Coach Curt Cignetti to INDIANA... Forever and Ever, Amen!

[CSP]

Not that other staffs wouldn't be able to do this.. but one trip to Bloomington and the coaches had 3 of their favorites convinced to continue trusting them and go to IU. 

I have no idea what that means long-term but... I'm sure those kid felt honored to be made a priority. "First recruiting visit to IU".. type thing. 

Pat Kuntz played at Roncalli during their heyday, played at ND, and GA'ed here... if he says Landino is a guy... I'll roll with it. Cignetti has coached numerous QB to awards.. he says Mendoza is good enough, a guy we should like.. I'm inclined to believe him. 

[Scotty R]

Not a a ringing endorsement from Tyler Cherry about the old coaching staff.

It was definitely a different feel being down at IU this time,” Cherry said. “Their coaching staff made us feel right at home and put on a great presentation for us. Got to meet with Coach Cignetti, Coach Tino and Coach Shanahan and talk to those guys and talk football and it was a different feel down in Bloomington than before.”

[go iu bb]

8 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Not a a ringing endorsement from Tyler Cherry about the old coaching staff.

It was definitely a different feel being down at IU this time,” Cherry said. “Their coaching staff made us feel right at home and put on a great presentation for us. Got to meet with Coach Cignetti, Coach Tino and Coach Shanahan and talk to those guys and talk football and it was a different feel down in Bloomington than before.”

Landing him would be a nice start.

[Scotty R]

Just now, go iu bb said:

Landing him would be a nice start.

With us getting a QB commit today I wonder if it cause him to look elsewhere 

[MemphisHoosier]

1 minute ago, go iu bb said:

Landing him would be a nice start.

Ship may have sailed with Mendoza coming on board, unfortunately.  If nothing else, the optics and word of mouth should help with future in-state recruiting efforts.

[go iu bb]

3 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

With us getting a QB commit today I wonder if it cause him to look elsewhere 

 

2 minutes ago, MemphisHoosier said:

Ship may have sailed with Mendoza coming on board, unfortunately.  If nothing else, the optics and word of mouth should help with future in-state recruiting efforts.

It's not uncommon for P5 schools to bring in multiple QBs in a single class. If he doesn't think he can compete against and beat out Mendoza for the job, it's probably better for everyone.

[RaceToTheTop]

Glad to see Cignetti aggressively going after his former JMU recruits.  I remember when Archie Miller discouraged McKinley Wright from coming to IU.

[OGIUAndy]

1 hour ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Glad to see Cignetti aggressively going after his former JMU recruits.  I remember when Archie Miller discouraged McKinley Wright from coming to IU.

Seems like some JMU fans are not appreciative of this and that Cigs didn't publicly thank the school etc. To the point that some are actually making negative comments to recruits on social media. 

[Artie86]

27 minutes ago, OGIUAndy said:

Seems like some JMU fans are not appreciative of this and that Cigs didn't publicly thank the school etc. To the point that some are actually making negative comments to recruits on social media. 

What fans wouldn’t be upset? I would too, but that’s the nature of the business.  All those recruits committed to play for Coach Cignetti and his staff, JMU happened to be where they would go to school and play. I realize some universities help make player’s decisions because of what the school offers educationally. Speaking for Coach Cignetti, I wouldn’t change a thing! You lose an extremely popular coach and several highly anticipated recruits on top of that. Coach wants what he knows and what he thinks will help playing in the BIGTEN. 

[OGIUAndy]

45 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

What fans wouldn’t be upset? I would too, but that’s the nature of the business.  All those recruits committed to play for Coach Cignetti and his staff, JMU happened to be where they would go to school and play. I realize some universities help make player’s decisions because of what the school offers educationally. Speaking for Coach Cignetti, I wouldn’t change a thing! You lose an extremely popular coach and several highly anticipated recruits on top of that. Coach wants what he knows and what he thinks will help playing in the BIGTEN. 

I would be upset, but I would not go on Twitter and mock a high schooler. 

[cthomas]

To field a competitive team, you might have to hurt some feelings. We are in no position to be nice. CCC knows what he needs and he is going after it. He seems to have a bit of a rough edge. I'm good with that.

[bcp_jmu]

Hey Hoosier fans - I come in peace!

Glad to see the excitement over this hire - mixed feelings at JMU, but cannot deny that the man kept the winning going and took us through an incredible transition to FBS. CC has some serious swagger - the only real knock on him is that sometimes BIG moments scramble his brains a little (very weird TOs, clock management, and play calling on rare occasions). The phrase "don't get too cute" was thrown around his first couple years...if you know what I mean. The guy is world class at recruiting, eyeing talent, and getting other coaches on board. 

This interview that someone posted a few pages back is pretty spot on - good luck this year...we'll sorta be rooting for you.

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/qa-on-cu...orts-news/

 

 

[Stuhoo]

12 minutes ago, bcp_jmu said:

Hey Hoosier fans - I come in peace!

Glad to see the excitement over this hire - mixed feelings at JMU, but cannot deny that the man kept the winning going and took us through an incredible transition to FBS. CC has some serious swagger - the only real knock on him is that sometimes BIG moments scramble his brains a little (very weird TOs, clock management, and play calling on rare occasions). The phrase "don't get too cute" was thrown around his first couple years...if you know what I mean. The guy is world class at recruiting, eyeing talent, and getting other coaches on board. 

This interview that someone posted a few pages back is pretty spot on - good luck this year...we'll sorta be rooting for you.

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/qa-on-cu...orts-news/

 

 

Great first post! Glad to have you here.

