Coach Curt Cignetti to INDIANA

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25 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

It’s a clear indication that we had no one in place as the next hire with only the final details to be worked out, when we fired Allen.

I think we’ve been using this firm for a couple of weeks but was just leaked to Osterman today. Either they are doing background checks or our top candidates have said no.

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2 minutes ago, maharkn said:

He can call me and I'll coach the team for six figures. Who's joining my staff

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This guy.

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2 hours ago, Lebowski said:

Here's the thing though, even throwing all the money in the world at it doesn't guarantee or raise your chances of success. The most consistent thing about IUFB is how incredibly bad it's been throughout its entire history. Case in point, Mallory is considered one of the best coaches IUFB has ever had. Dolson could hire Jesus Christ himself and even he could struggle with this program. If anything, whoever is the next coach at IUFB will more than likely be fired due to lack of winning, just like every other IUFB coach throughout its entire history. Because history says so. 

The most logical thing to do however, is hiring someone that has a proven record. Someone that has had success at not only winning but has experience at building a culture of winning. It takes someone and a backing to start that culture. Unfortunately trying to hire someone like this is a giant mountain to climb because these kind of people know right away if the job is right for them. It's a two way street and these people know how to ask the right questions during the interview process. They know right away if they'll have the backing they'll need to build that culture. That's why I still think we'll end up with a coordinator when this is all said and done. And if that's the case, hopefully we end up hiring the next Barry Alvarez. 

This is all fair.  Honestly I would be ok with an offensive coordinator from a solid team.  I think IU needs that type of culture build.  Need a big time feel to come in and lift the program up.

 

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2 hours ago, GoIU8 said:

What support did Tom Allen have in 2019 and 2020 that he somehow didn't have from 2021-2023? 

Ask Dylan Powell. But, IU has never truly supported or cultivated the football program 

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4 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think we’ve been using this firm for a couple of weeks but was just leaked to Osterman today. Either they are doing background checks or our top candidates have said no.

This is what I'm afraid of. 

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8 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think we’ve been using this firm for a couple of weeks but was just leaked to Osterman today. Either they are doing background checks or our top candidates have said no.

Is there anyone that would take the job if it were presented? Out of your short list of names

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2 minutes ago, cbp4iu said:

Is there anyone that would take the job if it were presented? Out of your short list of names

I’m not sure to be honest but the two coaches who are out of a job would want the it if offered if I was guessing.

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I’m very curious how much IU is willing to spend on the next coach as that will be part of why first list candidates may turn down IU

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22 minutes ago, Demo said:

Not sure what constitutes “the beginning” but that is a relief.

JMO, but I would guess they started putting their feelers out right after the Michigan St loss. 

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2 minutes ago, iuthruandthru said:

I’m very curious how much IU is willing to spend on the next coach as that will be part of why first list candidates may turn down IU

….or with this new hire, they are not only looking to pay a higher competitive HC salary, but also making sure his assistant coaches are paid well enough to want to stay long term…. 

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People trying to track flights.

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Gruden is the guy! He will be hungry to restore his name ad a person and coach in a second chance type thing. His name still has star power and he knows how to coach. We are the worst team I'm the history of division 1. What is the worst that could happen? He is the guy you make say no imo

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Better a search committee than a Fred Glass who hires the first guy whose office he surfs past on his way to pick up his Hawaiian button down from the dry cleaners. 

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1 hour ago, Golfman25 said:

How much you spending?  

IU has a ton of obstacles to overcome for football.  The biggest is it's lack of any history of success.  You're not going to be able to buy your way out of that history.  You need to build it one brick at a time.  You need a coach that can set the foundation and build a program from there.  But good players want to play for a winner.  So you have to figure out how to win with what you got.  That's 100% coaching. Sure support him, build facilities and whatnot.  But if he can't win a football games because he's a moron -- i.e.; makes all sorts of in game coaching errors -- it's not going to matter.  

There is no history of success because the university doesn't care about football. If that's not obvious, I don't know what to say. While I agree with your premise of laying the foundation and all of that, it is a moot point if the university doesn't make football every bit the priority that basketball has historically been. It really is as simple as that. What coach of any stature would WANT to come here given the lackadaisical support that this program has had? Answer? Nobody. That's why you get the names we've had, and will continue to have. Football is the bastard stepchild, and until the powers that be decide to change that mentality, nothing else matters.

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Honestly, these are exciting times! I know our coach was fired and the transfer portal is filling up with IU players, but a new era is afoot. IMO, Dolson and the boosters are really going to try make a statement hire. 

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I’m wondering if Fitzgerald is now a serious candidate and if the search committee approves a deeper background check because his history that Pamela would sign off on it. 

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9 minutes ago, hoosierfan84 said:

There is no history of success because the university doesn't care about football. If that's not obvious, I don't know what to say. While I agree with your premise of laying the foundation and all of that, it is a moot point if the university doesn't make football every bit the priority that basketball has historically been. It really is as simple as that. What coach of any stature would WANT to come here given the lackadaisical support that this program has had? Answer? Nobody. That's why you get the names we've had, and will continue to have. Football is the bastard stepchild, and until the powers that be decide to change that mentality, nothing else matters.

If they don’t care why do the end zone projects?  Why enclose the stadium? Why give TA a crazy extension?  You could probably say we don’t care enough but you can’t say they don’t care at all. 

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6 minutes ago, hoosierfan84 said:

There is no history of success because the university doesn't care about football. If that's not obvious, I don't know what to say. While I agree with your premise of laying the foundation and all of that, it is a moot point if the university doesn't make football every bit the priority that basketball has historically been. It really is as simple as that. What coach of any stature would WANT to come here given the lackadaisical support that this program has had? Answer? Nobody. That's why you get the names we've had, and will continue to have. Football is the bastard stepchild, and until the powers that be decide to change that mentality, nothing else matters.

….I’m gonna look on the brighter side. I honestly don’t think Dolson wants or plans to go middle of the road a lateral hire. This is totally my opinion…. He feels the heat as well as Indiana University. We can’t continue to lose money in football ticket sales if we continue to lose games. Yes, I IU football has been less than desirable for  not only top players, but coaches alike. I really think we will see a lot more money thrown around with this new hire and his staff. JMO

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54 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Hiring Turnkey can be spun one of two ways -- or both:

1.  It's a positive sign that they are making sure to get the right hire by turning over all rocks -- something they didn't do when they gave the keys to Tom Allen and just did the quick hire in house thing.

2.  It's a negative sign in that it means they don't feel like they have their guy and had to turn to a firm to help.

Don't know which it is.

I'm hoping #1.

It's a positive that Dolson realizes he can't do it himself so he's seeking assistance from those with experience.