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They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

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12 hours ago, coonhounds said:

I know this is the fire mike thread but won't there potentially be way better players in the portal after ncaa tournament? Maybe we been talking to some elite guards telling them were going to pay huge after their done? Pipe dream?

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In all likelihood yes so do you shop early so you know you've at least got a roster for next season or wait and roll the dice waiting on players to portal after getting beat in the NIT/NCAA?   In the weeks leading up to the end of the season, Rabby repeatedly said IU's portal connections were much stronger than they were a year ago.  IMO this meant we already had info on kids who would likely portal and at least a preliminary indication we would be given consideration from their "people".   

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4 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

In all likelihood yes so do you shop early so you know you've at least got a roster for next season or wait and roll the dice waiting on players to portal after getting beat in the NIT/NCAA?   In the weeks leading up to the end of the season, Rabby repeatedly said IU's portal connections were much stronger than they were a year ago.  IMO this meant we already had info on kids who would likely portal and at least a preliminary indication we would be given consideration from their "people".   

Yes after the tournament you might get a RJ Davis in the portal. So let's save a million for him. Half joking

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29 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

In all likelihood yes so do you shop early so you know you've at least got a roster for next season or wait and roll the dice waiting on players to portal after getting beat in the NIT/NCAA?   In the weeks leading up to the end of the season, Rabby repeatedly said IU's portal connections were much stronger than they were a year ago.  IMO this meant we already had info on kids who would likely portal and at least a preliminary indication we would be given consideration from their "people".   

We're already rolling the dice, why not go for broke. I wonder if connections will translate to commitments. 

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2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

It's funny we said we didn't have time for the NIT but we probably would have been out already. So not like it would have used up much time. 

I laughed, but in all seriousness, I think Woodson didn't want to add another loss to his record this year.  

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17 hours ago, RoncalliHoosier said:

I was being sarcastic. (thus the "/s")

The real kicker is those schools will use their money to supplement recruiting. Woodson will use it to buy a team instead of recruiting.

There's a huge difference between 1-2 players via the portal and 5-7 players. Woodson's way also comes with built-in excuses - new team, young team, still getting to know one another and a whole new hump to get over.

Yeah it's absolutely crazy that a 4th year coach needs 5-7 portal players to field a team. FIRE WOODSON NOW!!!  I can see that with a first year coach coming into a bare cupboard to duct tape a team together.  What the F is our administration trying to do put a final nail on the coffin?  I don't see any light down this long azz tunnel that we are trapped in :(. 

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2 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

In all likelihood yes so do you shop early so you know you've at least got a roster for next season or wait and roll the dice waiting on players to portal after getting beat in the NIT/NCAA?   In the weeks leading up to the end of the season, Rabby repeatedly said IU's portal connections were much stronger than they were a year ago.  IMO this meant we already had info on kids who would likely portal and at least a preliminary indication we would be given consideration from their "people".   


really will need to start moving after Monday.  Only 16 teams will be left, and unless you're sure you have someone on those teams, waiting is a mistake.  

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Fire Mike Woodson. And I know there is history with his sister, but Gottlieb has been talking about how difficult UVA has had it with the NIL and portal era. Much like Michigan, they don’t accept many transfers. Any chance we could take a big swing for Bennett to get him where he’d have all the resources. pinning this for this time next year lol

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The transfer portal was a way for players to transfer for more playing time, smaller school to a P5 school for more exposure, grad transfers etc. It was meant to be used to FILL IN MISSING PIECES OF THE ROSTER, not to build one. Then last year a couple of teams did well in the NCAAs, very well and all we heard was "9 new players on this team with a new coach". Yet it was later proven ie: Kansas State, all of their transfers were over a two year period. I think I can honestly say it is unheard of a team being successful with 8 or more new players in one year. Successful is the key word there. 
That is where Woodson is now by his own choosing or a combination of his recruiting/portal failures. Now that "bare cupboard to duct tape a team together" is very likely IU in the 2025-2026 season, with a new coach. BTW, I am still trying to figure out how 24-31 players can be offered to come to IU, and some with NIL money ... saying no and went somewhere else. How does that happen with a "ex" basketball school that has almost everything??????
Woodson is going to leave the new coach with a total mess next year thanks to his flawed strategy. The new coach may need 10 or 11 new players given cupps and Newton will be really the only returners probably. That's woodsons idea of leaving the program in a good place I guess.

