They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Hornsby]

It's not a Ponzi scheme. You should stop saying that since you obviously don't know what a Ponzi scheme is.

I know exactly what it is. This ponzi scheme just doesnt try to payback the original investors it just pockets everything. Over 10 million spent on this years Woodson micky mouse operation.

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[go iu bb]

20 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

I know exactly what it is. This ponzi scheme just doesnt try to payback the original investors it just pockets everything. Over 10 million spent on this years Woodson micky mouse operation.

 

Incorrect. In a Ponzi scheme, the latest investments are used to pay the earlier investors monetary returns. So there are several ways in which this is definitely not a Ponzi scheme.

Do you realize there are types of fraud other than just Ponzi schemes? This isn't a pyramid scheme, either.

Also, you liked your own incorrect post? lmao

[8bucks]

1 hour ago, IUFAN1976 said:

See above

Yikes 

[Hornsby]

Incorrect. In a Ponzi scheme, the latest investments are used to pay the earlier investors monetary returns. So there are several ways in which this is definitely not a Ponzi scheme.

Do you realize there are types of fraud other than just Ponzi schemes? This isn't a pyramid scheme, either.

Also, you liked your own incorrect post? lmao

I'm done with this conversation. I get it you like Woodson and I don't. I can call it what I want to call it and it's a grift at the very least. Bye. Have a great day

 

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[go iu bb]

2 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

I'm done with this conversation. I get it you like Woodson and I don't. I can call it what I want to call it and it's a grift at the very least. Bye. Have a great day

 

lmao. I like Woodson? No, I do not and I've been very clear about that for a long time. Pointing out stupid posts isn't a defense of him, it's simply pointing out stupid posts. Call it a grift, I have no problem with that. It's just not a Ponzi scheme type of grift.

[IUFAN1976]

21 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

Yikes 

Yes, it’s not a good look for MW and the basketball program 

[IUFAN1976]

29 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

I'm done with this conversation. I get it you like Woodson and I don't. I can call it what I want to call it and it's a grift at the very least. Bye. Have a great day

 

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I agree with you, you can call it what you want to call.  It’s a message board that people can voice their opinions and  they want to call ripping off the University as a Ponzi scheme, I support that.  Regardless what it is, him and QB ripped off the University for millions of dollars and Woodson frauding himself as a college basketball coach.  I think a Ponzi scheme is fraud and what they did is fraud.  So I agree!  

[coonhounds]

lmao. I like Woodson? No, I do not and I've been very clear about that for a long time. Pointing out stupid posts isn't a defense of him, it's simply pointing out stupid posts. Call it a grift, I have no problem with that. It's just not a Ponzi scheme type of grift.

Imo he don't need lectured on different types of fraud and being incorrect. Just ignore it!

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[JSHoosier]

19 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I agree with you, you can call it what you want to call.  It’s a message board that people can voice their opinions and  they want to call ripping off the University as a Ponzi scheme, I support that.  Regardless what it is, him and QB ripped off the University for millions of dollars and Woodson frauding himself as a basketball coach.  I think a Ponzi scheme is fraud and what they did is fraud.  So I agree!  

I fixed the bolded part for you.

[IUFAN1976]

9 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

I fixed the bolded part for you.

I like it, works for me.  One way or the other, there is definitely fraud involved 

[Juwan Moye]

“Ponzi scheme? I never heard of it but I’ve coached ball long enough that I’m sure I could figure I out.”

 

- Mike Woodson, probably 

[Hornsby]

“Ponzi scheme? I never heard of it but I’ve coached ball long enough that I’m sure I could figure I out.”
 
- Mike Woodson, probably 

I'm not allowed to say ponzi scheme so can we call it a massive grift??

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[IUFAN1976]

3 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

I'm not allowed to say ponzi scheme so can we call it a massive grift??

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I still fraud and Woodson frauding himself as a college basketball coach 

[IndianaSconnie90]

On 12/24/2024 at 3:09 PM, HoosierTrav said:

My instincts and past experiences tell me that the basketball program is heading for a rough stretch. I have no confidence that this situation will be handled properly to facilitate a quick turnaround by the 2025-2026 season.

Here’s how I see things playing out:

Woodson, Buckner, and whatever supporters they have left will likely resist any changes fiercely, throwing up every possible obstacle to sabotage any moves Dotson tries to make. Based on Woodson’s past willingness to alienate fans (dismissing legitimate criticism as coming from “true fans”), I wouldn’t be surprised if he frames any decisions about his future as racially charged attacks rather than acknowledging his failure to meet not only the program’s expectations but also the lofty goals he set in his initial press conferences.

Ultimately, IU will either cave to pressure of some kind or fall back on their historically questionable decision-making. They’ll either keep Woodson (unlikely) or make another baffling hire. Then we’ll be gaslit into believing that this new hire is the one to turn the ship around—despite every instinct telling us otherwise.

