Stuhoo Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Last off-season distraction thread: Let’s hear your five player “if only they hadn’t got hurt” team. The rules? NOT someone who was a big success but missed time at IU (so May’s broken arm and Henderson’s knee are off limits). We’re talking about a player who never reached their arguably very high potential because of chronic injuries. My five? Glen Grunwald Pat Graham DeRon Davis James Blackmon Jr. and Mo Creek rayl456 1 Quote
Hovadipo Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Probably doesn’t belong above any of the guys on your list, but I don’t think we got anything resembling the real De’ron Davis. Also, if JBJ is eligible, Romeo is too imo. thebigweave and southsidehoosier 2 Quote
Redcamaro Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Landon Turner!! Tom White and Class of '66 Old Fart 2 Quote
Dave from Dayton Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Logan Duncomb - sinus surgery Larry Bird - feelings hurt Sherron Wilkerson - butted heads with RMK Tommy Baker - OD'd on paraquat Delray Brooks - swollen feet * Mostly snark... HoosierHoopster, OliviaPope40, Stuhoo and 2 others 2 3 Quote
hoosierdogg Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Todd Meier, on the 87 NC team, but seems like he always wore a knee brace. Tom White 1 Quote
Hornsby Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Last off-season distraction thread: Let’s hear your five player “if only they hadn’t got hurt” team. The rules? NOT someone who was a big success but missed time at IU (so May’s broken arm and Henderson’s knee are off limits). We’re talking about a player who never reached their arguably very high potential because of chronic injuries. My five? Glen Grunwald Pat Graham DeRon Davis James Blackmon Jr. and Mo CreekPriller???Sent from my SM-A146U using Tapatalk go iu bb, OliviaPope40, Dave from Dayton and 1 other 4 Quote
TTT Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Ray Pavy (auto off season) (L. Turner already had success) Glenn Grunwald Devin Davis Jay Edwards (though successful I would classify him not reaching his potential due to what I will put in miscellaneous category) same result as injury. Mo Creek Quote
Class of '66 Old Fart Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Landon Turner is the #1 on this type of list. Glen Grunwald Mo Creek Jeff Oliphant's knee. Stories were he regularly beat Alford in games of horse. Brian Sloan. Seems like he was always hobbled by back problems. Honorable mention - Dan Dakich's inflamed a$$hole. go iu bb, Tom White, mamasa and 4 others 2 5 Quote
Scotty R Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Grunwald Turner P. Graham Creek Deron Davis Quote
Stuhoo Posted October 9, 2023 Author Posted October 9, 2023 Turner is an outlier. He was on the National Championship all-tournament team, so while he never realized a consistent version of his full potential, he did get through his junior year uninjured and by then was one of top players in the country. My underrated pick for the ‘Captain’ of this group? Pat Graham. He never played on good legs his whole four years. Can you imagine? Knight gave him real game minutes and he basically wasn’t able to practice. Pat Graham on good legs was a Randy Wittman clone—a 15 year NBA player. cthomas 1 Quote
HoosierHoopster Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Mo -- Very much agree with including Mo Creek as everyone is doing, that kid had so much scoring ability and it was just taken from him. He's my #1, both because he's absolutely in my top 5 no matter who I pick, but also for how that first knee injury came right after his frosh point explosion and was so clearly highway robbery of his ability. Big time outlier - EJ. Gordon was phenomenal for us, and maybe can't include him just because of his record-setting scoring at IU, but the what if came after his wrist injury in February or so IIRC -- he couldn't shoot the 3 after that injury, really about half the season and we lost in the NCAA tourney in part because of it. His NBA career was marred for many years with repeat injuries. He's still a great player, really a testament to his overcoming the injuries -- but man, an injury-free EJ through the tourney? I mean we were 24-4 before Sampsongate. Pat Graham. What a force of nature. If only. Turner I'll say Romeo. I don't know if he had the motor, but the talent was next level. J34 and Stuhoo 2 Quote
