(2024) - PG Boogie Fland to Kentucky

[JSHoosier]

3 minutes ago, TeeterInNJ said:

To land multiple 5 stars in the fall, I think we're gonna need at least one S16 run under our belt. To ngw's point... this program is building back from a deep hole. Feels similar in a way to Brian Kelly resurrecting ND football. You gotta produce on the field/court to land a deep and talented class consistently year after year. Final thought of the night. 

Looking forward to Boogie shocking the world tomorrow lol

And to make runs you typically need the talent. Then it's kind if a chicken or egg scenario. So you need to have an outstanding coach that can make the team better than it's pieces long enough, or a top notch recruiter that can land the talent to carry them.

[Hornsby]

We have the NIL to pull it off. Gotta find the guys. With hardly any left it’s portalszn. I’m telling y’all McNeeley was expecting this 3 man class as well. Maybe we still get Queen. I imagine we can find a Boogie type talent in the transfer portal too but we better build a top 25 preseason team. We are trying to build a top 10 team just can’t quite get the horses. I honestly kinda feel bad for McNeeley in this. Recruited 2 guys during his own commitment.


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I hope he doesn't back out.

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[Aaron]

1 minute ago, Hornsby said:

I hope he doesn't back out.

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There is zero chance McNeely backs out. Everyone nationally has been saying all along IU would win the McNeely recruitment and lose the others. McNeely knew he might be going at this alone and that has been a real possibility based on everyone's sentiment. McNeely may have committed HOPING to bag the other two but he knew it was possible he might be only one.

Don't let losing out on Boogie give you that irrational thought.

[Hornsby]

There is zero chance McNeely backs out. Everyone nationally has been saying all along IU would win the McNeely recruitment and lose the others. McNeely knew he might be going at this alone and that has been a real possibility based on everyone's sentiment. McNeely may have committed HOPING to bag the other two but he knew it was possible he might be only one.
Don't let losing out on Boogie give you that irrational thought.

Was basing it on the post that said liam expected a three man class.

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[Aaron]

16 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

We have the NIL to pull it off. Gotta find the guys. With hardly any left it’s portalszn. I’m telling y’all McNeeley was expecting this 3 man class as well. Maybe we still get Queen. I imagine we can find a Boogie type talent in the transfer portal too but we better build a top 25 preseason team. We are trying to build a top 10 team just can’t quite get the horses. I honestly kinda feel bad for McNeeley in this. Recruited 2 guys during his own commitment.


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Don't feel bad for a 5* kid who made a choice where he KNEW he might be alone for now.

McNeely is not backing out. I swear every bit of bad news IU gets leads to our fans thinking program is doomed and every bit of good news will lead to banner 6. The truth lies in between. Things are never as good or as bad as they seem in the moment and everyone for good reason is acting emotionally right now. 

[iubb]

We are doooooooooooomed

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[Home Jersey]

7 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

And to make runs you typically need the talent. Then it's kind if a chicken or egg scenario. So you need to have an outstanding coach that can make the team better than it's pieces long enough, or a top notch recruiter that can land the talent to carry them.

I think Woodson can get the most out of this roster. If we can show recruits you can win here and go on deep runs, we'll be very tough to recruit against. Have total confidence that by March, Woodson gets the most out of Ware.
 

I really like the big three of Ware, Mgbako, and X this season. If Gallo stays close to same percentage on higher volume and CJ shows a big improvement from last year, we can be really dangerous.
 

I'm honestly too excited for this year to be worried/bummed about next seasons roster. With the portal and spring being fruitful under this staff, this isn't the end of the world. For sure will sting though if he goes to pUKe

[Aaron]

3 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Was basing it on the post that said liam expected a three man class.

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No one including me has any clue what Liam was 'expecting'. I am just using logic based on what has been happening all fall.  

[Hornsby]

And here we go again. always you and Brass. 

let me clarify, I was told prior to Trilly, maybe 30 minutes, it was UK. Can send you screenshot for my interrogation.  Didn’t want to believe it. It made zero sense with everything else. Still doesn’t honestly. Then Trilly etc.
why is it a joke they do that? It is supposed to be a prediction based on knowledge they have and it is their freaking job. you should be able to look at their success rate and see how connected they are. They all changed them within five minutes of Trilly. So unless you think a back channel SOS went out directly from Boogie to all Rivals and 24/7 to ruin his announcement, yeah, they changed it based on Trilly to help their stats. 
my guess (no knowledge, just logic) - he used us. We were last visit, we lined up NiL this week, etc. he took that information to Cal and Cal said I will match or outdo any offer. staff was confident because we were in communication but he was just using it to better his UK deal. Cal then says, here is the offer but you have to take it right now. You hang up and think, it is gone. Seen it in sales many times.  That is how you can still be little slimmy in NiL era. Pressure the hell out of a kid. 
hey, couple guys flipped same day in last 2 months. Could always go back with one over the top offer. I have used that to success in these sales type situations before but Woodson has said he doesn’t want guys like that so probably done. 

