Coach Curt Cignetti to INDIANA

[Stuhoo 79,416]

1 minute ago, cthomas said:

We are, and rightfully so, the most bi-polar football fanbase ever. We worry about being able to get a good coach, finally hire one, and then worry about losing him three games into the season.

Not bi-polar - PTSD: 

• If things are bad we piss and moan. 
• If things are good we identify ways that will make things really bad again soon.

[AH1971 1,415]

I don't see Cignetti leaving IU after 1 year unless it's for a program that has legitimate means and resources to contend for a national championship nearly every single year. The only job likely to be open that remotely offers that is the Florida job. If Florida wants Cignetti there's likely nothing Dolson can do. But that's if Florida wants Cignetti. I'd think a lot of people would have to say no before Cignetti ever gets a call and Florida isn't really a job you say no to. On paper it's one of, if not the top job in college football. The board of regents have already met at Florida to work out Napier's $26 million buyout 3 weeks into the season, they aren't going to buyout Billy Napier just to hire Curt Cignetti. 

[Lebowski 2,398]

Even if Flordia wanted him, I don't think he leaves. He's here for a reason. He already left a job that he fully intending on retiring from. While Flordia is an enticing job he would be leaving a job that's in his full control with the backing of the administration. I doubt Florida admins would let go of the reins like he would demand. He's ours guys and we need to embrace this and support the poop out of his team. The only thing I'm 'worried' about is when Haines, Shanahan, Sunseri, etc. etc. go (because they will), will he hire the right coaches to fit in and win. But honestly, I'm not that worried. 

[cthomas 6,272]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

Not bi-polar - PTSD: 

• If things are bad we piss and moan. 
• If things are good we identify ways that will make things really bad again soon.

PTSD, no doubt. But I stand by my bi-polar, mood swings diagnosis.

[Scotty R 2,127]

This fan base can't ever just enjoy some success 

[J34 1,472]

This dudes a competitor and he loves a challenge. I see no reason for him(with his age) to want to be anywhere else than Bloomington Indiana, on a fall Saturday night, playing games that matter. Not many places in the country can replicate it. Unless he's always had a dream job in mind, Bloomington is the perfect place for him and his family. Only 3 games in and we're creating a national buzz, and now is when we start filling up the stadium and  showing recruits we're serious. This does nothing but help our basketball recruiting either. They love visiting during football season.

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2 hours ago, cthomas said:

We are, and rightfully so, the most bi-polar football fanbase ever. We worry about being able to get a good coach, finally hire one, and then worry about losing him three games into the season.

[Banksyrules 4,465]

I think he stays. This guy just thinks differently. He already knows how good he is.  I think he just wants to get a fair shot to compete at the college playoffs.   SEC right now has more football depth than we do so depending on the team, recruiting might actually too hard to come by.  Just my opinion.  We have to pay him accordingly though. 

[LamarCheeks 17,800]

Not taking anything away from the excitement Cigs has created.  

Hell, I'm pretty excited as well. 

But here's a little perspective. Bill Lynch's record after three games as IU's head coach: 3-0. 

 

[cthomas 6,272]

10 hours ago, LamarCheeks said:

Not taking anything away from the excitement Cigs has created.  

Hell, I'm pretty excited as well. 

But here's a little perspective. Bill Lynch's record after three games as IU's head coach: 3-0. 

 

Exactly right. We've had good starts before only to end up the same old IU football. However, other than coaching at IU, there is no similarity between Coach Lynch and Coach Cignetti.

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 8,857]

10 hours ago, LamarCheeks said:

Not taking anything away from the excitement Cigs has created.  

Hell, I'm pretty excited as well. 

But here's a little perspective. Bill Lynch's record after three games as IU's head coach: 3-0. 

 

With Hep's players. 

Kellen Lewis, Tracy Porter, Greg Middleton, Austin Thomas, Nick Polk... and James Hardy. 

We beat D1-AA IN St, squeaked by Western MI by 10 (they finished 5-7), didn't handle Akron (they finished 4-8) but won... 

Another W that season was Ball St, Iowa (they went 6-6), Minnesota (they were 1-11), and Purdue (8-5). 

[Stuhoo 79,416]

2 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

With Hep's players. 

