Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[Stuhoo 81,357]

I don’t see the eight or nine additional wins currently, but I do see the roster ability to get the eight or nine additional wins.

I’m also well aware that in Woody’s first two seasons many didn’t see a path after some adversity, yet IU got in, the second of those years as a four seed. Even last year they went a major win streak after all signs pointed to a train wreck. I think they won four of their last five conference games.

So it’s interesting as heck and tomorrow’s game is a barometer.

[Stuhoo 81,357]

11 hours ago, HoosierHoopster said:

What? What?!! You trust a man who doesn’t like percolated coffee??!! 

Stop trolling me.. ima gonna whine to the mods or sumthin 

2 hours ago, IUFAN1976 said:

Oh well, we all have our issues!  I don’t even like coffee!

Aye caramba

2 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Sacrilege 

#kumbaya

[Home Jersey 8,020]

58 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Yes he does know the national scene. Him and Delphi bracketology get press passes for most of the big ten schools. He has to watch more than just IU to be good at bracketology 

Having a press pass means diddly squat in terms of knowing what you’re talking about especially when it comes to bracketology 

[Scotty R 2,208]

2 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Having a press pass means diddly squat in terms of knowing what you’re talking about in terms of bracketology especially 

He has been a high school coach in Indiana for 20 years and knows the game. Delphi bracketology has been ranked one of the best in the bracket matrix. He does know what he did a talking about 

[Trish 11,622]

6 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

He has been a high school coach in Indiana for 20 years and knows the game. Delphi bracketology has been ranked one of the best in the bracket matrix. He does know what he did a talking about 

He does indeed, the 2016 champion in fact. 

 

http://www.bracketmatrix.com/rankings.html

[Hoosierfan2017 21,564]

Bracketolist or not, you don’t have to be one to see that sneaking into the tournament would be devastating for the program. Mike Woodson cannot be the head coach after this season. 

[Scotty R 2,208]

2 minutes ago, Trish said:

He does indeed, the 2016 champion in fact. 

 

http://www.bracketmatrix.com/rankings.html

What is funny from that list are these called experts like Lunardi rank so low. He ranks 128 and the CBS and Fox guys rank really low as well. Even though Tonsoni says that Andy Bottoms are the expert yet he ranks in the 60's and Tonsoni is 39

[Uspshoosier 46,032]

1 minute ago, Trish said:

He does indeed, the 2016 champion in fact. 

 

http://www.bracketmatrix.com/rankings.html

39th last year which is really good.  However projecting a   number of wins a team hypothetically needs to get in on Jan 3rd with over 2 months of basketball left is a hard ask.  Realistically no one should be talking bubble until after Valentine’s day.   Just not enough data to make a statement like that this early.   Although probably a  good talking point to put on a podcast about IU basketball. 

[JF87 1,503]

Retire/Fire Mike Woodson!

[IUFAN1976 3,301]

2 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

Yes that would be the case. That’s why I said hypothetically if IU got to 10 wins they would have multiple since 13 of their 17 remaining games are Q1 opportunities with the Purdue game at Assembly Hall right on the edge that could be 14 Q1 games left.   That’s all I’m saying.    If and thats a big if the got to 10 they would have to have won multiple Q1 games.   As a bracketologist I give the unbiased path IU has and give you the why they can make it going 10-10 however the invested IU fan in me  can tell you I don’t see the path.    I’m just better at looking at IU through the lense of an unbiased college basketball fan then others when doing bracketology 

Gotcha!  I’m not a bracketologist but I don’t see a path either.  I see 8 wins at best.  He water down the non-con and had a lot riding on the Bahamas.  I think Stuhoo and others are right, this is his last year because the water down non-con was by design to pad his win total, they didn’t care about quality wins at this point because if he doesn’t make the tournament, even with 18-20 wins, he can go out with an overall winning record who got us to the tournament twice, lol.  

[IUFAN1976 3,301]

2 hours ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Sacrilege 

Does tea count?

[HoosierHoopster 7,106]

3 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

Does tea count?

Maybe if there’s alcohol in it

:)

[IUFAN1976 3,301]

1 hour ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Bracketolist or not, you don’t have to be one to see that sneaking into the tournament would be devastating for the program. Mike Woodson cannot be the head coach after this season. 

