Hoosierfan2017 Posted October 31, 2024 Posted October 31, 2024 1 hour ago, OldBuddy67 said: Happy for Him!! The fact he is in South Bay and Bronny is up with the Lakers is a joke! JHS is 10 times the player Bronny is........... Do you not realize that (a) the G League season hasn’t even started yet and (b) the Lakers have already said that Bronny will be spending the season in the G League? BtownStrength 1 Quote
BtownStrength Posted October 31, 2024 Posted October 31, 2024 31 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: The Lakers are a great spot for guards to develop (Caruso, Reaves, Knecht is already getting rotation minutes). JHS just isn’t very good. He isn’t a good shooter and has bad athleticism. He was drafted on potential/physical measurements but that only gets you so far. JHS needs to develop his skills to an NBA level, as like you said he is minus athlete in the pros.. Idk how much people watch him, but he seems lost in the speed of the game. Injury certainly didnt help. He is still young and hope he can figure it out. But so far he had not been great. Hoosierfan2017 1 Quote
OGIUAndy Posted October 31, 2024 Posted October 31, 2024 1 hour ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: Do you not realize that (a) the G League season hasn’t even started yet and (b) the Lakers have already said that Bronny will be spending the season in the G League? I really don't give two ***** about Bronny nor that they drafted him; it's a feel good story and LeBron's team. But the contract they gave him was not deserved nor normal, basically just giving him $7M. And any playing time he gets is also not deserved, at all. He's been terrible. Obviously they are not going to play him any meaningful games, but it's basically charity to allow him on an NBA roster with a guaranteed contract. OldBuddy67, mamasa, JerryYeagley23 and 1 other 4 Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted October 31, 2024 Posted October 31, 2024 16 minutes ago, OGIUAndy said: I really don't give two ***** about Bronny nor that they drafted him; it's a feel good story and LeBron's team. But the contract they gave him was not deserved nor normal, basically just giving him $7M. And any playing time he gets is also not deserved, at all. He's been terrible. Obviously they are not going to play him any meaningful games, but it's basically charity to allow him on an NBA roster with a guaranteed contract. Sure, but I really don't see what Bronny’s contract has to do with JHS… Quote
DChoosier Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 18 hours ago, BtownStrength said: Yeah tend to agree. He was not ready for the NBA, but hard to turn down that money. He could have dropped after an extra year and not received guaranteed contract. I'm rooting for JHS, and injuries certainly have robbed him of development time. But right now he is a G league player until he develops shot making/creating. Seems like a great kid, and I hope he works hard on his game. He will always be beloved for his time here,especially torching the Boilers in Mackey. That Purdue game made JHS some $$$$$$. Beating the number 1 team (or whatever PU was at the time) on the road and playing a great game, which was very visible nationally, helped his stock. That being said, it should have been obvious that he torched PU by being able to easily get to his spots (which would not happen in the NBA) to hit mid-range shots against young, not very athletic, PU guards. That performance was great but not indicative of NBA success. Wish him the best, as he has been a visible supporter of IU, but he really needs to develop a shot, overcome his injuries, etc etc to stick in the league. Hope he does so but I won’t be surprised to see him overseas (which isn’t exactly shabby if in one of the top tier leagues). BtownStrength 1 Quote
Lebowski Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 15 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: Sure, but I really don't see what Bronny’s contract has to do with JHS… I have no dog in this fight. But aren't they essentially playing the same position? Like would they be fighting each other for playing time? I don't know because I don't really pay that much attention to this stuff. I just casually watch the NBA. If that's the case one could argue JHS is the better option for the organization as far as his contribution to production value. I guess the better question is what was JHS's contract? Did he get the same type of contract? If JHS didn't than it makes a world of difference because many think, myself included, LeBron James' son is not ready for the NBA at all. And honestly, he might never be ready for the Association. I could be wrong and hope that I am because I hate to see failure. But man, that kid has a ton of pressure to even be an average player because of his dad. Quote
Demo Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 A perfect example of the tiny margin of error for players with an array of solid traits but no special ones. If he finds the right org to develop and get established with he can be a 10 year rotational piece the way Thomas Bryant has been able to do and if not he’ll make a very nice living in China. Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 1 hour ago, Lebowski said: I have no dog in this fight. But aren't they essentially playing the same position? Like would they be fighting each other for playing time? I don't know because I don't really pay that much attention to this stuff. I just casually watch the NBA. If that's the case one could argue JHS is the better option for the organization as far as his contribution to production value. I guess the better question is what was JHS's contract? Did he get the same type of contract? If JHS didn't than it makes a world of difference because many think, myself included, LeBron James' son is not ready for the NBA at all. And honestly, he might never be ready for the Association. I could be wrong and hope that I am because I hate to see failure. But man, that kid has a ton of pressure to even be an average player because of his dad. Since JHS was a first round pick, his salary was set by the rookie