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Curious if the people who think he will be back next year have been to a game in Assembly Hall this year?  There is more to it than wins and losses.  The program has no juice right now. I would hope that Dolson sees this with his own eyes and regardless of if IU makes a 68 field tournament they move on because it’s definitely in the best interest of the program.   When my wife and kids  are  pointing out that there is a different feel in the building you know the program is in a bad spot.   Curious if others that go frequently feel the same bad vibes that I felt last night 

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First, you guys are hilarious. Reading the pages I missed on a long travel day is great.  I guess I missed the chance to drop the bomb that coaches were informed yesterday that Woody is being ret

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First thing's first, congrats to the IU women on the 4-seed and hosting opportunity. Tough draw, but they call it madness for a reason. Secondly, love you guys and this community, but goodness you're

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The “compromise” by Dolson to let this go down this way saved us some good cash on the buyout. Lot of litigation today. Make no mistake about it, this was not Woody’s decision to retire. 

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6 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Curious if the people who think he will be back next year have been to a game in Assembly Hall this year?  There is more to it than wins and losses.  The program has no juice right now. I would hope that Dolson sees this with his own eyes and regardless of if IU makes a 68 field tournament they move on because it’s definitely in the best interest of the program.   When my wife and kids  are  pointing out that there is a different feel in the building you know the program is in a bad spot.   Curious if others that go frequently feel the same bad vibes that I felt last night 

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12 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Curious if the people who think he will be back next year have been to a game in Assembly Hall this year?  There is more to it than wins and losses.  The program has no juice right now. I would hope that Dolson sees this with his own eyes and regardless of if IU makes a 68 field tournament they move on because it’s definitely in the best interest of the program.   When my wife and kids  are  pointing out that there is a different feel in the building you know the program is in a bad spot.   Curious if others that go frequently feel the same bad vibes that I felt last night 

I would hope Dolson assesses the performance of both the team and coach at the conclusion of the season rather than a sect of the "fan" base who would rather cut off their noses to spite their face because they started dancing on Woodson's grave before Thanksgiving. 

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2 minutes ago, hper50 said:

The idea making the tournament being the determining factor of Woody's job status shows how far we've fallen. Texas fired Shaka after earning a 3 seed in the NCAAT. 

Texas didn't fire anyone, Shaka left on his own accord for greener pastures. 

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9 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Curious if the people who think he will be back next year have been to a game in Assembly Hall this year?  There is more to it than wins and losses.  The program has no juice right now. I would hope that Dolson sees this with his own eyes and regardless of if IU makes a 68 field tournament they move on because it’s definitely in the best interest of the program.   When my wife and kids  are  pointing out that there is a different feel in the building you know the program is in a bad spot.   Curious if others that go frequently feel the same bad vibes that I felt last night 

Calbert is giving us tickets for Michigan and UCLA and I'm curious to see what the vibe will be for those games. I'm sure a lot will depend on how we play between now and then. 

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2 minutes ago, hper50 said:

Ok, he was never "officially" fired.... but would've been if he didn't depart

He walked away from a $7mil buyout. He wasn't getting fired despite all the pleas from the fan base.

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He walked away from a $7mil buyout. He wasn't getting fired despite all the pleas from the fan base.

Are you sure there wasn't a settlement behind the scenes?

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4 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

I would hope Dolson assess the performance of both the team and coach at the conclusion of the season rather than a sect of the "fan" base who would rather cut off their noses to spite their face because they started dancing on Woodson's grave before Thanksgiving. 

The crowds at AH are not a "sect."  They're very large sample sizes that accurately reflect the state of broader fanbase.  You may not like how the broader fanbase feels, but it is what it is.

I would guess Scott notices the atmosphere at AH is poor, but he's probably looking at concrete numbers like declining attendance and declining revenue/donations related to bball.

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I went to the Indy Classic (TAMU-Purdue and Butler-Wisconsin) and couldn't fathom how LOUD the Purdoo crowd was from start to finish. We used to dwarf their crowd at the Crossroads Classic. And I can't believe how far away we are from that.

Obviously, the fanbase could be turned out quickly (see: Cignetti), but man. We are not close right now.

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6 years 0 ncaa tourney wins.  Some coaches might see the writing on the wall and get out before they have a chance to get fired.  Very smart move by Smart to bail before he could get fired.   Losing as a 3 seed to Abilene Christian would have probably would have been the nail in the coffin.    Great move by him.   Just like good move by Enfield to leave USC for SMU this past cycle 

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The crowds at AH are not a "sect."  They're very large sample sizes that accurately reflect the state of broader fanbase.  You may not like how the broader fanbase feels, but it is what it is.

I would guess Scott notices the atmosphere at AH is poor, but he's probably looking at concrete numbers like declining attendance and declining revenue/donations related to bball.

Our friend AH can’t accept he has a minority opinion and others may have a valid POV lol

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The most easily impressed people are the loudest. Beat 2 cruddy B10 teams and a half decent PSU and all of a sudden IUBB and Mike Woodson are back from the dead because the kids aren’t standing around being lackadaisical the entire game anymore. Will Illinois drum us by 20+ in the Hall? Probably. According to some, we should just accept Woodson is as good as IU can ever do in basketball.

Fire this clown when the seasons over lol

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20 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

I would hope Dolson assesses the performance of both the team and coach at the conclusion of the season rather than a sect of the "fan" base who would rather cut off their noses to spite their face because they started dancing on Woodson's grave before Thanksgiving. 

^^I would hope so too^^

I would also hope, and fully expect, that Dolson is constantly assessing the performance of the coach both on and off the court, the trajectory of the program, the recruiting projections, the excitement of the fanbase, , the potential to achieve and sustain very high levels of success, and the flow of money from boosters... on a constant basis, including at the conclusion of the season.

Upon doing so, absent a top tier B1G finish and a Sweet 16, or a mid-tier B1G finish and a Final Four, I am confident that this will be Woody's last year as the Indiana Coach.

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16 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Upon doing so, absent a top tier B1G finish and a Sweet 16, or a mid-tier B1G finish and a Final Four, I am confident that this will be Woody's last year as the Indiana Coach.

And I hope you're right. Is it confirmed that this is Buckner's last year on the BOT?

Side note, my mother, former asst to a few IU presidents, attended multiple BOT meetings over the years, knew all of former T's personally, and is amazed at the current BOT and how things are right now.... That's about all I can say.

https://trustees.iu.edu/the-trustees/current-trustees/index.html

Edit - I see Buckner's current term is listed 2022-25

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1 minute ago, HoosierHoopster said:

And I hope you're right. Is it confirmed that this is Buckner's last year on the BOT?

Side note, my mother, former asst to a few IU presidents, attended multiple BOT meetings over the years, knew all of former T's personally, and is amazed at the current BOT and how things are right now.... That's about all I can say.

I believe Buckner’s term is up in June 2025, hasn’t officially said he is retiring or seeking another term yet IIRC 

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