Coach Curt Cignetti to INDIANA

[iuthruandthru 110]

14 hours ago, Josh said:

Turns out Matt Canada was the best part of this horrendous Steelers team.  He's an IU football guy, are there any openings left on Cig's staff?

Unfortunately Canada will always get the blame

 

[J34 1,472]

[Rico 2,990]

5 minutes ago, J34 said:

[MemphisHoosier 2,048]

22 minutes ago, J34 said:

I would expect some good news in the next 24 hours coming out of this weekend...

[Stuhoo 79,735]

1 hour ago, J34 said:

So UM and OSU should now officially be worried?

yahoooooooooooooo!!!!

[Class of '66 Old Fart 83,982]

1 hour ago, Rico said:

Surely it will be better than what we've had the past several years.

 

[Hardwood83 4,746]

23 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Surely it will be better than what we've had the past several years.

 

Or more like this? 

[rcbowla 7,024]

I'm getting a little worried that every transfer/recruit we're getting is a JMU player/offer. I'm fine with some of the roster being made up with this caliber player but we're going to need some B1G level players as well. I just don't see a SBC roster competing in the B1G.

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10 minutes ago, rcs29 said:

I'm getting a little worried that every transfer/recruit we're getting is a JMU player/offer. I'm fine with some of the roster being made up with this caliber player but we're going to need some B1G level players as well. I just don't see a SBC roster competing in the B1G.

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We've gotten 2 recruits and a Wake Forest transfer, calm down some. James Madison would have whipped our behinds last year and a lot of those kids were initially recruited as FCS players.

[Hoosierfan2017 20,920]

32 minutes ago, rcs29 said:

I'm getting a little worried that every transfer/recruit we're getting is a JMU player/offer. I'm fine with some of the roster being made up with this caliber player but we're going to need some B1G level players as well. I just don't see a SBC roster competing in the B1G.

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I’m a little concerned too when you add in the fact that most of our staff is going to be made up of JMU guys too. Like, look, I understand the benefits of continuity and working with guys you’ve worked with in the past. But the Big 10 is multiple steps up from the Sun Belt and we were the worst team in the conference last year, so we need some big improvements. 

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41 minutes ago, rcs29 said:

I'm getting a little worried that every transfer/recruit we're getting is a JMU player/offer. I'm fine with some of the roster being made up with this caliber player but we're going to need some B1G level players as well. I just don't see a SBC roster competing in the B1G.

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It's called the low hanging fruit.  Locking up the players you already know, who you think can compete in the Big10 is the first step.  Takes time to review and evaluate the 100s of players you'll need to go thru.  

[Class of '66 Old Fart 83,982]

2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I’m a little concerned too when you add in the fact that most of our staff is going to be made up of JMU guys too. Like, look, I understand the benefits of continuity and working with guys you’ve worked with in the past. But the Big 10 is multiple steps up from the Sun Belt and we were the worst team in the conference last year, so we need some big improvements. 

I hear what you're saying but our program is so far in the tank I don't think it's reasonable to expect a new roster mostly comprised of B1G caliber recruits flocking to IU with a completely new coaching staff.  IF he can put a competitive product on the field next fall and in my wildest dreams become bowl eligible, then the level of our recruits should experience an uptick next year.

[rcbowla 7,024]

We've gotten 2 recruits and a Wake Forest transfer, calm down some. James Madison would have whipped our behinds last year and a lot of those kids were initially recruited as FCS players.

Not 100% convinced they would have whipped our behinds. They beat 3-9 Virginia by one point and honestly probably should've lost that game. Allen would've fumbled it away, no doubt, but to act like they were superior to IU in talent is absolutely not the case.

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28 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I’m a little concerned too when you add in the fact that most of our staff is going to be made up of JMU guys too. Like, look, I understand the benefits of continuity and working with guys you’ve worked with in the past. But the Big 10 is multiple steps up from the Sun Belt and we were the worst team in the conference last year, so we need some big improvements. 