scale. His contract was 4 years/$17,882,808, with the first two years guaranteed and team options for the last two years. The Lakers used the second-round pick exception on Bronny, which lets teams sign second rounders to multi-year deals without counting against the cap until July 31 of their rookie season. His contract is 4 years/$7.7 million, with the first two years guaranteed, the third year partially guaranteed, and a team option the fourth year. Bronny is more of a 2 guard (even though he’s the size of a 1), so I don’t think he’d be competing with JHS for playing time. I don’t think anyone, including LeBron, thinks Bronny is capable of playing NBA rotation minutes at this point, and he won’t. He’ll be down in the G League this season. The 55th pick in the draft is a small price to pay to keep your franchise player happy. We’ve seen something similar with the Bucks having Giannis’s brother on the team for the past 5 seasons. Who knows if Bronny develops into an NBA player one day. Time will tell. If he doesn’t, that won’t be much different than most of the other 55th picks in NBA history. BtownStrength, Stuhoo and Lebowski 3 Quote
DChoosier Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 After 2 years JHS will have made approximately 7.5 million. After 2 years Bronny will have made approximately 3.1 million (I also hear that his family has some money). In 5 games Bronny has played a total of 8 minutes while JHS is at zero. Both will get plenty of G-League time. The Lakers turned down JHS’s 3rd year which would have only cost them a paltry, by NBA standards, 4 million. I think it will be a tough road for him to catch on with another NBA team but he is young and I wish him the best. We will see. J34 1 Quote
Lebowski Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 @Hoosierfan2017 @DChoosier Thanks for sharing. Appreciate it. I'm oblivious to this kind of stuff. And it's abundantly clear. I'll just kindly remove myself from the conversation here. You can find me in the IUFB section if y'all need me. ;-) Cheers. DChoosier and J34 2 Quote
BtownStrength Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 2 hours ago, DChoosier said: After 2 years JHS will have made approximately 7.5 million. After 2 years Bronny will have made approximately 3.1 million (I also hear that his family has some money). In 5 games Bronny has played a total of 8 minutes while JHS is at zero. Both will get plenty of G-League time. The Lakers turned down JHS’s 3rd year which would have only cost them a paltry, by NBA standards, 4 million. I think it will be a tough road for him to catch on with another NBA team but he is young and I wish him the best. We will see. To your last paragraph, LA not seeing much of a future with JHS is certainly a big part of the equation. He has not impressed. But declining the option also makes him an expiring contract and more likely he is thrown in as salary filler in a trade. I would expect JHS on a different team at the deadline. Stuhoo 1 Quote
Stuhoo Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 JHS left young, but unlike other college players that left very early, when the weakness in your game is quickness and athleticism, it is hard to improve that with a degenerative back condition. DChoosier 1 Quote
str8baller Posted February 2, 2025 Posted February 2, 2025 JHS is traded in one of the biggest trades in NBA history! I always knew he’d be a star… Home Jersey, BtownStrength, mamasa and 3 others 4 2 Quote
OliviaPope40 Posted February 2, 2025 Posted February 2, 2025 13 minutes ago, str8baller said: JHS is traded in one of the biggest trades in NBA history! I always knew he’d be a star… I miss the Woj bombs with Shams it's not as fun. mamasa 1 Quote
Demo Posted February 2, 2025 Posted February 2, 2025 1 hour ago, str8baller said: JHS is traded in one of the biggest trades in NBA history! I always knew he’d be a star… Danny Ainge doing Danny Ainge things: Ainge: “ What’s the most under-valued asset on either of those rosters?” Personnel guy: “Well, they’ve got a 20yo 6’6” lottery pick PG who they’ve buried.” Ainge: “Oh yeah, that’ll do it.” Napleshoosier, sirhoosierlot and str8baller 3 Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted February 2, 2025 Posted February 2, 2025 2 hours ago, OliviaPope40 said: I miss the Woj bombs with Shams it's not as fun. I'm happy with zero bombs. I hope Shams just gets fired and banned from social media. I want zero bombs. Only surprises. Makes everything better. All the leaks make it boring. OliviaPope40 and WayneFleekHoosier 2 Quote
OliviaPope40 Posted February 2, 2025 Posted February 2, 2025 1 hour ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said: I'm happy with zero bombs. I hope Shams just gets fired and banned from social media. I want zero bombs. Only surprises. Makes everything better. All the leaks make it boring. Shams is not really my favorite. mamasa 1 Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted February 2, 2025 Posted February 2, 2025 31 minutes ago, OliviaPope40 said: Shams is not really my favorite. I want em all gone. Watching the draft is probably that absolute worst experience imaginable because you know everything well before it ever happens. Quote
OliviaPope40 Posted February 2, 2025 Posted February 2, 2025 46 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said: I want em all gone. Watching the draft is probably that absolute worst experience imaginable because you know everything well before it ever happens. The mock drafts they do aren't even right either. The top five is too predictable. Loaded Chicken Sandwich 1 Quote
BtownStrength Posted February 2, 2025 Posted February 2, 2025 On 11/1/2024 at 2:30 PM, BtownStrength said: To your last paragraph, LA not seeing much of a future with JHS is certainly a big part of the equation. He has not impressed. But declining the option also makes him an expiring contract and more likely he is thrown in as salary filler in a trade. I would expect JHS on a different team at the deadline. Gonna pat myself on the back for this call. I do hope it works out for JHS and he finds a role. Quote
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