Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[AZ Hoosier 7,369]

1 hour ago, IUHAHN81 said:

Even if Woodson pulls something out of his rear this year, one decent/good year doesn't constitute keeping a coach that hasn't proven he's good enough to extend. Maybe I'm an a$$ but I don't care how many they win this year, he's not good enough. 

You're not an @$$ (or IF you are, you have a lot of us to keep you company :D )

But with Woodson, Buckner, Ferguson and the pockets (Cooks and Simons), logic does not appear to enter the equation... Apparently, the Parasite is still living a charmed life.

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I’d like to thank the Ferguson family, Steve and his whole family because he’s been a major mentor in my life; the Cook family, Bill who is no longer with us, known him for many, many years, and he was one of my early mentors, he and Gale Cook and Carl, just a beautiful family.

He has big backers. Ferguson won't turn on woodson.



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@IUHoosierJoe @go iu bb Ahh ok that does answer my question thank you.

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What blows my mind is watching old games and seeing how sweet the offense moved Woodson never learned a thing from knight. I get the game has changed but now but plenty of programs still have plenty of flow and off the ball stuff.

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[Hoosierfanyuh 2,284]

If we lose today woodsons first sentence will be about Malik being out, even if it’s fairly obvious that isn’t that case 

[IUFAN1976 3,286]

11 hours ago, Hornsby said:

Still blows my mind we have made it past the sweet 16 once since 1992. That is total incompetence from the administration at a school like iu.

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In the early 1990’s there was some unfortunate luck like Alan Henderson getting hurt.  Those teams were good enough to make it to the Final Four but a key injury here and there derailed that.  Then after 1995, players personalities changed toward BK and lost his recruiting edge, with the exception of the 2002 team other than that, it’s primarily the administration not wanting the IU basketball coach being bigger than the University and now we are stuck in mediocrity 

[IUFAN1976 3,286]

29 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

If we lose today woodsons first sentence will be about Malik being out, even if it’s fairly obvious that isn’t that case 

I think this team plays better without Malik and Ballo playing together.  The ball doesn’t stick with Ballo but it does with Malik.  His first move is always trying to score and take him too much time to start his move.  TJD would catch and look opposite or turn and go quickly.  With Malik, that comes down to poor coaching and not working with him.  He should always have multiple purposes on what to do when he gets it but it’s one move to try and score and then pass if that gets shut off.

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19 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

In the early 1990’s there was some unfortunate luck like Alan Henderson getting hurt.  Those teams were good enough to make it to the Final Four but a key injury here and there derailed that.  Then after 1995, players personalities changed toward BK and lost his recruiting edge, with the exception of the 2002 team other than that, it’s primarily the administration not wanting the IU basketball coach being bigger than the University and now we are stuck in mediocrity 

Ironically, Mighty Mike Woodson definitely sees himself as "bigger than the university". His refusal to do the job for which he was hired (recruiting, developing, coaching) are clearly evident. His refusal to do anything to help or assist the other athletic programs at IU are further evidence that he and his basketball program are superior to the rest of the Indiana athletic program. It's past time to toss this bum out on his @$$.

[Hoosierfan2017 21,548]

12 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Ironically, Mighty Mike Woodson definitely sees himself as "bigger than the university". His refusal to do the job for which he was hired (recruiting, developing, coaching) are clearly evident. His refusal to do anything to help or assist the other athletic programs at IU are further evidence that he and his basketball program are superior to the rest of the Indiana athletic program. It's past time to toss this bum out on his @$$.

But but how can this be? He loves IU so much! 

[IUFAN1976 3,286]

21 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Ironically, Mighty Mike Woodson definitely sees himself as "bigger than the university". His refusal to do the job for which he was hired (recruiting, developing, coaching) are clearly evident. His refusal to do anything to help or assist the other athletic programs at IU are further evidence that he and his basketball program are superior to the rest of the Indiana athletic program. It's past time to toss this bum out on his @$$.

I think we all see that but Knight put in the work, Woodson has absolutely done 3% of what Knight has done and that 3% is just showing up for the games. It could happen this year, MW skips a game to hang in their guys lodge, eating pizza, smoking cigars and drinking wine

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44 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I think this team plays better without Malik and Ballo playing together.  The ball doesn’t stick with Ballo but it does with Malik.  His first move is always trying to score and take him too much time to start his move.  TJD would catch and look opposite or turn and go quickly.  With Malik, that comes down to poor coaching and not working with him.  He should always have multiple purposes on what to do when he gets it but it’s one move to try and score and then pass if that gets shut off.

