Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[Papacap 556]

That we need to get blown out or some other “optics” for us to maybe, perhaps, if the stars align make a change shows how much of a clown show IU has become. Yes. Getting destroyed by Maryland…. That would do it. 
People thinking Woodson is gone by the end of the year is cute. I remember thinking Santa was real, too. Good times. 

[JF87 1,535]

It doesn't seem like the Administration can get Woodson to improve, and it doesn't appear that Woodson can motivate our team to play up to their potential.  It's up to the fans that attend the game to provide the impetus for change.  I hope poor play and poor effort are met with plenty of boos in our remaining home games.  Expectations must be met by IU coaches and players.  If not, the coaches, players, and administration must be embarrassed in front of the viewing audience.  

[Scotty R 2,309]

42 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

Jerry just posted earlier that they're waiting for the right moment to pull the trigger. He's also said that from an outsider's view, firing him with our current record would throw up red flags. We all know why Woodson needs to be gone but I don't think he's wrong. 

That is where I have concerns because you just take their word as gospel. You believe it then when things don't happen then people jump to the conclusion that the administration is incompetent. The thing is these talks about interim coaches probably never happen but people think they did so you jump to the conclusion the administration backed down.

[Scotty R 2,309]

39 minutes ago, Rico said:

It is a freakin' fan forum Scott.  It is full of speculation and conjecture.  

 

And Woodson sucks.

But a lot of these people actually believe everything they say and then blame the administration when things don't happen 

[Hornsby 2,283]

That we need to get blown out or some other “optics” for us to maybe, perhaps, if the stars align make a change shows how much of a clown show IU has become. Yes. Getting destroyed by Maryland…. That would do it. 
People thinking Woodson is gone by the end of the year is cute. I remember thinking Santa was real, too. Good times. 

Trust the process. Lol the process got us in this mess

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[IUHAHN81 2,299]

I'm not worried about an interim coach. Let him have his cake. Flounder the damn season away and then make the damn change. It doesn't take a member of the administration to see he ain't "The guy!" Anyone still breathing knows that! 

[Rico 3,132]

6 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

But a lot of these people actually believe everything they say and then blame the administration when things don't happen 

Welcome to the internet...

[IUFAN1976 3,575]

1 hour ago, JSHoosier said:

Well he never had to assemble a roster before he got this job, so what did you expect? 

That fact just makes hiring him even dumber.

I didn’t like the hire but the part that that didn’t make it totally dumb, which was fairly smart on Dolson’s behalf since he was forced to hire this idiot in the first place place, but was putting Matta and Fife on the staff.  That why most fans came around and accepted the hire because Matta and Fife would have helped with all the intangibles they from recruiting, roster construction, game preparation, etc but Woodson nip that in the butt immediately after he start because he knew those two would have found out he doesn’t know crap and would have reported to Dolson how bad he actually is or how lazy he is.  He never intended on actually doing the work required, he just wanted the pay.  The hire was dumb but having Matta and Fife on staff actually wasn’t.  Allowing Woodson to fire Fife and run off Matta was even dumber.  We will never know if that was going to work because Woodson wouldn’t allow it.  They should have fired him after that, IMO

[IUFAN1976 3,575]

10 minutes ago, IUHAHN81 said:

I'm not worried about an interim coach. Let him have his cake. Flounder the damn season away and then make the damn change. It doesn't take a member of the administration to see he ain't "The guy!" Anyone still breathing knows that! 

Except QB and SF

[IUHAHN81 2,299]

4 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

Except QB and SF

Oh, even they know. They just have different agendas than us. 

[Hoosierfan2017 21,993]

I actually agree with never been got Scott on this. We shouldn’t just take it as a given that Woodson is gone next year.

IU cares about optics more than anything else. They will care about the optics of firing an alum who made 3 tournaments in 4 years. It shouldn’t matter. Anyone with a pulse can see the issues over the past four years. But the IU administration will care. That’s why I’m so adamant that it’s vital we miss the tournament this year. 

