Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[IUFAN1976 2,876]

3 minutes ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

Assembly Call went into this in great detail last week. What does Woodson have to point to going forward? Liam?

Crean (while he had 3 awful years) had Zeller coming in, Yogi/Hollowell the following year, and at the time Blackmon and Lyles. That and some decent young pieces like Watford/Hulls. Things seemed on the rise and the next two years were good. 

Archie's team makes the tournament in 2020 if not for Covid. Trayce was coming back. Also had a "5 star PG" coming the following year. Things seemed on the rise. 

Look at Juwan Howard's record at Michigan. That is where IU is 100% headed. I believe Chris along with Trilly and even Rabjohns...if Dolson has Pearl lined up to be coach, and this admin decides to keep Woodson...I give up. If there was nobody that wanted this job, fine. Keep him for year 4. But it sounds like that isn't the case. 

That last point you make is exactly why they have to do it.  A quality good coach wants to come here and if they don’t make that move, they could lose a lot of the fanbase.  And it will prove that the administration isn’t serious about winning 

[IUFAN1976 2,876]

26 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Yeah, it might help if we would quit winning some games. It's going to be a long couple of weeks

Ok, I quit rooting for us to win, my bad!

[IUFAN1976 2,876]

24 minutes ago, Cd71 said:

I hear a lot about BP’s age, but does anyone think that his son may take over when he retires and he stay on as an advisor? I would think that would be a great deal for BP.  Great for the program as well.  Stability and less turnover.  

I think that should be the plan, I would be for that!

[IUFAN1976 2,876]

18 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

And Woodson has friends in powerful positions.

That’s one of the real problems, he will go out kicking and screaming 

[Hoosier DaDa 2,255]

14 hours ago, Demo said:

So we’re about to see a bidding war between Stevens and Donovan for Tom Allen’s house. See, the market always comes to you. 

I heard Leal has the listing.

[IU Prof 840]

8 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

That last point you make is exactly why they have to do it.  A quality good coach wants to come here and if they don’t make that move, they could lose a lot of the fanbase.  And it will prove that the administration isn’t serious about winning 

Makes one wonder if part of the reason the Pearl stuff is leaking is to subtly put pressure on any holdouts to make the change...

[Hovadipo 55,450]

20 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

Yesssss, this could get real ugly.  I really can’t see any scenario where Woodson goes quietly into the night!

 

18 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

It’s going to get really complicated 

 

16 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I sure hope you are right but the latter part of your post is what I expect Woodson to do.  His ego won’t allow him to just fade away!

 

15 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I don’t think it will be that easy

 

1 minute ago, IUFAN1976 said:

That’s one of the real problems, he will go out kicking and screaming 

Any thoughts on Woody’s willingness to bow out gracefully after the season?

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 8,977]

2 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

That’s one of the real problems, he will go out kicking and screaming 

He's mentioned that to you? 

[jbeaman9 1,021]

24 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

Makes one wonder if part of the reason the Pearl stuff is leaking is to subtly put pressure on any holdouts to make the change...

This is a great thought, and one that I had not considered. If Dolson can get Pearl lined up verbally he can then go around to all those donors who might be on the fence and say "here is our guy, here is our upgrade, here is our way out. get on board or be one of the ones who get in the way of progress and bringing IU back to relevancy."

[IUc2016 7,121]

29 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

Makes one wonder if part of the reason the Pearl stuff is leaking is to subtly put pressure on any holdouts to make the change...

I thought about this as well, and it makes sense to me. It also makes sense that Pearl would do it to pressure Auburn into raise, facility improvements, etc.

So, could be either one, both make sense.

[Demo 19,727]

26 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

Makes one wonder if part of the reason the Pearl stuff is leaking is to subtly put pressure on any holdouts to make the change...

If that were true, given that Pearl has an absolute minimum of 4 games and as many as 11 left to coach, that would be incredibly poor form.

[jbeaman9 1,021]

1 minute ago, IUc2016 said:

I thought about this as well, and it makes sense to me. It also makes sense that Pearl would do it to pressure Auburn into raise, facility improvements, etc.

So, could be either one, both make sense.

The only reason I don't think he is using this as a raise, and I could be way wrong, but he just received a raise from Auburn two years ago and he truly loves Indiana as a state and credits much of his success to his early days at USI and being able to listen/learn from Coach Knight. I think this is his "dream school" and wants to be the one to bring it back to the mountain top. 

