They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[monskisprodigy]

I can tell you one thing....I Will Wade into some cold beverages tonight while watching my beloved Hoosiers.

Do we win? Crazier things have happened....

[Silat Player]

37 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Ehh disagree. IU falling further into irrelevancy with each passing year only adds to the desperation and increased noise. We want to try and replace the last 30 years overnight. It’s never going to happen. Better win and better win quick or you don’t have a prayer.

It’s a vicious cycle.

Dude. It just takes one coach. It's like Alabama football. Each coach isn't a slave to the history of the program. Everything is in place to be a monster, all IU needs is the right coach. 

You're so dramatic. LOL

[AH1971]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

My bad. Correction, he won during the Covid year. A Tom Allen level of glory.

Again, you don’t have the slightest clue as to what you’re talking about. He won the SEC during the 18-19 season, the year prior to the tournament being cancelled.

[Scotty R]

7 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Depends. There were no fire sampson threads in the first year. If it's a super underwhelming hire it's possible

 

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I was exaggerating some and trying to explain to AH that it wouldn't just be a thread if Brownell was hired. I assume if we hired Wade people would get upset early if he lost a few

[VFury]

Look, I'm sure to some people here 1987 wasn't that long ago. But for people like me, who have never seen much success for such a historic program, a guy like Wade would win at a rate not seen in a long time. Fact is that we are no different than where Houston was before they took a chance on a 2 time cheater like Sampson.

[AH1971]

1 minute ago, Silat Player said:

Dude. It just takes one coach. It's like Alabama football. Each coach isn't a slave to the history of the program. Everything is in place to be a monster, all IU needs is the right coach. 

You're so dramatic. LOL

Brad Brownell….You’re on the clock!

[Home Jersey]

Just now, AH1971 said:

Ehh disagree. IU falling further into irrelevancy with each passing year only adds to the desperation and increased noise. We want to try and replace the last 30 years overnight. It’s never going to happen. Better win and better win quick or you don’t have a prayer.

It’s a vicious cycle.

What exactly do you disagree with that I said? 

10 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

This one started in February of his 3rd year. Fact

People probably won't blindly offer uncritical support for anything and everything the next coach does. Assume we agree fans will likely be critical at times. I guess you're saying they will be hypercritical unreasonably early?  

Such is life and this is a message board for sharing opinions. Fact

And you know what they say about opinions... they're like butth0les... everyone's got one. Old adage

Like a snowflake, no two are exactly alike. Not really something to agree/disagree with...?

You're saying "its's never going to happen" ... yeah, we won't replace the last 30 years over night. Better win and win quick... yeah, that can happen. It's definitely possible in today's CBB landscape. Fan noise always exists at big programs. If it becomes excessive, it's probably because there are major issues. The fans will absolutely give the new coach the benefit of the doubt when they start. 

You mentioned an O/U of 2.5 seasons earlier before fans turn on them.

If you can't give fans a reason to be optimistic during the first 2.5 years, how can you argue they deserve more than the 4 years they always get at IU? If there is excessive noise for a calendar year, as there has been for Woody, it'll be because there are major issues. 

A vicious cycle? Not really... just crappy job of hiring/firing basketball coaches for the past quarter century. 

Make the right hire for the first time in a long time and the fanbase is a huge factor in waking up a sleeping giant. 

BTW, Purdue is about to unseat us and move into 10th place alone on the all time wins list tonight. 

Better win and better win quick is damn right, amigo. 

[Stuhoo]

3 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Again, you don’t have the slightest clue as to what you’re talking about. He won the SEC during the 18-19 season, the year prior to the tournament being cancelled.

I don’t have ESPN up on the screen. Are you saying that he had a great year early on at LSU and then faded and afterward got fired for scumbaggery?

That’s your guy? Cool.

Because while Brownell is NOT anyone’s first choice (that I’m reading) at least he’s a moderately successful coach who hasn’t been banished to McNeese St for misconduct.

[Silat Player]

1 minute ago, Home Jersey said:

What exactly do you disagree with that I said? 

You're saying "its's never going to happen" ... yeah, we won't replace the last 30 years over night. Better win and win quick... yeah, that can happen. It's definitely possible in today's CBB landscape. Fan noise always exists at big programs. If it becomes excessive, it's probably because there are major issues. The fans will absolutely give the new coach the benefit of the doubt when they start. 

