Magisterium Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 Interesting that Allen made the move before the stretch that includes Maryland and Rutgers and MSU instead of post-season makes me think that after last season Allen may believe he needs to win at least 1 or 2 more conference games this season or his own seat could get warm next year Quote
maharkn Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 Dude is getting paid $330,000 to not coach anymore. How can someone that bad at their job make that much money Sent from my Pixel 6a using Tapatalk Alford Bailey 1 Quote
LamarCheeks Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 21 minutes ago, Magisterium said: Interesting that Allen made the move before the stretch that includes Maryland and Rutgers and MSU instead of post-season makes me think that after last season Allen may believe he needs to win at least 1 or 2 more conference games this season or his own seat could get warm next year Allen's seat won't get hot anytime soon. If he's fired before Dec. 1, 2024, he's owed his full remaining contract -- which runs through 2027 and is worth about $5M a year. That means if fired after this year, he's owed roughly $25M. If fired in 2023, it's $20M. If he's fired after Dec. 1, 2024 -- he's owed 50% of his remaining contract. So if he's canned after the 2024 season, he'd be owed about $7.5M. The school really painted itself into a corner with that deal. Good work -- if you can get it. MemphisHoosier and Alford Bailey 2 Quote
HoosierTrav Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said: Allen's seat won't get hot anytime soon. If he's fired before Dec. 1, 2024, he's owed his full remaining contract -- which runs through 2027 and is worth about $5M a year. That means if fired after this year, he's owed roughly $25M. If fired in 2023, it's $20M. If he's fired after Dec. 1, 2024 -- he's owed 50% of his remaining contract. So if he's canned after the 2024 season, he'd be owed about $7.5M. The school really painted itself into a corner with that deal. Good work -- if you can get it. Wow…. This is TERRIBLE! Chris007 1 Quote
go iu bb Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said: Allen's seat won't get hot anytime soon. If he's fired before Dec. 1, 2024, he's owed his full remaining contract -- which runs through 2027 and is worth about $5M a year. That means if fired after this year, he's owed roughly $25M. If fired in 2023, it's $20M. If he's fired after Dec. 1, 2024 -- he's owed 50% of his remaining contract. So if he's canned after the 2024 season, he'd be owed about $7.5M. The school really painted itself into a corner with that deal. Good work -- if you can get it. I hope after this IU will actually spend money on a coaching search then pay good money to hire a good coach. That would be a big departure from the usual going cheap on a coaching search then overpaying a mediocre to bad coach and dishing out a bunch of money to fire them. Quote
Alford Bailey Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 22 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said: Allen's seat won't get hot anytime soon. If he's fired before Dec. 1, 2024, he's owed his full remaining contract -- which runs through 2027 and is worth about $5M a year. That means if fired after this year, he's owed roughly $25M. If fired in 2023, it's $20M. If he's fired after Dec. 1, 2024 -- he's owed 50% of his remaining contract. So if he's canned after the 2024 season, he'd be owed about $7.5M. The school really painted itself into a corner with that deal. Good work -- if you can get it. Fred Glass, right? Quote
Alford Bailey Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 You know how you are not supposed to make big life altering decisions after a traumatic experience? Indiana decided that was a good time to bet the farm….. HoosierX 1 Quote
Magisterium Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 22 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said: Allen's seat won't get hot anytime soon. If he's fired before Dec. 1, 2024, he's owed his full remaining contract -- which runs through 2027 and is worth about $5M a year. That means if fired after this year, he's owed roughly $25M. If fired in 2023, it's $20M. If he's fired after Dec. 1, 2024 -- he's owed 50% of his remaining contract. So if he's canned after the 2024 season, he'd be owed about $7.5M. The school really painted itself into a corner with that deal. Good work -- if you can get it. I’m aware of Allen’s buyout numbers and hope the new TV rights money can help if a coaching change becomes necessary although Dolson makes it sound like that increased payout to the schools won’t be available right away Quote
Magisterium Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said: Fred Glass, right? Dolson, actually Alford Bailey and Demo 2 Quote