How do you think Cig's recruiting style will shake out at Indiana? More specifically, at JMU he seems to have been recruiting for a big-time small school program, largely against other small schools. At Indiana he's at a very unsuccessful mega-school that plays much more successful mega-schools -- kinda the opposite. So does he try to fight against the big boys for recruits (and will he succeed at that) or does he try to do more with lesser recruits?

[bcp_jmu]

Thanks for the welcome! Really cringing at this "Purdue Jockstrap" label...but i'll have to post more... ;) 

Non-defensive comment - JMU isn't small...22,000 students (OK, compared to B1G schools...) but we aren't Holy Cross (see what I did there?)

I'd say this - it's a blend:

1) he's gonna get the most out of any kid that buys into the process - you'll hear that a lot from him. Trust the process, win each play, do your job. 

2) he's a very good promoter (tad too cocky for my taste...but ya'll need a boost) - any positive stat for the team, school, etc will be repeated and used in a smart way with recruits (for QBs, he'll say "look what I did with the last fourJMU QBs - compare their performance before and after my presence). All those QBs had incredible improvements - Cole Johnson, DiNucci, Centaio, McCloud

3) you'll start beating out some other P4 schools for recruits, but that's a slower ship to turn than squeezing the most juice out of what you have (and he's good at that)

Edited December 12, 2023 by bcp_jmu

[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, bcp_jmu said:

Thanks for the welcome! Really cringing at this "Purdue Jockstrap" label...but i'll have to post more... ;) 

Non-defensive comment - JMU isn't small...22,000 students (OK, compared to B1G schools...) but we aren't Holy Cross (see what I did there?)

I'd say this - it's a blend:

1) he's gonna get the most out of any kid that buys into the process - you'll hear that a lot from him. Trust the process, win each play, do your job. 

2) he's a very good promoter (tad too cocky for my taste...but ya'll need a boost) - any positive stat for the team, school, etc will be repeated and used in a smart way with recruits (for QBs, he'll say "look what I did with the last three JMU QBs - compare their performance before and after my presence). All those QBs had incredible improvements

3) you'll start beating out some other P4 schools for recruits, but that's a slower ship to turn than squeezing the most juice out of what you have (and he's good at that)

JMU is 22,000 students? Didn't realize it's a public university 'til now either - my bad!

Looking forward to the 'juice-squeezing-blend', to pick and choose your words.

[Hovadipo]

1 hour ago, bcp_jmu said:

1) he's gonna get the most out of any kid that buys into the process - you'll hear that a lot from him. Trust the process, win each play, do your job. 

Another welcome from me. Going to pick your brain a little more myself.

 

Regarding the quoted...he was pumping up a "player friendly" (or something along those lines) program early on; how they run practices, the logistics behind the scenes, etc. Any specific insight on this? I realize it may also have been out of the public eye for JMU fans, just wondering if there were any specifics on how he runs the show. For all the negatives about Allen - there were plenty - he also ran a very player-friendly program and I would say a large percentage of his players respected the hell out of him, but I would guess the 2 coaches' ideas of this are different.

[bcp_jmu]

12 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Another welcome from me. Going to pick your brain a little more myself.

 

Regarding the quoted...he was pumping up a "player friendly" (or something along those lines) program early on; how they run practices, the logistics behind the scenes, etc. Any specific insight on this? I realize it may also have been out of the public eye for JMU fans, just wondering if there were any specifics on how he runs the show. For all the negatives about Allen - there were plenty - he also ran a very player-friendly program and I would say a large percentage of his players respected the hell out of him, but I would guess the 2 coaches' ideas of this are different.

 

Many thanks. 

That's not a term we heard at JMU...Cig is oddly warm and fuzzy - runs deep but may not feel genuine to a 19 year old. Maybe he received some feedback on that front and is adjusting a bit? He's a CEO first...he'll tell a kid to his face "you were the best last year. you just lost three matchups in practice, and haven't hit the weight room, enjoy the bench until you earn your role back"

It's an odd term - any coach that is "player unfriendly" is certainly out of a job!

[Hovadipo]

6 minutes ago, bcp_jmu said:

It's an odd term - any coach that is "player unfriendly" is certainly out of a job!

Haha, touche. Just didn't know if that was regular press conference ammo or there was anything they had been doing. Appears it was the former. (Which is fine!)

[NashvilleHoosier]

2 hours ago, bcp_jmu said:

very weird TOs

My friend, Tom Allen had to take a timeout just last season, on the road at Nebraska, before a single second ran off the clock. Got the ball first, touch back on the kick off, so much confusion before even running a play he had to burn a timeout. This was after talking during the week about getting better starts to games. The most inconceivable of weird timeouts. No matter how weird Coach Cig's TOs have been during his JMU tenure, I don't need to know any details to be confident they won't sniff the weirdness of a Tom Allen timeout.

[bcp_jmu]

14 minutes ago, NashvilleHoosier said:

My friend, Tom Allen had to take a timeout just last season, on the road at Nebraska, before a single second ran off the clock. Got the ball first, touch back on the kick off, so much confusion before even running a play he had to burn a timeout. This was after talking during the week about getting better starts to games. The most inconceivable of weird timeouts. No matter how weird Coach Cig's TOs have been during his JMU tenure, I don't need to know any details to be confident they won't sniff the weirdness of a Tom Allen timeout.

LOL...oof, that's a face-palm right there Coach Allen....

Here is what you'll see sometimes - yourself yelling at the TV - "call a timeout. why no timeout? CALL A TIMEOUT!!"....

7 seconds later from the announcers...."coach Cignetti has called a timeout"

Again - I'm not trying to run the guy ragged, but you'll see "too cute" - against NDSU in the championship we are running it on them. i mean, all over them...so he abandons it and switches to pass happy (in *advance* of them adjusting...). We lost.

 

Edited December 12, 2023 by bcp_jmu