Ooooook who’s your # 2?

[Stuhoo]

7 minutes ago, Zachetology said:

Woodson and Alford should be on the same "do not call" list.

One of them is an all time Hoosier great in high school and at IU who was a first round NBA draft pick, is beloved by Bobby Knight and all former IU players, is completely respected by the best coaches in the world, and is a great guy, both professionally and on a personal level.

 The other one is Steve Alford.

[Trish]

2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Oh please.

Woodson is in his FIRST year as an assistant with the Knicks. You want to BLAME him for being associated with the best year the Knicks have had in half a decade?

Before that he was assistant to Doc with the Clips for the best years in their franchise history. Like... GREAT years. Are you REALLY trying to say you know more about who is a good coach than Doc Freakin Rivers?

Woody’s last five years as an NBA head coach? 
47-35, 53-29, 18-6, 54-28, 37-45.

That’s pretty damn good too.

You are SEVERELY underestimating the accomplishments of a guy who loves IU and is a  really good coach. He’d need some real recruiting help, but the man is solid.

 

I watch NBA mostly and there is a reason why Mike Woodson isn’t a head coach. It’s the same reason Marc Jackson isn’t a head coach. 
 

His last stint was when the NBA was different. Roy Hibbert was a starting center in the NBA for Christ sakes. 2014 to 2021 has changed in terms of style of play in the NBA. 
 

Im sure he’s a great guy. I’m too young to even know he played for Indiana. (I knew he played here) But again with the connections, if he wasn’t an IU grad then he wouldn’t be considered for this job at all. We might as well Hire Jason Kidd! Throw in Alvin Gentry! 
 

If you want to go the Indiana connections route. Go with a young coach that recruits already know and see at each recruiting event. Dane ******* Fife! Hire Lewis as an associate head coach and call it your Indiana guy. 

 

Dane Fire is the Indiana guy, not Mike Woodson. 

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Just now, rcs29 said:

I agree. Although off my radar for the most part he's a Michael Lewis from having a good shot. I don't care who the coach is I'm going to give him a shot. We could do worse than Mike Woodson. He won when he really shouldn't have in the NBA. If he's the coach let's see how it goes.

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As I've said, I'm going to root for whoever we get.  

[Stuhoo]

Just now, rcs29 said:

I agree. Although off my radar for the most part he's a Michael Lewis from having a good shot. I don't care who the coach is I'm going to give him a shot. We could do worse than Mike Woodson. He won when he really shouldn't have in the NBA. If he's the coach let's see how it goes.

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Exactly. And Mike Woodson is plenty smart enough to realize he’ll need some young recruiting energy.

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Just now, Treesh said:

I watch NBA mostly and there is a reason why Mike Woodson isn’t a head coach. It’s the same reason Marc Jackson isn’t a head coach. 
 

His last stint was when the NBA was different. Roy Hibbert was a starting center in the NBA for Christ sakes. 2014 to 2021 has changed in terms of style of play in the NBA. 
 

 

Kevin Durant was MVP in 2014.  LeBron James was runner-up.  They weren't exactly throwing balls into peach baskets in 2014.

[Jam]

That would be a huge surprise, but I would never say a bad thing about Mike Woodson. Legend!

[IU Scott]

1 hour ago, Treesh said:

Guess my days are numbered here if that happens :(

I never understand this kind of thinking, are you an IU fan or not.  You should back any coach who comes in here until he proves he can't do the job.  No wonder a lot of coaches probably are interested in coming her is the fan base.  we as IU fans see this as a destination job to about any coach in the country.  today with how college basketball is that a great coach at a place like TT or Villanova doesn't have to look at places like IU to win.  I will back whoever the next coach at  IU is and will give him support for 4 years to see what he can do.  I think bring in an IU guy might be something that might work or at least should be given a chance.  we have done everything else by bring in a know cheater, brought in a guy who went to a final four and an up and coming mid major coach.

I know if an IU guy like Woodson is hired I will stop coming to message boards because I a tired of how this fan base turns on people when they don't get their way.  How do you expect this program ever to win again if half the fan base turns on them and not backs them.  I have been ripped for years on HSN saying that our fan base is part of the reason we are no longer an elite program.  we don't see it but everyone else sees that IU is no longer an elite program that coaches will want to flock to.  We don't ;like when national people say these things but they are pretty much correct about this fan base.

[Stuhoo]

33 minutes ago, Treesh said:

I watch NBA mostly and there is a reason why Mike Woodson isn’t a head coach. It’s the same reason Marc Jackson isn’t a head coach. 
 

His last stint was when the NBA was different. Roy Hibbert was a starting center in the NBA for Christ sakes. 2014 to 2021 has changed in terms of style of play in the NBA. 
 

