possibliity?

I know that many on here really want Conwell (i do as well) but I don't think realistically from Conwell's viewpoint that it makes sense to come into a situation that already has two guards coming in plus another who led the time in minutes the previous year.

You’re currently on 5 scholarship guards. I just can’t imagine that Carlyle/Conwell/Hickman isn’t a 1 of situation. Some systems would justify 7 guards. What Woody’s doing with Mgbako on the wing and Tucker getting wing minutes  doesn’t.

[Feathery]

16 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

I believe that Trilly Donovan might have been the one that mentioned it, but the downside is that if the money donated doesn't pan out to winning on the court, some donors are now asking for input into the recruiting process.

Welcome to SEC football. lol

[AKHoosier]

16 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

I believe that Trilly Donovan might have been the one that mentioned it, but the downside is that if the money donated doesn't pan out to winning on the court, some donors are now asking for input into the recruiting process.

I've always wondered about this.

If I was a multimillionaire being asked to give to NIL, no way would I not want to decide who the money goes to.

But that's just me.

[RaceToTheTop]

10 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I'm surprised that Hickman would want to compete with Carlyle and Galloway so I don't think Conwell will want to compete with Hickman, Carlyle and Galloway

Hickman might have some self awareness -- he's a good college player but not an NBA player.  Some guys chase the dream being G league fodder for years on a $40K to $50K salary not realizing that being a good college player isn't always relevant to what the NBA wants.  Others chase their dreams overseas for years.

The draw for a kid like Hickman of playing in his hometown, getting paid really nicely to do so, and knowing that a backcourt foursome of Rice-Carlyle-Galloway-Hickman is a really solid college backcourt and should lead to wins could be very appealing.  I don't begrudge players getting paid even if they play less minutes.

[CSP]

8 minutes ago, Demo said:

You’re currently on 5 scholarship guards. I just can’t imagine that Carlyle/Conwell/Hickman isn’t a 1 of situation. Some systems would justify 7 guards. What Woody’s doing with Mgbako on the wing and Tucker getting wing minutes  doesn’t.

I think the way things stand now/along with who we've contacted--- it seems like they expect MM to play a fair amount of 4. 

I think you can add 2 of the 3. Leal and Cupps shouldn't be looked at as "in the rotation", IMO, anyways. They are great 9th-11th guys ish, IMO. 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

21 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

I believe that Trilly Donovan might have been the one that mentioned it, but the downside is that if the money donated doesn't pan out to winning on the court, some donors are now asking for input into the recruiting process.

That would be the inevitable next step and could end up pushing more long term veteran coaches out of the business.

[AH1971]

3 minutes ago, btownqb said:

I think the way things stand now/along with who we've contacted--- it seems like they expect MM to play a fair amount of 4. 

I think you can add 2 of the 3. Leal and Cupps shouldn't be looked at as "in the rotation", IMO, anyways. They are great 9th-11th guys ish, IMO. 

Yeah I would agree. If you get Ballo, Payne and Williams are off the table in my opinion. You could possibly take the NAIA kid for an insurance policy, but Reneau and Ballo playing a bulk of the minutes at the 5 allows you to slide Mgbako to the 4 and play a heavy 3 guard lineup. And unless they do add someone like Humrichous I would expect Mgbako to get his fair share of minutes at the 4.

[Demo]

1 minute ago, btownqb said:

I think the way things stand now/along with who we've contacted--- it seems like they expect MM to play a fair amount of 4. 

I think you can add 2 of the 3. Leal and Cupps shouldn't be looked at as "in the rotation", IMO, anyways. They are great 9th-11th guys ish, IMO. 

If they plan to do that with Mgbako, then there’s probably an argument there. And what the roster looks like when they get to maybe 11 filled scholarships will probably tip that off. Maybe it’s just because Woody was so hellbent on not matching up that way last year, I just have trouble seeing it.

[Bowhunter]

Why not  one of the Uk transfers or recruits? If we have the money, let’s get shooters and athletic bigs.

[OKHOOSIER]

4 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I'm hearing that Hickman's NIL offer was much bigger than he expected. The deal is not done yet since he is at Cincy today, but things look good. 

Would it be with the understanding hed be off the bench?