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Soon to RETIRE Coach Woodson Thread

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1 hour ago, 12345Brad said:

McCollum seems too risky for this hire right now for IU. He may end up being the next Bo Ryan, but seems risky.   Could have a high ceiling, but I’d put someone like Chris Collins over him personally. 

I see McCollum as having a high floor but a low ceiling. I don't think elite talent is going to want to play in that system. We would be much better than we are now, but I' don't think he would put us in a position to win championships.

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1 hour ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

He’s the answer to the losing problem. He’d 100% do very well here. The only question is whether the baggage/bad PR is worth winning again. I’m sick and tired of IU being such a sorry *** program, so it would be for me. 

I think it’s a matter if it’s something that was a one time thing or has secretly happened multiple times but just not reported. I also think he would need to agree to entering AA or sign some sort of clause. If he wins here AND doesn’t have another dust up then in a couple years it mainly goes away because people will stop hating on him. He has to absolutely prove he’s turned his life around though IMO.

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14 hours ago, Hornsby said:

Let's be honest sampson was the only good coach we hired in 25 years. If we hired him now vs then he would skate and be our coach for 20 years. The stuff he went down for is now a joke. I mean with nil and online how many of these guys even go to a class. Seriously how hard is a good grade online. I haven't heard of a guy being academically ineligible in 15 years. I just hope we can finally go big and get it right.

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It may be a joke now and I tend to agree with you about that. The fact remains it was illegal when he did it and he was already on probation with the NCAA.  He deserved to be fired.

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3 minutes ago, HoosierX said:

I see McCollum as having a high floor but a low ceiling. I don't think elite talent is going to want to play in that system. We will be much better than we are now, but I'm not we would be in a position to win championships.

Fair enough.   Just seems like a very risky candidate. 

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22 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

It's not. I'm not interjecting myself into any more Stevens circle jerk talk. When Woodson is let go and this board wants to get serious about realistic candidates I'll gladly partake. 

Will Wade isn't a realistic candidate so I don't believe you. Just because your fantasy is different than others' fantasies doesn't make your fantasy realistic.

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4 minutes ago, HoosierX said:

I see McCollum as having a high floor but a low ceiling. I don't think elite talent is going to want to play in that system. We will be much better than we are now, but I'm not we would be in a position to win championships.

I'm not questioning your take, but I know nothing about his system.  I looked up this season's numbers and see Drake is averaging about 71ppg ... hit 80+ a couple times....so I'm genuinely asking what's wrong with his system?

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29 minutes ago, Mr. Hoosier Pride said:

I'm not questioning your take, but I know nothing about his system.  I looked up this season's numbers and see Drake is averaging about 71ppg ... hit 80+ a couple times....so I'm genuinely asking what's wrong with his system?

They are 364th out of 364 teams in adjusted tempo on Kenpom, and his system doesn't emphasize 3 pointers. It's just not a modern offense

While his teams may be very disciplined (i.e., the tempo is due to working the ball around until they get a great shot), I don't see elite athletes wanting to play here with him as the coach. We could be a very good team with him, but it won't be fun to watch and I doubt we would ever have the horses to truly compete for a ship.

Edit: I also think it would take time to institute his system, leading to yet a few more rough years. I know he is doing well at Drake but he has a lot of roster continuity, especially in his starting 5.

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Well if we don't here of atleast some type of press conference for tomorrow today sometime then I fear were stuck riding a woody this Saturday! I want this hump monster gone

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The fact they need to see more is a big concern. I am believing they don't take basketball serious and we will never be good again. We have been emberassed several times this season and last 4 years. I will give credit to a few close losses recently. Last night though was pure comedy gold if you were just watching and didn't care. 26 to 4 to start lol. Comeon

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3 minutes ago, HoosierX said:

They are 364th out of 364 teams in adjusted tempo on Kenpom, and his system doesn't emphasize 3 pointers. It's just not a modern offense

While his teams may be very disciplined (i.e., the tempo is due to working the ball around until they get a great shot), I don't see elite athletes wanting to play here with him as the coach. We could be very good team with him, but it won't be fun to watch and I doubt we would ever have the horses to truly compete for a ship.

Yikes. I supported the idea of Mccollum cause he wins a lot. This is a deal breaker. He's more Archie Miller than Archie Miller was.

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25 minutes ago, HoosierX said:

I see McCollum as having a high floor but a low ceiling. I don't think elite talent is going to want to play in that system. We would be much better than we are now, but I' don't think he would put us in a position to win championships.

 

Then the Lealtor has just the place for him.

 

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