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34 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

A few things:

1. You suck.
2. I very much like your new sig line about how Robbie Hummel actually sucks.
3. I am old and bald-ish (strictly a style choice) but ran a 5k in under 30 min last weekend and hooped in the city park three weeks ago. So I am immature and bouncy in contradiction with my old-ness.
4. You suck.

 

Actual footage of Stuhoo denying he's old:

 

[Hovadipo 56,961]

13 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I am old and bald-ish (strictly a style choice) but ran a 5k in under 30 min last weekend and hooped in the city park three weeks ago. So I am immature and bouncy in contradiction with my old-ness.

Old man runs far kinda fast!

 

(jk...serious kudos from a strong hater of running)

[DChoosier 8,784]

2 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Well then it sounds like you and your friends are of the minority.

Ha

I don’t always guess correctly but I absolutely nailed it that you would only defend your position rather than appreciate a different (oldster) perspective.

 

[Class of '66 Old Fart 85,829]

11 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Indiana needs to evolve. Who doesn't want Indiana to evolve? The old farts on the BoT and old fart donors.

Damn good thing you didn't use capital letters or else I'd get the impression you were using my name in vain!

[Class of '66 Old Fart 85,829]

1 hour ago, Hovadipo said:

 

 

 

I'm 30 and have no input other than you guys are OLD. What was it like when they switched over to color TV?!

I can't hear you.  Wait until I turn the Victrola down.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,832]

13 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Nobody cares what the uniforms looks like or the court. As long as they don't go like Oregon's horrible uniforms or court

That's where you're wrong. People absolutely do care.

[LamarCheeks 19,659]

18 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

I can't hear you.  Wait until I turn the Victrola down.

Ha!

My brothers and I cleaned out our childhood home last year after our mom passed -- we had an old victrola in the basement. Had to crank it up to get the turntable to spin. Even had a handful of wooden needles for the stylus. Pretty cool antique.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,832]

15 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

Ha

I don’t always guess correctly but I absolutely nailed it that you would only defend your position rather than appreciate a different (oldster) perspective.

 

I don't need to defend it. We are watching it in real time. There isn't anything modern and up beat about the basketball program. Same jerseys for 70 years, basically the same court and a coach who looks like he's about to fall asleep half the time, who only got the job because his old fart friends wanted him to. And our coach is indeed an old fart who couldn't coach a modern way of basketball if his life depended on it. The program is stale and there isn't anyone in the administration or around it that wants to give the program any breath of fresh air and step into the 21st century.

[IUCrazy2 2,554]

3 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Well then it sounds like you and your friends are of the minority.

Most people of any age don't matter as much as the Top 10 donors and the BoT.  Lashing out at old people is misplaced anger.  (And I fall in your young category).

[DChoosier 8,784]

Just now, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

I don't need to defend it. We are watching it in real time. There isn't anything modern and up beat about the basketball program. Same jerseys for 70 years, basically the same court and a coach who looks like he's about to fall asleep half the time, who only got the job because his old fart friends wanted him to. And our coach is indeed an old fart who couldn't coach a modern way of basketball if his life depended on it. The program is stale and there isn't anyone in the administration or around it that wants to give the program any breath of fresh air and step into the 21st century.

You are missing the point.

Yes, the above is true but if you think it is to appease us you are wrong. You seem to have great confidence in your insight as to what oldsters think but I can assure you we don’t think we must have an assistant coach that can barely stay awake during games, or that the uniforms can’t change or that we need to stick to a certain brands etc etc.

The “dots” of the administration neglecting to evolve do not connect to being due to appeasing the oldsters. 

 

 

[IUCrazy2 2,554]

26 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

I don't need to defend it. We are watching it in real time. There isn't anything modern and up beat about the basketball program. Same jerseys for 70 years, basically the same court and a coach who looks like he's about to fall asleep half the time, who only got the job because his old fart friends wanted him to. And our coach is indeed an old fart who couldn't coach a modern way of basketball if his life depended on it. The program is stale and there isn't anyone in the administration or around it that wants to give the program any breath of fresh air and step into the 21st century.