I hope I’m wrong, but history doesn’t offer much encouragement. Kathy has said before that things operate a certain way at IU, and I fully expect the status quo to continue. Still, I’d love to be proven wrong.

At least there’s Cig and the football program to look forward to. The days of relying on basketball as the university’s only beacon of hope are gone. Right now, I’m completely apathetic toward the basketball program, and I don’t see that changing unless the next coach starts proving themselves on the court instead of in preseason hype.

 

Eh I disagree with virtually all of your post. We need to stop putting MW above Dolson for starters. He doesn't have the power to overturn SD regarding his job status, regardless of who his friends are. Dolson can/will fire him by season's end.

Also, you pointed out proof that the administration can get it right with the CC mention. When left to Dolson/Pam, this administration works as it should. Nobody on the basketball side has any leverage at this point to suggest that Pam/Scott shouldn't be the decision makers this time around

[IUFAN1976]

11 minutes ago, IndianaSconnie90 said:

Eh I disagree with virtually all of your post. We need to stop putting MW above Dolson for starters. He doesn't have the power to overturn SD regarding his job status, regardless of who his friends are. Dolson can/will fire him by season's end.

Also, you pointed out proof that the administration can get it right with the CC mention. When left to Dolson/Pam, this administration works as it should. Nobody on the basketball side has any leverage at this point to suggest that Pam/Scott shouldn't be the decision makers this time around

The only thing is MW doesn’t report to Dolson, so he can’t fire him.  Now everyone reports to Pam, so she can fire him or at least tell his direct report to fire him, but will she?  Because MW doesn’t report to Dolson is the issue here and that is why everyone who states it, is very apprehensive about him being fired.  Until it is officially announced, we all have a right to feel that way despite what you or anyone else says is going to happen.  Now do I think in the end will it happen, yes!  There has been to many issues over the past several years that says but until it officially announced, we all can be apprehensive 

[monskisprodigy]

1 hour ago, IUFAN1976 said:

The only thing is MW doesn’t report to Dolson, so he can’t fire him.  Now everyone reports to Pam, so she can fire him or at least tell his direct report to fire him, but will she?  Because MW doesn’t report to Dolson is the issue here and that is why everyone who states it, is very apprehensive about him being fired.  Until it is officially announced, we all have a right to feel that way despite what you or anyone else says is going to happen.  Now do I think in the end will it happen, yes!  There has been to many issues over the past several years that says but until it officially announced, we all can be apprehensive 

Not doubting you or this…because I have seen it posted on here several times, and it was even mentioned on the hysterics podcast (Not a big hysterics guys…but I listened for the drama) episode with Brian Evans where they said it was a fact that he didn’t report to Dolson.

Is this actually true? And if so, who does he report to?

[IUHoosierJoe]

Just now, monskisprodigy said:

Not doubting you or this…because it’s Indiana, and I have seen it posted on here several times, and it was even mentioned on the hysterics podcast episode with Brian Evans (said it was a fact that he didn’t report to Dolson). 

Is this actually true? And if so, who does he report to?

It’s not true.  I responded a couple days ago to one of his thousands of posts that claim that and got a snarky response, and he just keeps posting it.  Section 2.03 of Woodson’s contract expressly states that Woodson reports to the Director of Athletics.  The contract is public information and anyone can look it up, so it seems pretty ridiculous to keep posting otherwise.  

[HoosierTrav]

1 hour ago, IndianaSconnie90 said:

Eh I disagree with virtually all of your post. We need to stop putting MW above Dolson for starters. He doesn't have the power to overturn SD regarding his job status, regardless of who his friends are. Dolson can/will fire him by season's end.

Also, you pointed out proof that the administration can get it right with the CC mention. When left to Dolson/Pam, this administration works as it should. Nobody on the basketball side has any leverage at this point to suggest that Pam/Scott shouldn't be the decision makers this time around

I respect your opinion. I hope you’re right. I’m also not arguing that Dolson or Whitten aren’t capable of making a good hire. Just stating that I don’t have faith in that happening….. This isn’t the first 2nd or 3rd rodeo I’ve gotten my hopes up for. This time around, I’m too apathetic to be moved by anything other than an hire that actually moves the needle. 

[Golfman25]

19 minutes ago, monskisprodigy said:

Not doubting you or this…because I have seen it posted on here several times, and it was even mentioned on the hysterics podcast (Not a big hysterics guys…but I listened for the drama) episode with Brian Evans where they said it was a fact that he didn’t report to Dolson.

Is this actually true? And if so, who does he report to?

Wouldn’t this and termination be part of his contract?  Anybody have a copy?

[Golfman25]

15 minutes ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

It’s not true.  I responded a couple days ago to one of his thousands of posts that claim that and got a snarky response, and he just keeps posting it.  Section 2.03 of Woodson’s contract expressly states that Woodson reports to the Director of Athletics.  The contract is public information and anyone can look it up, so it seems pretty ridiculous to keep posting otherwise.  

Asked my question before seeing this post.  Cites section number, so pretty solid.