LIHoosier Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Magisterium said: I’m aware of Allen’s buyout numbers and hope the new TV rights money can help if a coaching change becomes necessary although Dolson makes it sound like that increased payout to the schools won’t be available right away Next year will be a marginal increase. It goes up by something like 50% once UCLA/USC join. IUc2016 1 Quote
Magisterium Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, LIHoosier said: Next year will be a marginal increase. It goes up by something like 50% once UCLA/USC join. It would go up by a good deal more than 50% if Notre Dame would join but I guess they’re just too darned special for that Quote
HoosierX Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 7 hours ago, LamarCheeks said: It's too bad it took CTA this long to realize what was inevitable. If memory serves, there was speculation here that one of the reasons McCullough left for South Bend was Hiller's ineptitude and Allen's reluctance to address it. Granted, he may have gone to Notre Dame regardless, but still ... This was almost certainly a thing and almost certainly f’ed us over Quote
KzooHoosier82 Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 8 hours ago, LamarCheeks said: It's too bad it took CTA this long to realize what was inevitable. If memory serves, there was speculation here that one of the reasons McCullough left for South Bend was Hiller's ineptitude and Allen's reluctance to address it. Granted, he may have gone to Notre Dame regardless, but still ... It’s not a secret McCullough left because of Hiller and his run game coordinator role. Deland didn’t leave the KC Chiefs because he wanted a “lateral” gig at a place like Notre Dame. He came to IU because his family liked Bloomington, CTA offered him an opportunity to be AHC (putting him in a position to get to HC position in the future) and coach his kids. I said this when it happened, and I’ll say it again. This was a massive mistake by CTA and is likely to eventually cost him his job unless he can find a way to redeem himself. Dolson has to be fuming and I’d bet anything, without his buyout, CTA would be sent packing in the off-season. CSP, thebigweave, Chris007 and 1 other 3 1 Quote
DChoosier Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 3 hours ago, LamarCheeks said: Allen's seat won't get hot anytime soon. If he's fired before Dec. 1, 2024, he's owed his full remaining contract -- which runs through 2027 and is worth about $5M a year. That means if fired after this year, he's owed roughly $25M. If fired in 2023, it's $20M. If he's fired after Dec. 1, 2024 -- he's owed 50% of his remaining contract. So if he's canned after the 2024 season, he'd be owed about $7.5M. The school really painted itself into a corner with that deal. Good work -- if you can get it. Yep. So he will most likely be around for the rest of this season, next season and the season after. I hope he turns things around as he did have two of the best seasons IU has had in decades. I’m not saying I’m convinced he is the guy but it would be great for all if things work out. We will see. Quote
ap2345 Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 12 hours ago, Magisterium said: Dolson, actually Well Glass hired him. Dolson gave him the extension. Which at the time was the right move. IU was coming off an 8-4 season and other schools were looking to hire Allen. It just should’ve been a little bit better in terms of buyouts in case things went bad. Quote
TTT Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 Years late and a dollar short. Is this the famous Jim Carey? A good move. Grasping for straws. Buying time. Hoping for the best. Bottom line….Almost all these guys have eventually walked away without being in the poor house whatever they leave behind whether good or bad. Quote
CSP Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 13 hours ago, maharkn said: Dude is getting paid $330,000 to not coach anymore. How can someone that bad at their job make that much money Sent from my Pixel 6a using Tapatalk Because in the grand scheme of coaches... he's still a damn good one? Quote
Chris007 Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 14 hours ago, Magisterium said: Interesting that Allen made the move before the stretch that includes Maryland and Rutgers and MSU instead of post-season makes me think that after last season Allen may believe he needs to win at least 1 or 2 more conference games this season or his own seat could get warm next year I think we will see some improvement immediately. Not a ton but some. If we have any bowl hopes this move had to be done, really should have been 2-3 weeks ago. Lebowski and thebigweave 2 Quote
HoosierX Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, btownqb said: Because in the grand scheme of coaches... he's still a damn good one? And yet no one is going to pay him anywhere near that amount moving forward, so how good is he really? Quote
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