[IUHAHN81 2,299]

We're gonna learn a lot about Mr. Dolson when this season is over. I'm keeping the faith that he's a winner! 

[Artie86 2,097]

19 minutes ago, IUHAHN81 said:

We're gonna learn a lot about Mr. Dolson when this season is over. I'm keeping the faith that he's a winner! 

who knows, ……Dolson could be “AD of The Year” after the new BB hire combined with The Cignetti hire. Lol

[Golfman25 5,774]

3 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

"5 game winning streak?"

Our next five games are:

1. Maryland at home
2. At Purdoo
3. At Wisconsin
4. Michigan at home
5. At Michigan State

• Those teams have a current combined conference record of 32-10!

Even in a better year, if we could win two of those five it would be considered a reasonable outcome. If we lose to Maryland it's likely that at most we will win one of those five, which would put us at 15-10, 6-8 in conference. Two of five would be 16-9, 7-7 in conference. It's not looking all that good.

However, if we win three of the next five? 17-8 and 8-6 in conference and this Indiana team will have duly earned some real praise. I just don't see it happening.

Unfortunately, the math to 10 conference wins is still in play.  We need 5 wins and have 6 home games left.  Plus 1 weak, winable away game vs. Washington.  Sunday vs Maryland is the "superbowl" at this point.  We don't win that one, and the math gets much, much more dificult as we'll need to beat both Michigan and Purdue at home.   

Now, I think it's quite possible that we lose those 5 games by more than 100 points combined.  We never play well on Sunday mornings at home.  And the others are just waiting to ***** slap our sorry butts.  

[IUFAN1976 3,575]

35 minutes ago, IUHAHN81 said:

Oh, even they know. They just have different agendas than us. 

Well that is the truest statement on this message board!

[IUHAHN81 2,299]

6 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

who knows, ……Dolson could be “AD of The Year” after the new BB hire combined with The Cignetti hire. Lol

That's what I'm counting on! ;)

[IUFAN1976 3,575]

31 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I actually agree with never been got Scott on this. We shouldn’t just take it as a given that Woodson is gone next year.

IU cares about optics more than anything else. They will care about the optics of firing an alum who made 3 tournaments in 4 years. It shouldn’t matter. Anyone with a pulse can see the issues over the past four years. But the IU administration will care. That’s why I’m so adamant that it’s vital we miss the tournament this year. 

There were Hornsby has been for awhile.  The Administration hasn’t been trusted by us fans for them to do the right thing.  I still think that he is gone after the year, but I can see it going the other way if we make the tournament, especially if we get lucky and make it to the 2nd weekend, then the optics get really complicated.  

[HoosierMatty 472]

I just want him gone period. I don't care if it's at the end of the year or mid season firing. Honestly at this point I kind of want it to happen at the end rather than now. Woodson is an arrogant jerk and deserves to hear all the boos when we get torched by Michigan and Purdue. 

[Hornsby 2,283]

I didn’t like the hire but the part that that didn’t make it totally dumb, which was fairly smart on Dolson’s behalf since he was forced to hire this idiot in the first place place, but was putting Matta and Fife on the staff.  That why most fans came around and accepted the hire because Matta and Fife would have helped with all the intangibles they from recruiting, roster construction, game preparation, etc but Woodson nip that in the butt immediately after he start because he knew those two would have found out he doesn’t know crap and would have reported to Dolson how bad he actually is or how lazy he is.  He never intended on actually doing the work required, he just wanted the pay.  The hire was dumb but having Matta and Fife on staff actually wasn’t.  Allowing Woodson to fire Fife and run off Matta was even dumber.  We will never know if that was going to work because Woodson wouldn’t allow it.  They should have fired him after that, IMO

Mike woodson isn't accepting no help from some college guys. Fife can get lost I coached in the nba. With woodsons ego this was doomed from day one. If tjd had left I'm pretty sure he would be 0 for 3 on ncaa's

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[Herotime 766]

Let’s all dream together! @Chris007 how do you suspect we’ll hear about the firing initially?