There isn't anything wrong with the court or jerseys.  Even if you switch to Nike those jerseys are going to look really similar.  And why change them?  

On a basketball recruit's list of crap they care about, I bet jersey and court appearance aren't in the Top 20.  All of the hokey traditions or whatever are "super cool" if you are winning.  Chanting "Rock chalk, Jay Hawk" at every game is lame as hell.  If it was Northwestern doing it people wouldn't say it was a great basketball tradition, they would say it is stupid.

So all of that is to say that THE most important thing is winning.  If we were winning 70% of our games and going to the Sweet 16 and beyond regularly, you would think all the "classic" stuff about Indiana is cool.  Winning is the only thing that matters, this other stuff is just window dressing whose worthiness is judged almost completely on how the team performs.

[Dave from Dayton 3,345]

2 hours ago, Hovadipo said:

 

 

 

I'm 30 and have no input other than you guys are OLD. What was it like when they switched over to color TV?!

When I was your age...

I remember before we had black and white TVs.  Had this huge floor-standing radio that had vacuum tubes...before transistors.  

 I remember Sputnik and Echo.

I was driving a nuclear fast attack submarine in the north Atlantic and in the Mediterranean when I was 22.  

I remember Channel 4 and Sammy Terry.

I remember the old fieldhouse and saw George McGinnis and others there before RMK and AH.

But I water skied last year.  Ice skated last year...still have my skates.  Don't run, but I walk in a park even when the windchill is in single digits. Travelled to Portugal and Key West last year.   And last year I attended IU basketball games...both home and away (3 games).  Cut my own firewood. And I embrace change.  And support helping others than cannot help themselves.  Except for Purdue.

While I still hate the fact that basketball went to the 3-point shot...I understand and say get shooters to do that.  I also understand why the NCAA went to the 3.  It is because not everyone agreed with the RMK way of doing things.  Such as: "...can you guard?" And "Mental is the physical as 4 is to 1".  (I like the shot clock, though.) I miss his ability to figure out how to best take advantage of matchups. 

This team is not being put into positions to win

And winning is the thing.  Well, good sportsmanship and education, too.  

 

 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,832]

21 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

You are missing the point.

Yes, the above is true but if you think it is to appease us you are wrong. You seem to have great confidence in your insight as to what oldsters think but I can assure you we don’t think we must have an assistant coach that can barely stay awake during games, or that the uniforms can’t change or that we need to stick to a certain brands etc etc.

The “dots” of the administration neglecting to evolve do not connect to being due to appeasing the oldsters. 

 

 

I wasn't talking about our assistant coach. I was talking about Woody.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,832]

13 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said:

There isn't anything wrong with the court or jerseys.  Even if you switch to Nike those jerseys are going to look really similar.  And why change them?  

On a basketball recruit's list of crap they care about, I bet jersey and court appearance aren't in the Top 20.  All of the hokey traditions or whatever are "super cool" if you are winning.  Chanting "Rock chalk, Jay Hawk" at every game is lame as hell.  If it was Northwestern doing it people wouldn't say it was a great basketball tradition, they would say it is stupid.

So all of that is to say that THE most important thing is winning.  If we were winning 70% of our games and going to the Sweet 16 and beyond regularly, you would think all the "classic" stuff about Indiana is cool.  Winning is the only thing that matters, this other stuff is just window dressing whose worthiness is judged almost completely on how the team performs.

You mean like how people talk crap about striped pants? It isn't that there is a problem with the court or jerseys, but there is a problem with never changing because of "tradition" when any sort of winning tradition is gapped by a 3 decade period of mediocrity. Right now, striped pants are tied to mediocrity. Our jerseys are tied to mediocrity. Indiana basketball is mediocrity. It isn't winning. It isn't championships. It isn't making the tourney. It's losing. It's arrogance. It's ego. It's outdated. And there are zero plans to start something new.

[DChoosier 8,784]

11 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

I wasn't talking about our assistant coach. I was talking about Woody.