Kellen Lewis, Tracy Porter, Greg Middleton, Austin Thomas, Nick Polk... and James Hardy. 

We beat D1-AA IN St, squeaked by Western MI by 10 (they finished 5-7), didn't handle Akron (they finished 4-8) but won... 

Another W that season was Ball St, Iowa (they went 6-6), Minnesota (they were 1-11), and Purdue (8-5). 

^^So ... more excellent perspective.^^

[Lebowski 2,398]

13 hours ago, LamarCheeks said:

Not taking anything away from the excitement Cigs has created.  

Hell, I'm pretty excited as well. 

But here's a little perspective. Bill Lynch's record after three games as IU's head coach: 3-0. 

Good football teams beat who they are supposed to beat pretty handedly. That wasn't the case with Coach Lynch. 

[TTT 880]

IU Football job opening:  Fortune Teller 

[RaceToTheTop 24,821]

14-2.  Went to the D1A championship game

7-1.  Went to the D1A semifinal.

12-2.  Went to the D1A semifinal.

Moved to D1.

Went 8-3.

Went 11-1.

 

He could have moved on from James Madison after any one of the five years he was there.  But he stayed as they transitioned to D1 and then moved on to IU after what I would consider to be completing the job at James Madison -- a top 25 team and into a bowl.  If anything, I'd say he left James Madison later than almost any coach would have given his success there.

[hoopsta007 386]

Pumping up Coach Cig for a bit to show how impressive his start has been, we haven’t trailed in any of the first three games and have had a lead for over 90% of the time.  Regardless of the schedule that is an amazing stat to me

[Lebowski 2,398]

15 hours ago, RaceToTheTop said:

14-2.  Went to the D1A championship game

7-1.  Went to the D1A semifinal.

12-2.  Went to the D1A semifinal.

Moved to D1.

Went 8-3.

Went 11-1.

 

He could have moved on from James Madison after any one of the five years he was there.  But he stayed as they transitioned to D1 and then moved on to IU after what I would consider to be completing the job at James Madison -- a top 25 team and into a bowl.  If anything, I'd say he left James Madison later than almost any coach would have given his success there.

To be fair, from what I understand most schools didn't want to "take a chance" on him because of his age. So I'm not sure he really had the opportunity to move on from JMU. I also read or heard on a podcast somewhere that Dolson needed to make a pitch to get him at IU. Something to do with NIL etc. etc.. I guess Coach Cig wasn't really interested in the job until Dolson promised the commitment Coach Cig wanted. I could be wrong though. 

What's awesome about the current situation is that we are seeing before our eyes a transformation on who to recruit from the transfer portal. The conventional thinking has been getting P4 players but he didn't really go that route. Instead he went after 'all-star' G5 players. I think this might be a paradigm shift of recruiting in the college football transfer portal that Coach Cig created. And that most likely goes back to him coaching at JMU for so many years. 

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14 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

What's awesome about the current situation is that we are seeing before our eyes a transformation on who to recruit from the transfer portal. The conventional thinking has been getting P4 players but he didn't really go that route. Instead he went after 'all-star' G5 players. I think this might be a paradigm shift of recruiting in the college football transfer portal that Coach Cig created. And that most likely goes back to him coaching at JMU for so many years.

Agree and I think this is another example to back up the thought that the gap between the absolute tippy top of P4 to the rest of P4 is much larger than the gap from regular P4 to G6 competition. We replaced a bunch of P4 JAGs (seriously, did we lose anyone that's absolutely tearing it up? Camper is doing ok I guess?) with a bunch of G6 dudes and the early returns are pretty spectacular.

[Magnanimous 4,454]

On 9/17/2024 at 10:38 PM, LamarCheeks said:

Not taking anything away from the excitement Cigs has created.  

Hell, I'm pretty excited as well. 

But here's a little perspective. Bill Lynch's record after three games as IU's head coach: 3-0. 

 

Our offense this year is a little more balanced than “James Hardy, go run 30 yards downfield. Kellen - either throw a jump ball to James or scramble after he opened the defense. Marcus Thigpen, don’t get killed running up the middle every ten plays.”

 

 

[hoopsta007 386]

3 minutes ago, Magnanimous said:

 Marcus Thigpen, don’t get killed running up the middle every ten plays.”

 

 

Like clockwork every single first down!