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2 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Woodson is going to leave the new coach with a total mess next year thanks to his flawed strategy. The new coach may need 10 or 11 new players given cupps and Newton will be really the only returners probably. That's woodsons idea of leaving the program in a good place I guess.

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28 minutes ago, iubhounds2 said:

The transfer portal was a way for players to transfer for more playing time, smaller school to a P5 school for more exposure, grad transfers etc. It was meant to be used to FILL IN MISSING PIECES OF THE ROSTER, not to build one. Then last year a couple of teams did well in the NCAAs, very well and all we heard was "9 new players on this team with a new coach". Yet it was later proven ie: Kansas State, all of their transfers were over a two year period. I think I can honestly say it is unheard of a team being successful with 8 or more new players in one year. Successful is the key word there. 

That is where Woodson is now by his own choosing or a combination of his recruiting/portal failures. Now that "bare cupboard to duct tape a team together" is very likely IU in the 2025-2026 season, with a new coach. BTW, I am still trying to figure out how 24-31 players can be offered to come to IU, and some with NIL money ... saying no and went somewhere else. How does that happen with a "ex" basketball school that has almost everything??????

Two words: Mike Woodson.

His style is antiquated, his delivery is abrasive, his humility is non-existent, his understanding of how to build a roster simply stupid. He's incompetent, cannot read a room (or chooses not to), he is divisive, and he's protected by Buckner. That protection makes every other negative characteristic moot, as there are no consequences for any of his actions. He has offered a reported 31 players, but hasn't bothered to build relationships with any of them, their families or their coaches. He's someone that no one wants to play for, unless they are paid obscene amounts of money.

I don't see the portal approach being much different. The key is the Cook's and the Simons' open checkbooks.

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4 minutes ago, RoncalliHoosier said:

Two words: Mike Woodson.

His style is antiquated, his delivery is abrasive, his humility is non-existent, his understanding of how to build a roster simply stupid. He's incompetent, cannot read a room (or chooses not to), he is divisive, and he's protected by Buckner. That protection makes every other negative characteristic moot, as there are no consequences for any of his actions. He has offered a reported 31 players, but hasn't bothered to build relationships with any of them, their families or their coaches. He's someone that no one wants to play for, unless they are paid obscene amounts of money.

I don't see the portal approach being much different. The key is the Cook's and the Simons' open checkbooks.

The irony is that we have become what IU fans have always claimed to detest. We have become that program who simply tries to buys the most expensive players. 

Although, We're the less successful version, obviously...

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11 minutes ago, Silat Player said:

The irony is that we have become what IU fans have always claimed to detest. We have become that program who simply tries to buys the most expensive players. 

Although, We're the less successful version, obviously...

This is true. I don’t detest it much, I just wish we were good at it.  

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13 hours ago, go iu bb said:

https://sportsmediapass.com/woodson-sending-a-message-with-the-portal/?fbclid=IwAR0Vui11SZf7kfnk0zPSykKKzTYjMt07_JS6QykuWefD34NOqYhysUNiSgU

Lol.

"part of what makes Woodson such a good coach is his willingness to admit when he’s wrong. He understands the need to evolve."

Must be talking about another Mike Woodson. 

Why did I laugh so hard that I literally almost spit my coffee out reading this statement in the article about Woody.

"He’s in Portal Mode. Let him cook."  

Does Mike "Portal Mode" Woodson look like this when his is cooking?

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Or does it look something like this?

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