Im sure he’s a great guy. I’m too young to even know he played for Indiana. (I knew he played here)

His last stint in the NBA is now. He’s been in demand from the day he retired as a player. (Not sure what in g_D’s name Roy Hubert has to do with lol)

Wanna know how he played for Indiana? A true leader on a championship level team. And B1G mvp. That’s how he played.

I  love you Treesh; you’re funny and interesting, but your hot take is way too hot— you need to reassess.

 

[IU Scott]

59 minutes ago, Crazy about IU said:

Abilene Christian coach watching them against Texas . Up 3 less then 7 minutes to go . They are definitely a well coached team. 

The last 6 minutes he didn't coach well because he was playing to run the clock down and not trying to score.

[Hoosierfan2017]

Mike Woodson would be the most IU thing ever. He turns 63 on Wednesday and he has a 46% winning percentage in the NBA. I refuse to believe that IU would be this dumb. If they are, my winters just cleared up. 

[Stuhoo]

Hey all - get yourselves on wiki and compare the resumes of Mike Woodson versus Dane Fife. 

Curious who you like.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

Hey all - get yourselves on wiki and compare the resumes of Mike Woodson versus Dane Fife. 

Curious who you like.

Neither. 

[IU Scott]

7 minutes ago, Jam said:

That would be a huge surprise, but I would never say a bad thing about Mike Woodson. Legend!

Well he was a great shooter and should be able to help this teams shooting.

[Hoosierfan2017]

7 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Hey all - get yourselves on wiki and compare the resumes of Mike Woodson versus Dane Fife. 

Curious who you like.

I don’t like either of them. If we’re in a position where we’re choosing between one of them then we are in big trouble. Just when I think we can’t get any worse when it comes to candidates, we get worse. As much as I don’t want Fife, Woodson would be even worse. At least Fife has potential to be a good hire. Woodson is 63 years old. If we’re going to hire the guy in his 60s then hire the one with recent proven Big Ten success.  

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1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

Hey all - get yourselves on wiki and compare the resumes of Mike Woodson versus Dane Fife. 

Curious who you like.

Woodson being 63 and Fife being 41 does bear mentioning, though.  

Personally, neither are guys I want.  But it ain't my rodeo to run.  And I'm not going to pretend to have a crystal ball to how either would do.

[Trish]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

Hey all - get yourselves on wiki and compare the resumes of Mike Woodson versus Dane Fife. 

Curious who you like.

Dane at 25 taking a terrible program to a better place in five years. 
 

Age 30 joins a Big Ten staff. He knows the conference. Recruits know him and his program. He knows fellow assistant coaches that he knows can recruit Indiana and the Midwest. He’s actually coached on the college level unlike Woodson. 
 

Seems pretty obvious to me. 

[IU Scott]

7 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

His last stint in the NBA is now. He’s been in demand from the day he retired as a player. (Not sure what in g_D’s name Roy Hubert has to do with lol)

Wanna know how he played for Indiana? A true leader on a national champion. That’s how he played.

I  love you Treesh; you’re funny and interesting, but your hot take is way too hot— you need to reassess.

 

He wasn't on the championship team.  He graduated in 1980 but that team had a chance until Woodson hurt his back and had to have surgery.  He came back and played half the season and was still the big ten MVP.

[Stuhoo]

11 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Mike Woodson would be the most IU thing ever. He turns 63 on Wednesday and he has a 46% winning percentage in the NBA. I refuse to believe that IU would be this dumb. If they are, my winters just cleared up. 

His winning % as a coach? Took over the worst team in the NBA. First four years as a head coach 106-222. Next five years as an NBA head coach? 209-143.

As an NBA assistant coach? 566-493. 

[Stuhoo]

10 minutes ago, Treesh said:

Dane at 25 taking a terrible program to a better place in five years. 
 

Age 30 joins a Big Ten staff. He knows the conference. Recruits know him and his program. He knows fellow assistant coaches that he knows can recruit Indiana and the Midwest. He’s actually coached on the college level unlike Woodson. 
 

Seems pretty obvious to me. 

All true! And not shabby at all.

[Hoosierfan2017]

2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

His winning % as a coach? Took over the worst team in the NBA. First four years as a head coach 106-222. Next five years as an NBA head coach? 209-143.

As an NBA assistant coach? 566-493. 

I honestly don’t think I’ve ever seen someone’s record as an assistant coach referenced before.. I’m sorry, but there’s nothing that would get me excited about this hire. It would be completely underwhelming. He’s another coach who no one would ever consider for the job if he hadn’t played at IU over four decades ago.