Transfer Portal Scrapes w/IU Interest

[Unexpectedflash]

5 minutes ago, str8baller said:

An equally plausible explanation is that Devries was the one who assembled it. And he’s not this time.

 

Which is fine, because he can focus on coaching and doesn’t need to be coach and GM. Outside of a few guys like May, Scheyer and Pitino it is probably better off for most schools that way. 

All three of your examples have GMs by the way. That’s the future of the game now 

[IU Prof]

31 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

Gimme Rancik, Hall, and Budd Clark and call it a portal season.

Actually, add one break glass in case of emergency big to that, and call it an off-season.

[Home Jersey]

Just now, str8baller said:

An equally plausible explanation is that Devries was the one who assembled it. And he’s not this time.

Which is fine, because he can focus on coaching and doesn’t need to be coach and GM. Outside of a few guys like May, Scheyer and Pitino it is probably better off for most schools that way. 

Mostly agree, but the HC is accountable for assembling the roster at the end of the day, all due credit to Carr (and he deserves a ton of credit for the obviously improved approach). 

I think it's a lot to ask for a mostly 2-man operation at a new school to assemble a great roster from scratch in a short period of time in a hyper competitive market. We agree he shouldn't have put himself in that situation.

Luckily looks like this is mostly water under the bridge assuming the portal class shapes up close to how it seems it will. And you are right, probably best for him to focus on coaching. 

I'd like to see us with our first sub-10 loss season in 11 years. 

[Hoosierinbham]

6 minutes ago, str8baller said:

An equally plausible explanation is that Devries was the one who assembled it. And he’s not this time.

 

Which is fine, because he can focus on coaching and doesn’t need to be coach and GM. Outside of a few guys like May, Scheyer and Pitino it is probably better off for most schools that way. 

I believe May and Scheyer both have GMs.  May has Kyle Church and Scheyer has Rachel Baker.

[Unexpectedflash]

Just now, Hoosierinbham said:

I believe May and Scheyer both have GMs.  May has Kyle Church and Scheyer has Rachel Baker.

Our dear friend tom ostrom is the new St. John’s GM also

[Chris007]

33 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

Gimme Rancik, Hall, and Budd Clark and call it a portal season.

I do think Bud has been talked about. At least come visit to see family. 

[IvanRenkosillegitimatechild]

2 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Mostly agree, but the HC is accountable for assembling the roster at the end of the day, all due credit to Carr (and he deserves a ton of credit for the obviously improved approach). 

I think it's a lot to ask for a mostly 2-man operation at a new school to assemble a great roster from scratch in a short period of time in a hyper competitive market. We agree he shouldn't have put himself in that situation.

Luckily looks like this is mostly water under the bridge assuming the portal class shapes up close to how it seems it will. And you are right, probably best for him to focus on coaching. 

I'd like to see us with our first sub-10 loss season in 11 years. 

Also I think his staff would’ve been assembled quicker then the two guys he thought he had as assistants backed out which I think put him behind on not only assembling a staff but then he had to adjust who he was targeting in the portal because I’m sure he was going after players attached to those assistants 

[Home Jersey]

3 minutes ago, IvanRenkosillegitimatechild said:

Also I think his staff would’ve been assembled quicker then the two guys he thought he had as assistants backed out which I think put him behind on not only assembling a staff but then he had to adjust who he was targeting in the portal because I’m sure he was going after players attached to those assistants 

I'd qualify this as "excuse making" ... not sure what went on with those guys, but he probably should've been prepared with readily available back up options and, in the first place, not be misinformed about those two guys plans. Because of that mistake, building the roster was much more challenging than it had to be. 

Can't change the past, only learn from it. Looks like DDV and staff learned. IMO

[Hoosierfanyuh]

Tomorrow 

[IvanRenkosillegitimatechild]

9 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Tomorrow 

Why the delay a day you think?

[str8baller]

25 minutes ago, Unexpectedflash said:

All three of your examples have GMs by the way. That’s the future of the game now 

Agree that it is the future. 
 

Disagree about those guys though. They have GMs but overt authority. In other words the GM is just a guy who works for May.  I’m not sure that’s the case here with Carr and probably why someone like Carr would come.  
 

For fans of pro sports this has been like a 25 yr year saga of coaches wanting to do both roles, great coaches having the juice to become their own GMs, and then mostly failing. It’s why Jerry West left the Lakers. But by now almost everyone concedes it’s two distinct full time jobs at the pro level and even great coaches have little chance of exerting authority over the GM in matters of personnel.  
 

It was the future of the pros. It will likely be the same in college. I think IU is possibly ahead—way ahead—of the curve on this one. 

[tyappleg]

16 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Tomorrow 

Source?

[ebridges24]

29 minutes ago, Unexpectedflash said:

Our dear friend tom ostrom is the new St. John’s GM also

The Legend that is, Tom Ostrom

[Hoosierfanyuh]

2 minutes ago, tyappleg said:

Source?

Just 247 people haha 

[Hoosierfanyuh]

9 minutes ago, IvanRenkosillegitimatechild said:

Why the delay a day you think?

Best I’ve seen is just logistical stuff but he’s widely still expected to be a Hoosier 

[tyappleg]

2 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Just 247 people haha 

That's a lot of people saying it.  It must be true. 

[IU5355]

8 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Agree that it is the future. 
 

Disagree about those guys though. They have GMs but overt authority. In other words the GM is just a guy who works for May.  I’m not sure that’s the case here with Carr and probably why someone like Carr would come.  
 

For fans of pro sports this has been like a 25 yr year saga of coaches wanting to do both roles, great coaches having the juice to become their own GMs, and then mostly failing. It’s why Jerry West left the Lakers. But by now almost everyone concedes it’s two distinct full time jobs at the pro level and even great coaches have little chance of exerting authority over the GM in matters of personnel.  
 

It was the future of the pros. It will likely be the same in college. I think IU is possibly ahead—way ahead—of the curve on this one. 

Im not sure the current landscape of the GM position. But one would have to think that Carr has one of the best resumes and experiences for roster construction roles. 

[RoderickJaynes]

4 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Best I’ve seen is just logistical stuff but he’s widely still expected to be a Hoosier 

Graphic design team searching for usable highlights from last year that aren’t Lamar threes for the announcement video

[BA47591]

29 minutes ago, IvanRenkosillegitimatechild said:

Also I think his staff would’ve been assembled quicker then the two guys he thought he had as assistants backed out which I think put him behind on not only assembling a staff but then he had to adjust who he was targeting in the portal because I’m sure he was going after players attached to those assistants 

You're both right. He knew he was f'd 2 weeks into the job and got what he could. He did begin talks with GM Carr not long after that. So I have to respect him knowing he would need help with a level of talent he was unaccustomed to. Then he squeezed 9 conference wins out of that dumpster fire. That's the worst roster we've had since Jordan Hulls was a sophomore. 20 years? I appreciate the effort Tucker gave that last 5 games. He did all he could do. 

Sherrell, Reibe, Khamenia,  and a back-up point. I feel it. 

[HinnyHoosier]

It's finally nice to be the target of other programs' ire for once. 

Especially those bungholes.