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[HoosierHoopster 6,961]

The Hulls - Leal comparison is apples and oranges.
Hulls was a lead guard, recruited as a tough point with a tight handle, great court vision. His shooting was a plus, but he was recruited to run point.

Leal’s a 2. Both were 3 to 4 stars, fwiw, Hulls was ranked higher both nationally and in state, though we’re talking difference between low 100’s and around 150. 
Hulls was more ready than AL — and I like AL, absolutely has a spot on the team. It’ wasn’t just who else was on the team it was Hull’s floor vision, sure it took him some time to adjust like most HS - frosh points, but man that kid could could direct play. 
AL has toughness, he moves the ball, and he is a strong shooter, i think his role will grow as he gets stronger, he wasn’t really ready physically imo, but he is a guy i see heloing the guys around him and he brings energy. 

[Alford Bailey 12,373]

39 minutes ago, HinnyHoosier said:

 

But do you agree a guy like Leal who is willing to work for it could easily improve that shot and be an asset? And he has more physical ability to develop and be serviceable defensively if you’re going to compare him to Roth.



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He’s been here two years on teams begging for guard play. Not gonna get much better.

[Alford Bailey 12,373]

15 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

The Hulls - Leal comparison is apples and oranges.
Hulls was a lead guard, recruited as a tough point with a tight handle, great court vision. His shooting was a plus, but he was recruited to run point.

Leal’s a 2. Both were 3 to 4 stars, fwiw, Hulls was ranked higher both nationally and in state, though we’re talking difference between low 100’s and around 150. 
Hulls was more ready than AL — and I like AL, absolutely has a spot on the team. It’ wasn’t just who else was on the team it was Hull’s floor vision, sure it took him some time to adjust like most HS - frosh points, but man that kid could could direct play. 
AL has toughness, he moves the ball, and he is a strong shooter, i think his role will grow as he gets stronger, he wasn’t really ready physically imo, but he is a guy i see heloing the guys around him and he brings energy. 

Hulls was a 2 guard on a team ranked #1 for a good part of the season.

[Alford Bailey 12,373]

46 minutes ago, btownqb said:

I know that. Neither of those #s change that AL is a better all around player then Hulls... outside of Hulls incredible trait. 

AL is 6-7in taller, longer, way more athletic. He has just as good basketball IQ, shocker with both playing under JR Holmes.... he rebounds better. Absolutely better defensively, holy cow. 

I absolutely love Hulls, but don't allow his 3pt shooting to cloud your memory of the rest of his game. 

Leal is a perfect 12-13 guy. Its honesty irrelevant, he isn't leaving. 

You got the last sentence right. He isn’t leaving. Probably here 5 years.

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,093]

12 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

Hulls was a 2 guard on a team ranked #1 for a good part of the season.

Hulls was a 2, I agree. You are letting his 3pt shooting to cloud the rest of his game though. Hulls isn't D1 if he shoots 30%. AL still would be. Not that 30% should be any sort of a goal lol 

Idk what to tell you man. Have you ever coached before? I'm not implying anything I'm asking. 

[Stuhoo 80,504]

Hey all—

A good discussion but please remember the topic.

If someone wants to start a player comparison thread? Go for it.

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,093]

Just now, Alford Bailey said:

You got the last sentence right. He isn’t leaving. Probably here 5 years.

RS and give him 6! 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,093]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

Hey all—

A good discussion but please remember the topic.

If someone wants to start a player comparison thread? Go for it.

Thought we were in the roster protection thread. I think it would fit under there. Honest mistake on my part, I apologize 

 

[HoosierHoopster 6,961]

9 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

Hulls was a 2 guard on a team ranked #1 for a good part of the season.

He played off ball and on with Yogi, but it was 2 primary ball handlers — he was a point coming out of HS and at IU

[Stuhoo 80,504]

6 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Thought we were in the roster protection thread. I think it would fit under there. Honest mistake on my part, I apologize 

 

Looks like you’re a recent new participant in what kinda transitioned to the Leal/Hulls comparison thread lol

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

1 hour ago, btownqb said:

I know that. Neither of those #s change that AL is a better all around player then Hulls... outside of Hulls incredible trait. 

AL is 6-7in taller, longer, way more athletic. He has just as good basketball IQ, shocker with both playing under JR Holmes.... he rebounds better. Absolutely better defensively, holy cow. 

I absolutely love Hulls, but don't allow his 3pt shooting to cloud your memory of the rest of his game. 

Leal is a perfect 12-13 guy. Its honesty irrelevant, he isn't leaving. 

I agree that Leal has a role on the team.

I find it interesting that you didn't include ball handling nor passing in your all around player comparison. The bottom line is the trait Hulls had in spades is the exact trait this team needs which is probably the reason the comparison started (?). The all around player Leal is couldn't get him in the rotation with older players that really lacked all around games this past season. If he can become a sniper he'll find minutes on just about any college team.

[IU - Kaulie 1,891]

1 hour ago, Alford Bailey said:

He’s been here two years on teams begging for guard play. Not gonna get much better.

Completely disagree.

Leal will continue to get better and improve because he’s a gym rat and he will put the work in.  He greatly improved from last season to this season.  Make no mistake, kid loves IU and loves being here but he sees himself as more than an end of the bench guy.  He wants playing time and I think he will earn it.

[Bowhunter 2,693]

Hulls could start on this team.

I don’t know how him and Leal are even in the same sentence. 
 

Only knock on Hulls was his defense. Other than that he was a really good college basketball player on a high scoring team.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,627]

2 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Hey all—

A good discussion but please remember the topic.

If someone wants to start a player comparison thread? Go for it.

Polite reminder.

[cbp4iu 1,462]

Who leaves next?

[iu eyedoc 1,955]

5 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Hey all—

A good discussion but please remember the topic.

If someone wants to start a player comparison thread? Go for it.

Anthony Leal is as sure a bet to not enter the transfer portal as Jordan Hulls would be to be the best 3pt shooter even with his eyes closed if he were on this team this season.  There you go back on topic. You're welcome.

[Golfman25 5,330]

23 minutes ago, cbp4iu said:

Who leaves next?

Trace to explore NBA options.  

[yogisballin 2,328]

Who leaves next?

That’s what I asked this morning…anyone have any idea who they “expect” to leave next and why?


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[yogisballin 2,328]

Trace to explore NBA options.  

I figured that he would probably go and get some feedback. Will hear what woody has been telling him for a year now. Needs a jumper and being able to finish with his right hand and over left shoulder.


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[Chris007 43,908]

34 minutes ago, yogisballin said:

That’s what I asked this morning…anyone have any idea who they “expect” to leave next and why?


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My guess is Race.