You are still missing the point…LOL

[Banksyrules 4,932]

8 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

You mean like how people talk crap about striped pants? It isn't that there is a problem with the court or jerseys, but there is a problem with never changing because of "tradition" when any sort of winning tradition is gapped by a 3 decade period of mediocrity. Right now, striped pants are tied to mediocrity. Our jerseys are tied to mediocrity. Indiana basketball is mediocrity. It isn't winning. It isn't championships. It isn't making the tourney. It's losing. It's arrogance. It's ego. It's outdated. And there are zero plans to start something new.

You leave the sacred candy striped pants allllllooooooooneeeee!

[Dave from Dayton 3,345]

6 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

You mean like how people talk crap about striped pants? It isn't that there is a problem with the court or jerseys, but there is a problem with never changing because of "tradition" when any sort of winning tradition is gapped by a 3 decade period of mediocrity. Right now, striped pants are tied to mediocrity. Our jerseys are tied to mediocrity. Indiana basketball is mediocrity. It isn't winning. It isn't championships. It isn't making the tourney. It's losing. It's arrogance. It's ego. It's outdated. And there are zero plans to start something new.

Not sure what this post is about except for being upset about losing.  

I saw IU beat Duke at Rupp in the elite 8 in 2002.  IU played in the Final game that year.  So that is two decades.

IU was atop the Big Ten with Tom Crean.   So that is one decade.  

Still, it is not good enough.  I will grant that.

I don't think that IU's problem is an unwillingness to change.  I think that it is an unwillingness to plan to win...and not having that plan, they won't win consistently.  

[Hovadipo 56,961]

23 minutes ago, Dave from Dayton said:

When I was your age...

I remember before we had black and white TVs.  Had this huge floor-standing radio that had vacuum tubes...before transistors.  

 I remember Sputnik and Echo.

I was driving a nuclear fast attack submarine in the north Atlantic and in the Mediterranean when I was 22.  

I remember Channel 4 and Sammy Terry.

I remember the old fieldhouse and saw George McGinnis and others there before RMK and AH.

But I water skied last year.  Ice skated last year...still have my skates.  Don't run, but I walk in a park even when the windchill is in single digits. Travelled to Portugal and Key West last year.   And last year I attended IU basketball games...both home and away (3 games).  Cut my own firewood. And I embrace change.  And support helping others than cannot help themselves.  Except for Purdue.

While I still hate the fact that basketball went to the 3-point shot...I understand and say get shooters to do that.  I also understand why the NCAA went to the 3.  It is because not everyone agreed with the RMK way of doing things.  Such as: "...can you guard?" And "Mental is the physical as 4 is to 1".  (I like the shot clock, though.) I miss his ability to figure out how to best take advantage of matchups. 

This team is not being put into positions to win

And winning is the thing.  Well, good sportsmanship and education, too.  

 

 

You're a treasure, Dave. I love this post.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,832]

1 minute ago, Dave from Dayton said:

Not sure what this post is about except for being upset about losing.  

I saw IU beat Duke at Rupp in the elite 8 in 2002.  IU played in the Final game that year.  So that is two decades.

IU was atop the Big Ten with Tom Crean.   So that is one decade.  

Still, it is not good enough.  I will grant that.

I don't think that IU's problem is an unwillingness to change.  I think that it is an unwillingness to plan to win...and not having that plan, they won't win consistently.  

And what about the rest of the years? We've made the tourney only about half the time since the turn of the century. But instead of embracing change and trying something new and different, it's just keep repeating "This is Indiana." We keep doing this and it isn't working.

[LamarCheeks 19,659]

8 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

And what about the rest of the years? We've made the tourney only about half the time since the turn of the century.

It's because of the candy stripe pants, our uniforms, the court and Adidas. They're to blame. 

If we didn't wear candy-stripe pants, wore different uniforms, had a funky, red court and wore Nikes -- we'd probalby have hung three extra banners by now. I'm sure of it! 

It has nothing to do with suspect hires or poor recruiting.