I agree, and I don’t think he will!  I actually think he’s done at the end of the year whether he gets into the tournament or not.  I think what Stuhoo and some others have stated, I now think there is merit to this.  But I still don’t think he’s getting in

[Uspshoosier 46,032]

17 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

He water down the non-con and had a lot riding on the Bahamas.

Agree however the 2 non con wins he does have could still look good on a team sheet just got to see where Providence and South Carolina end up.   South Carolina plays in the Sec which means every game they play is a Q1 or Q2 game.   They are the lowest net sec team and they are 86.  If they clip some teams I could see their net going below 76 which would be that at a Q2.  Providence is a q2 right now and has a chance to move up to a Q1 however maybe both lose a bunch and those wins could go to a Q3.    See how silly talking about the bubble is in January.   February is a better time to start looking ahead to March.   January just too early to make a prediction on the bubble in my opinion 

[Hornsby 2,097]

Bracketolist or not, you don’t have to be one to see that sneaking into the tournament would be devastating for the program. Mike Woodson cannot be the head coach after this season. 

Yep for a team picked to finish 2nd it would be. I think probably want the king wants is a ceremony at center court his last game where he can be told he saved the program. He can give his I did my job speech and ride off filthy rich.

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[Hornsby 2,097]

Agree however the 2 non con wins he does have could still look good on a team sheet just got to see where Providence and South Carolina end up.   South Carolina plays in the Sec which means every game they play is a Q1 or Q2 game.   They are the lowest net sec team and they are 86.  If they clip some teams I could see their net going below 76 which would be that at a Q2.  Providence is a q2 right now and has a chance to move up to a Q1 however maybe both lose a bunch and those wins could go to a Q3.    See how silly talking about the bubble is in January.   February is a better time to start looking ahead to March.   January just too early to make a prediction on the bubble in my opinion 

Providence is currently 7-7 and just lost to Marquette by 30. My guess is they end up near the bottom of their conference.

 

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[IUFAN1976 3,301]

23 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Agree however the 2 non con wins he does have could still look good on a team sheet just got to see where Providence and South Carolina end up.   South Carolina plays in the Sec which means every game they play is a Q1 or Q2 game.   They are the lowest net sec team and they are 86.  If they clip some teams I could see their net going below 76 which would be that at a Q2.  Providence is a q2 right now and has a chance to move up to a Q1 however maybe both lose a bunch and those wins could go to a Q3.    See how silly talking about the bubble is in January.   February is a better time to start looking ahead to March.   January just too early to make a prediction on the bubble in my opinion 

Yes, a lot can change between now and the end of the year

[OKHOOSIER 2,531]

Providence is not a good team and isn’t going to make the tournament. SC also is not good, but may sneak in by virtue of the SEC. IMO, 10-10 isn’t gonna get it done for IU. We need 11-9 or 12-8 to be on the bubble, and it’s hard to look at our schedule left and see 10 wins left. 
 

With how soft our non-conference schedule was we had to have competent play in the Bahamas. I said it before but Mike Woodson has 5 wins against teams that finished in the AP Poll and three of those are Purdue. Only one of the five is on the road, also Purdue when they shot 21% from 3 and JHS went unconscious. Point being, Mike Woodson’s teams don’t win games as an underdog. It’s a hallmark of his tenure. There’s no reason to think that changes and we win games we shouldn’t with this team. We aren’t making the tournament. 
 

Beating Rutgers at home without their best player and letting their other best player drop 39 in AH is hardly cause for celebration. I’ve come around to believe it doesn’t matter if we sneak in the tournament, and he’s most likely gone either way. Time will tell. 

[Hoosierfan2017 21,564]

58 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I agree, and I don’t think he will!  I actually think he’s done at the end of the year whether he gets into the tournament or not.  I think what Stuhoo and some others have stated, I now think there is merit to this.  But I still don’t think he’s getting in

I simply have no faith in the administration that gave him a $1 million raise for making the tournament then firing him after making the tournament. 

[deserthoosier 14]

25 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I simply have no faith in the administration that gave him a $1 million raise for making the tournament then firing him after making the tournament. 

I understood that the raise was given so IU could spread a buyout to 1 million per year.