You mentioned an O/U of 2.5 seasons earlier before fans turn on them.

If you can't give fans a reason to be optimistic during the first 2.5 years, how can you argue they deserve more than the 4 years they always get at IU? If there is excessive noise for a calendar year, as there has been for Woody, it'll be because there are major issues. 

A vicious cycle? Not really... just crappy job of hiring/firing basketball coaches for the past quarter century. 

Make the right hire for the first time in a long time and the fanbase is a huge factor in waking up a sleeping giant. 

BTW, Purdue is about to unseat us and move into 10th place alone on the all time wins list tonight. 

Better win and better win quick is damn right, amigo. 

All of this negatively is so weird. There's never been a better time in college basketball for a big-time program to be struggling. With NIL and all of the money and the transfer portal, the ability of a good coach to flip a program quickly has never been easier. 

We're in the halycon days of stopping the suckage...LOL

[Scotty R]

3 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Brad Brownell….You’re on the clock!

Who in the hell said they want to hire Brownell or he is in top of their list. Do I want him to be our choice no but I would take him over Wade any day of the week.

[AH1971]

2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I don’t have ESPN up on the screen. Are you saying that he had a great year early on at LSU and then faded and afterward got fired for scumbaggery?

That’s your guy? Cool.

He went 18-15 year 1, won the SEC the following year and finished 2nd and 3rd the next two years. 
 

Quite praising Brownell just to spite Wade lol.

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

I guess the post about attacking other Posters was ignored

[Silat Player]

1 minute ago, Scotty R said:

Who in the hell said they want to hire Brownell or he is in top of their list. Do I want him to be our choice no but I would take him over Wade any day of the week.

Shhhhh....he's on a roll. Let him go. 

There's never been a single insider who has listed Brownell as a possible candidate (or Wade for that matter), but here we are...

[AH1971]

1 minute ago, Scotty R said:

Who in the hell said they want to hire Brownell or he is in top of their list. Do I want him to be our choice no but I would take him over Wade any day of the week.

And you’d be firing off emails before he landed his first recruit.

[wirenuts]

I didn't have let's look at will wade as a realistic candidate for the last 15 pages on my fire Woodson bingo card. 

Would he do well? Probably. 

Would IU hire him? Nope

[coonhounds]

You guys let's morons take up to much of your time imo. Same as true with me wasting my time watching iu with a woodson running the show! Maybe things will be different tonight

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[WayneFleekHoosier]

Lol. Wade and Brownell won’t be candidates. There, that’s that. This has been going on for hours.




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[AH1971]

6 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

What exactly do you disagree with that I said? 

You're saying "its's never going to happen" ... yeah, we won't replace the last 30 years over night. Better win and win quick... yeah, that can happen. It's definitely possible in today's CBB landscape. Fan noise always exists at big programs. If it becomes excessive, it's probably because there are major issues. The fans will absolutely give the new coach the benefit of the doubt when they start. 

You mentioned an O/U of 2.5 seasons earlier before fans turn on them.

If you can't give fans a reason to be optimistic during the first 2.5 years, how can you argue they deserve more than the 4 years they always get at IU? If there is excessive noise for a calendar year, as there has been for Woody, it'll be because there are major issues. 

A vicious cycle? Not really... just crappy job of hiring/firing basketball coaches for the past quarter century. 

Make the right hire for the first time in a long time and the fanbase is a huge factor in waking up a sleeping giant. 

BTW, Purdue is about to unseat us and move into 10th place alone on the all time wins list tonight. 

Better win and better win quick is damn right, amigo. 

Of course you can win big overnight, but that shouldn’t be the expectation or even the #1 priority year 1. Getting a guy in here who can establish a culture and identify 9-10 guys who all fit that culture should be the #1 priority. And then build from there. If it results in 15 wins, so be it. But we can’t or won’t accept that it make take 2 maybe 3 seasons until the old culture is completely overhauled. 
 

I know what we’ve done the last 25 or so years and it’s never worked. 

[IUHAHN81]

Can't wait til we hire Brad and we can start the "Extend Brad Stevens" thread instead of a "Fire some random guy" thread again! 

[OKHOOSIER]

1 minute ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Lol. Wade and Brownell won’t be candidates. There, that’s that. This has been going on for hours.




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To paraphrase/plagiarize Hova from the other day, we are getting into SEC levels of hypothetical coaches and their hypothetical success as HC of IU lol