Sounds like it was always Kentucky were we just used as leverage.

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[Hoosierfan1901]

3 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Sounds like it was always Kentucky were we just used as leverage.

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Leverage you say?

 

(I had to do it)

[JSHoosier]

5 minutes ago, TeeterInNJ said:

I think Woodson can get the most out of this roster. If we can show recruits you can win here and go on deep runs, we'll be very tough to recruit against. Have total confidence that by March, Woodson gets the most out of Ware.
 

I really like the big three of Ware, Mgbako, and X this season. If Gallo stays close to same percentage on higher volume and CJ shows a big improvement from last year, we can be really dangerous.
 

I'm honestly too excited for this year to be worried/bummed about next seasons roster. With the portal and spring being fruitful under this staff, this isn't the end of the world. For sure will sting though if he goes to pUKe

I still have reservations on Woodson, and I've said before you don't hire someone his age expecting a long rebuild.

You don't want to be in a position of having to count on Spring.  You don't know what will be available but you also don't know what you'll lose.

[Home Jersey]

1 minute ago, JSHoosier said:

I still have reservations on Woodson, and I've said before you don't hire someone his age expecting a long rebuild.

You don't want to be in a position of having to count on Spring.  You don't know what will be available but you also don't know what you'll lose.

Well... good thing they roll the balls out and season starts in what 9 or 10 days til Indy exhibition? Im so ready for some IUBB. 

[IUCrazy2]

Few things:

1.  Can we wait for the pick before we all lose our ****?

2.  I know people have "info" and that is all well and good but I think almost everyone's info up until the point where a kid reaches out to a school and says "I am going to pick you..." is pretty much just conjecture.  Some dude posts gifs and memes on Twitter (X) and has people flipping out one way or the other.  Just assume that no one knows anything and stop getting your hopes up based on internet speculation.

 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

No one including me has any clue what Liam was 'expecting'. I am just using logic based on what has been happening all fall.  

I listened to his and his families interviews. He wants to play in the NBA and he wants to have a chance at playing for a national title. His uncle/grandfather was saying a queen, McNeeley, Givens/Fland class should make us a top 10 team.

 

I’m not saying he is going to decommit or anything crazy like that, but he committed with the notion we are building a top 10 team. And maybe we will.

 

 

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[HoosierTrav]

1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

When Trilly made that tweet about New York Guard(s) having dramatic recruitments, it was pluralized for a reason. That was the night, he knew. And same with his protege Noah.

Also, Cal had just visited Boogie in New York. Woody was about to go and the camp announced no more visits before he came the last time. The signs have been there.


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Agreed. Yea leaves were UK all along. I don’t buy for a minute that we were leading going onto this week. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Agreed. Yea leaves were UK all along. I don’t buy for a minute that we were leading going onto this week. 

Not the end all be all, but he didn’t take a Senior Official visit either.


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[rcbowla]

All I have to say is I hope Gabe Cupps becomes the next Ryan Arcidiacono and everyone hoping for him to be recruited over eats their words. How hilarious would it be for him to lead us to a title while Fland spends one season at UK averaging 8 and 3 and goes to NBA after UK loses in an 8/9 tournament game?



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[HoosierTrav]

1 minute ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Not the end all be all, but he didn’t take a Senior Official visit either.


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Listen to his interviews. He wanted to play for Cal. He knew all of the recent guards that played for him and had success. Stinks bc winning these types of recruitments are how you build that type of resume with the future kids. Woodson has done an amazing job in the portal and in late recruitments, so I’m not going to be upset over it.

  

[RaceToTheTop]

43 minutes ago, Ngw7183 said:

And here we go again. always you and Brass. 
 

Must be hard being such a martyr.  If you knew anything about this board, Brass and I basically agree on nothing, so when we do, it's probably pretty evident.

You've basically came on to this site and made three high level recruit predictions:  Ledlum, MM, and Fland to IU.  You've been wrong twice, and every time you are wrong it starts with the 'I was right, but what ha-happened was......'  

The act gets old and stale.  

It would be one thing if you were simply offering us information.  Chris007 does that all of the time.  The difference is that he offers it up as such -- just information he has had.  You chastise people who doubt your methodology and when it doesn't work, you get defensive and preemptively pull the victim card.

I appreciate the information, whether the recruit ends up here or not.  I don't appreciate your viewpoint that everyone else is just throwing darts out there and your misses were because of some unlucky gust of wind.

[RaceToTheTop]

15 minutes ago, HoosierTrav said:

Listen to his interviews. He wanted to play for Cal. He knew all of the recent guards that played for him and had success. Stinks bc winning these types of recruitments are how you build that type of resume with the future kids. Woodson has done an amazing job in the portal and in late recruitments, so I’m not going to be upset over it.

  

He won't be the last recruit we really, really wanted that goes elsewhere if he does indeed announce Kentucky tomorrow as is expected.  MM won't be the last recruit we get that we didn't envision happening just a month prior.  Live and learn.  Anyway, HH tomorrow.  2024-2025 season is a long way away....2023-24 is just around the corner.