ledies22 Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 completely different scenario and not committed, but Ben Wilson...? Quote
Stuhoo Posted October 9, 2023 Author Posted October 9, 2023 55 minutes ago, TTT said: Ray Pavy (auto off season) (L. Turner already had success) Glenn Grunwald Devin Davis Jay Edwards (though successful I would classify him not reaching his potential due to what I will put in miscellaneous category) same result as injury. Mo Creek Had to look up Ray Pavy! As you said, tragic car accident after his sophomore season, but as a player that averaged 2.5 ppg in zero starts when healthy, he’s a footnote who’s not on my list. Here’s another one: the legendarily love/hate that was Bracey Wright. (Stay with me here) In fact, Bracey is near the top of this list for me: the first three months of his freshman year he was pretty much five star unstoppable—40% from three, efficient, and hyper-athletic. Then he hurt his back, badly. He faded while playing with the injury the last two months of his freshman year, had back surgery, and was never athletic or efficient again. A real shame. Dave from Dayton, thebigweave and TTT 3 Quote
Stuhoo Posted October 9, 2023 Author Posted October 9, 2023 Romeo is interesting—he was playing almost exclusively with his right hand, and then had to do so with torn ligaments in his right thumb. No bueno. Dave from Dayton 1 Quote
Dave from Dayton Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Yogi Ferrell may just have been the best PG at Indiana since Isiah 'Zeke' Thomas. Another record setter...so he just may not qualify. However, he got his bell rung at least twice and other injuries...his back and his thumb. I noticed that he was a step slower in his junior and senior years as compared to his freshman and sophomore years. Just didn't quite have the edge that would have made such a difference. Frustrating to fans and to Yogi...no doubt. Don't get this wrong. I thought he was great. Just off enough in performance that it was noticeable. Why? Was it the team? I really thought it was the noggin got hurt repeatedly. It just may well have been his back. Well, and he was short. And the team..and Tom Crean...jeez, it was stacked against Yogi...opponents really did slam him. Big Ten is a grind...each and every game...for Yogi...4 years of taking punishment. Too mas? Quote
TTT Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 41 minutes ago, Stuhoo said: Had to look up Ray Pavy! As you said, tragic car accident after his sophomore season, but as a player that averaged 2.5 ppg in zero starts when healthy, he’s a footnote who’s not on my list. Here’s another one: the legendarily love/hate that was Bracey Wright. (Stay with me here) In fact, Bracey is near the top of this list for me: the first three months of his freshman year he was pretty much five star unstoppable—40% from three, efficient, and hyper-athletic. Then he hurt his back, badly. He faded while playing with the injury the last two months of his freshman year, had back surgery, and was never athletic or efficient again. A real shame. High school shootout last game of regular season in Newcastle gym Ray Pavy 51 points vs Jimmy Rayl 49 points in New Castle win over Kokomo 92 - 81. (1959) Tom White 1 Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Mo Creek De'Ron Davis Jerome Hunter Romeo Langford Rob Phinisee All of them were in about a 10 year span.. but I think it could compete for a B1G title with the potential they had without injuries. Dave from Dayton 1 Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 5 hours ago, Dave from Dayton said: Logan Duncomb - sinus surgery Larry Bird - feelings hurt Sherron Wilkerson - butted heads with RMK Tommy Baker - OD'd on paraquat Delray Brooks - swollen feet * Mostly snark... You totally missed Neil Reed......neck injury. Also Devin Davis -- collision with teammate. Hollywood Mike Miranda, WayneFleekHoosier, Tom White and 3 others 4 2 Quote
Parakeet Jones Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 Andrae Patterson. He was never consistent after hurting his knee against Kansas. Great moments, but not consistently as great as I believe he could have been. I always thought he seemed permanently tentative after his injury. Dave from Dayton, thebigweave and str8baller 3 Quote
maharkn Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 Eric Gordon and Dj white Sent from my Pixel 6a using Tapatalk Quote
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