Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[Artie86 2,015]

Just now, AZ Hoosier said:

Optics be damned. There is a lot more involved... nepotism, incompetence (on many levels, including the BoT and the coaching staff), results over the past 25 years...

This^^^^^

#1.   refer to the bolded.....

[Stuhoo 81,724]

18 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

All I'm saying is that whoever is hired should get more than two years before he has to start looking over his shoulders. 

Sure! And absent a Kenny Payne-like complete program nuclear meltdown from day one a head coach should get four years.

For me the best reason to have parted from Woody after last year was the opportunity to hire Dusty May, who would have been a uniquely outstanding long-term solution.  Nevertheless, I understand the logic behind giving him a fourth year - there will always be excellent replacement choices for a mega-program like IU.

But now? We're approaching nuclear meltdown mode if not already there, and it seems like the best of our various bad options is to cut bait mid-season.

[Golfman25 5,734]

1 hour ago, AH1971 said:

Winning instantly (because of the portal) doesn't translate to building and establishing a culture. We've had one coach do that the last 25 years (Crean) and he was by far and away our best coach since RMK. The portal alleviates 6-25 seasons in year 1, but if you're buying 7-8 guys every single offseason, you aren't building or establishing anything. 



And yet that is exactly what "The King" decided to do because he had zero interest in going to HS gyms and recruiting HS players.  That was clear by year 2 and definitely 3, yet you think he deserved a year 4, where he had to bring in the mother load of portal players?  SMH.  

[IUCrazy2 2,519]

3 hours ago, AH1971 said:

He's not been interested in the job either of the last two times its been open. I think it goes without being said where his heart lies. 

But I'm not going to stop you from thinking the third time is the charm. 

I am not in the prediction business but how many times did North Carolina have to ask Roy Williams?

[Hoosier987 1,298]

22 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said:

@Chris007

LOL. We have to have one of the worst Assistant Coaching Staffs (not support staff) in the country. This is what happens when you have an assistant hired solely because World Wide Wes wanted him to get a job...and 2 others who were on the former coaching staff...a Staff that lost a lot of games...and of course, Walsh being one of them, tried to jump ship on Woodson and go join OSU.  Clearly, our assistant coaching staff doesn't do anything of substance, because if they did, we wouldn't be seeing the same dumb stuff game in and game out. 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,362]

7 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

All I'm saying is that whoever is hired should get more than two years before he has to start looking over his shoulders. 

Why? That's 700 days and 60+ games into their tenure. That's crazy

[mdiu28 1,848]

Some interesting tweets from Dakich. SIAP.

 

[Hoosierfan2017 21,795]

18 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

So winning overnight is priority over setting, building, and growing a foundation?

And yet I still don't understand why people are shocked that we do this every few years. 

Woodson did none of the above and then antagonized the fanbase anyway. Shocker that fans didn’t stick with him. 

[Artie86 2,015]

Just now, Hoosier987 said:

LOL. We have to have one of the worst Assistant Coaching Staffs (not support staff) in the country. This is what happens when you have an assistant hired solely because World Wide Wes wanted him to get a job...and 2 others who were on the former coaching staff...a Staff that lost a lot of games...and of course, Walsh being one of them, tried to jump ship on Woodson and go join OSU.  Clearly, our assistant coaching staff doesn't do anything of substance, because if they did, we wouldn't be seeing the same dumb stuff game in and game out. 

....I'm sure their hands are tied and bored... 

[AH1971 1,573]

1 minute ago, IUCrazy2 said:

I am not in the prediction business but how many times did North Carolina have to ask Roy Williams?

Twice. And that's because replacing a legend like Dean Smith rarely works out.

But unlike Stevens, Roy Williams played, attended, and coached at UNC and didn't walk away from the college game. 

[Chris007 45,235]

1 minute ago, Hoosier987 said:

LOL. We have to have one of the worst Assistant Coaching Staffs (not support staff) in the country. This is what happens when you have an assistant hired solely because World Wide Wes wanted him to get a job...and 2 others who were on the former coaching staff...a Staff that lost a lot of games...and of course, Walsh being one of them, tried to jump ship on Woodson and go join OSU.  Clearly, our assistant coaching staff doesn't do anything of substance, because if they did, we wouldn't be seeing the same dumb stuff game in and game out. 

Someone needs to tell Walsh to read the room. We're on the edge of our seat here and we don't need to hear about his 5M's. He keeps this crap up I'm not buying his IU merchandise when he's let go at the end of the year like last time Archie was dismissed

[Stuhoo 81,724]

13 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said:

I am not in the prediction business but how many times did North Carolina have to ask Roy Williams?

Six, but it wasn't until the sixth time that sweetened the offer with a guaranteed anonymous full-service account for the Rick Pitino Frisky Escort and Coca-r Cola Delivery Service.

Ol' Roy Could. Not. Resist.

[Hoosier987 1,298]

1 minute ago, mdiu28 said:

Some interesting tweets from Dakich. SIAP.

 

Shockingly (sarcasm), Woodson doesn't put fear in these guys. They consider him like a "grandpa." 

[tyappleg 3,301]

2 minutes ago, mdiu28 said:

Some interesting tweets from Dakich. SIAP.

 

Was the former IU coach Dan Dakich?

[Hoosierfanyuh 2,425]

1 minute ago, mdiu28 said:

Some interesting tweets from Dakich. SIAP.

 

Fits his narrative. It’s also on the coach to demand respect, clearly doesn’t have a good hold on the locker room and i thought that prior to these “texts”

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,362]

3 minutes ago, mdiu28 said:

Some interesting tweets from Dakich. SIAP.

 

Lolololol well who signed Rice up? 

[Hoosierfanyuh 2,425]

Just now, Hoosier987 said:

Shockingly (sarcasm), Woodson doesn't put fear in these guys. They consider him like a "grandpa." 

This times 1000

[Stuhoo 81,724]

4 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Someone needs to tell Walsh to read the room. We're on the edge of our seat here and we don't need to hear about his 5M's. He keeps this crap up I'm not buying his IU merchandise when he's let go at the end of the year like last time Archie was dismissed

Walsh new nickname?

[Stuhoo 81,724]

4 minutes ago, tyappleg said:

Was the former IU coach Dan Dakich?

Oh **** that is 'post-of-the-day' funny.

[TTT 1,012]

Here is a IU men’s basketball program concern:  Not really interested in watching this version of men’s basketball for rest of season. 1.  IU men’s basketball is a very frustrated group 2.  Frustration is growing parallel to a pressure cooker which somewhat came out in Illinois game.  Pushing and shoving and coach Woodson dismissal of a sissy shove by IU player when he tried to jump over top of other players to shove Illinois player to the ground.  A dumpster fire considering everything involved.  3.  There is no organized team currently and players are confused and coaches are lost.  This is a fragile situation that could get out of control on the floor.  With continued and constant trailing anywhere from 15 to 30 points during games expect frustration to grow and tempers to flare.  The team including coaches lack intellect.  IU men’s basketball in total is currently a lost program

Conclusion:  an all out brawl is not out of the question.  Plus behaviors both on and off court are suspect.  This has potential to lead IU men’s basketball to a probationary status for the future.  
Close scrutiny should already be implemented and preparation for corrective action Now.  (Before something happens that IU does not want).