I’ve thought we often play better with Malik on the bench unless he’s playing the 5 which is pretty rare in his career. His inability to guard without fouling and poor rebounding for his size IMO are usually a net negative compared to his scoring. He is the quintessential ball stopper on offense. He either scores/gets fouled or turns it over. 
 

Are there times he’s the only person who can seem to get the ball to go through the basket? Absolutely. Probably an unpopular opinion but I don’t think that fact changes that he doesn’t make winning basketball plays. He’s 6-10 and has never averaged more than 6 rebounds a game. Now an argument could be made that’s because he never plays as much as he should since he averages close to 3 fouls per game. Either way, it’s bad. He averages more turnovers than assists. Now an argument could be made that’s because we can’t shoot so he loses potential assists from bricks. I dunno what my point is here, he’s just not a player I enjoy watching lol

[Hoosier DaDa 2,542]

On 1/4/2025 at 8:38 AM, Uspshoosier said:

Yes that would be the case. That’s why I said hypothetically if IU got to 10 wins they would have multiple since 13 of their 17 remaining games are Q1 opportunities with the Purdue game at Assembly Hall right on the edge that could be 14 Q1 games left.   That’s all I’m saying.    If and thats a big if the got to 10 they would have to have won multiple Q1 games.   As a bracketologist I give the unbiased path IU has and give you the why they can make it going 10-10 however the invested IU fan in me  can tell you I don’t see the path.    I’m just better at looking at IU through the lense of an unbiased college basketball fan then others when doing bracketology 

So what you are saying so everyone understands. If we win 10 games in the BIG @ least 3 if not more will be quad 1 wins.

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1 hour ago, OKHOOSIER said:

I’ve thought we often play better with Malik on the bench unless he’s playing the 5 which is pretty rare in his career. His inability to guard without fouling and poor rebounding for his size IMO are usually a net negative compared to his scoring. He is the quintessential ball stopper on offense. He either scores/gets fouled or turns it over. 
 

Are there times he’s the only person who can seem to get the ball to go through the basket? Absolutely. Probably an unpopular opinion but I don’t think that fact changes that he doesn’t make winning basketball plays. He’s 6-10 and has never averaged more than 6 rebounds a game. Now an argument could be made that’s because he never plays as much as he should since he averages close to 3 fouls per game. Either way, it’s bad. He averages more turnovers than assists. Now an argument could be made that’s because we can’t shoot so he loses potential assists from bricks. I dunno what my point is here, he’s just not a player I enjoy watching lol

Other than him playing for IU, I am not an overall fan. His offensive skills are very one dimensional and he is not a complete player skill wise.  To be honest, he’s probably not hurt, because it’s a win-win for MW.  If they win, it’s his coaching and if they lose, it’s because we didn’t have our one-dimensional leading scorer 

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15 minutes ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

So what you are saying so everyone understands. If we win 10 games in the BIG @ least 3 if not more will be quad 1 wins.

Correct as of today ius 15 of 17 games remaining are currently against NET top 50 teams.   Good chance 14 of those 17 end up Q1 so by default if IU won 10 conference games they would have multiple Q1 wins 

[Trish 11,619]

Fire Mike Woodson!

[Hoosierfan2017 21,548]

We’re so screwed. 

[Pagoda 523]

9 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

We’re so screwed. 

I fear we will find the zone of pain this year.  The team isn't achieving much for the NIL spent, but we make the tourney and Mike sticks around and ruins another season(s) of IUBB.

[Hoosierfan2017 21,548]

3 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

I fear we will find the zone of pain this year.  The team isn't achieving much for the NIL spent, but we make the tourney and Mike sticks around and ruins another season(s) of IUBB.

Seems very likely, imo. As Mike told Dolson, he’s the coach until he decides not to be. 

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Ohh this may be soon

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2 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

Correct as of today ius 15 of 17 games remaining are currently against NET top 50 teams.   Good chance 14 of those 17 end up Q1 so by default if IU won 10 conference games they would have multiple Q1 wins 

Still don't see it.

Penn St couldn't hit the Atlantic Ocean if they were standing on Daytona Beach.  3-20 from behind the arc, 58.8 % from the FT line. Why did they agree to play in the Palestra instead of home - it was a defacto IU home game with all the alumni from that area?

Woodson is forced to play without Reneau inside and they overall play better. They're still not good. The slide is coming; days like today only mask what is inevitable.