[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,310]

Feels like we're headed for the Hatfield's vs McCoy's and a potential fracture among our IUBB alumni.  From accounts I've read, QB, Zeke, Wittman orchestrated the Woody hire and I've seen Kitchel's name aligned with that side as well.  Last week Rabby reported that a number of former players - he used the phrase 'north of 10' - met with Dolson to voice their concerns about the direction of the program and a desire for a change.  It will be a true shame if the Woody coaching era creates a serious rift among former players.

[RaceToTheTop 25,278]

29 minutes ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

I heard Leal has the listing.

Leal was looking to sell a house inside the three second lane at Mackey Arena but Edey has established squatter's rights.

[Scotty R 2,127]

I would caution everyone on this Pearl or May news because we have no idea if this is even happening at this time. We have been burnt to many times on these Internet rumors(Donovan and Stevens) so I am not going to get my hopes up. Until I hear reported by a reputable outlet, I am going in the assumption that Woodson will be back next year.

[Chris007 43,658]

1 minute ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Feels like we're headed for the Hatfield's vs McCoy's and a potential fracture among our IUBB alumni.  From accounts I've read, QB, Zeke, Wittman orchestrated the Woody hire and I've seen Kitchel's name aligned with that side as well.  Last week Rabby reported that a number of former players - he used the phrase 'north of 10' - met with Dolson to voice their concerns about the direction of the program and a desire for a change.  It will be a true shame if the Woody coaching era creates a serious rift among former players.

I'm surprised a few names haven't leaked if there were that many. I was interested to hear who they were. I'm guessing Brian Evans would be one

[Scotty R 2,127]

3 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Feels like we're headed for the Hatfield's vs McCoy's and a potential fracture among our IUBB alumni.  From accounts I've read, QB, Zeke, Wittman orchestrated the Woody hire and I've seen Kitchel's name aligned with that side as well.  Last week Rabby reported that a number of former players - he used the phrase 'north of 10' - met with Dolson to voice their concerns about the direction of the program and a desire for a change.  It will be a true shame if the Woody coaching era creates a serious rift among former players.

Pretty much been like that since RMK was fired

[RaceToTheTop 25,278]

1 minute ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Feels like we're headed for the Hatfield's vs McCoy's and a potential fracture among our IUBB alumni.  From accounts I've read, QB, Zeke, Wittman somewhat orchestrated the Woody hire and I've seen Kitchel's name aligned with that side as well.  Last week Rabby reported that a number of former players - he used the phrase 'north of 10' - met with Dolson to voice their concerns about the direction of the program and a desire for a change.  It will be a true shame if the Woody coaching era creates a serious rift among former players.

If the Zeke, Wittman, Kitchel set are still on that side it's a separation that needs to take place.  Think about how long it took for Georgetown to finally separate from the John Thompson group.  Rather have hurt feelings of athletes that played in the 70s and 80s than a program at a point that Ed Cooley is going to have trouble getting back to relevancy.

[hoosiersoxfan 227]

On 2/29/2024 at 12:56 PM, hoosiersoxfan said:

I haven't read through all this thread recently so I'm not sure where the rumors are coming from.  I'm being told there could be a small shakeup with the coaching staff, but Woodson isn't going anywhere after this season unless he decides to step down which would be a surprise.  His plan was always 4-5 years and then retirement and his buyout makes it unlikely he is removed as coach after this season.

Maybe he sees the writing on the wall and decides to step down early but he is pretty oblivious to just how much people want him out at this time.

Hearing nothing has changed from what I posted last Thursday.  I'm still hoping Woody can actually see the writing on the wall and can step down in a couple weeks instead of his plans of a year or two from now.  In the meantime he has a round of golf to play in between getting ready for Minnesota on Wednesday.

[Chris007 43,658]

1 minute ago, Scotty R said:

I would caution everyone on this Pearl or May news because we have no idea if this is even happening at this time. We have been burnt to many times on these Internet rumors(Donovan and Stevens) so I am not going to get my hopes up. Until I hear reported by a reputable outlet, I am going in the assumption that Woodson will be back next year.

I think that is the safest thing to do since we have been burnt before. Others are better at it than I am. I get my hopes up every time.