I definitely don’t think there are many JMU guys who are Big Ten caliber (and we’ve only added two, so it’s not like the staff seems to think so anyway).

 

That being said, I’m not sure what JMU has to do with the coaching staff. Football X’s and O’s are the same regardless of conference. 

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1 hour ago, rcs29 said:

I'm getting a little worried that every transfer/recruit we're getting is a JMU player/offer. I'm fine with some of the roster being made up with this caliber player but we're going to need some B1G level players as well. I just don't see a SBC roster competing in the B1G.

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Probably a little late into this recruiting cycle to go out and get many players he has no connection to.

[OGIUAndy 759]

9 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Probably a little late into this recruiting cycle to go out and get many players he has no connection to.

Exactly. I am not sure what people's expectations are in regards to HS recruits for 2024. He's literally been the coach at IUFB for two weeks. I assume he knows the guys he's bringing from JMU are capable of playing at IU. One thing CCC doesn't seem to be is naive. Regardless, the main influx of new players for next year is probably coming from the portal. But just because he's bringing in some JMU players and recruits to help fill in holes doesn't mean he's only going to be recruiting SBC level talent in the future. Realistically he and his staff can only bring in players they have any sort of relationship with now. 

[rcbowla 7,024]

Probably a little late into this recruiting cycle to go out and get many players he has no connection to.

I won't disagree with that but there are portal opportunities and more NIL$ to play with.

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[rcbowla 7,024]

Exactly. I am not sure what people's expectations are in regards to HS recruits for 2024. He's literally been the coach at IUFB for two weeks. I assume he knows the guys he's bringing from JMU are capable of playing at IU. One thing CCC doesn't seem to be is naive. Regardless, the main influx of new players for next year is probably coming from the portal. But just because he's bringing in some JMU players and recruits to help fill in holes doesn't mean he's only going to be recruiting SBC level talent in the future. Realistically he and his staff can only bring in players they have any sort of relationship with now. 

I guess my expectation is to have heard of some higher caliber players we are showing interest in from the portal. Haven't really seen that yet. To be clear I think we got a good coach and believe we will be improved. At the same time, as of now, I have a little concern with the level of talent we are trying to get. Both things can be true. There is plenty of time to get better players and I'm not arguing that either.

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38 minutes ago, rcs29 said:

I guess my expectation is to have heard of some higher caliber players we are showing interest in from the portal. Haven't really seen that yet. To be clear I think we got a good coach and believe we will be improved. At the same time, as of now, I have a little concern with the level of talent we are trying to get. Both things can be true. There is plenty of time to get better players and I'm not arguing that either.

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There's still a lot of stuff going on. I think we'll start to see more commits and withdraws and probably more guys leaving. So the next few weeks will be interesting. My expectations are pretty low for next season to be honest. I love CCC's moxie, but he's basically cleaning house. So the low hanging fruit are the JMU  players/recruits he thinks are Big Ten capable. But I finally believe we have a guy who really knows what he's doing organizationally. Not only has been the head guy at a couple of schools, he's also been the "new coach" in town. So I am optimistic he knows what has to take place the first days, weeks, and months taking over and the decisions that have to be made both easy (bringing coaches/players/recruits you trust or have a prior relationship with) and hard (letting coaches/players/recruits go that don't fit the shorter and longer term goals) and every thing in between. But this stuff is all very fluid. But it's nice to trust or at least believe that they have a guy who seems to know what he's doing. 

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28 minutes ago, rcs29 said:

I guess my expectation is to have heard of some higher caliber players we are showing interest in from the portal. Haven't really seen that yet. To be clear I think we got a good coach and believe we will be improved. At the same time, as of now, I have a little concern with the level of talent we are trying to get. Both things can be true. There is plenty of time to get better players and I'm not arguing that either.

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I get it, and hope over time we see some better recruits commit. Some of those JMU recruits did have other FBS offers; Landino had offers from Rutgers, Temple, UMASS, and UCONN.