General Coach Candidate News

[WayneFleekHoosier]

He definitely inherited as bad of a Big Ten team as I'd ever seen and eventually got us to a #1 seed.  I do think he was given too much crap for the loss to Syracuse that year.  The one thing I didn't like about him is that he did sometimes call players out in public in cases where I thought he should have been keeping it internal.

If Crean could have cloned Cody Zeller he would still be our coach (loved those 2 seasons). But we seemed mostly lost without CZ. Or if he cared at all about defending.

But, For sure:

Crean >>>>>> Archie Miller.

Who woulda thunk it.

Indiana CAN and should do better than both of them.


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[RaceToTheTop]

I heard Sean Miller might be looking for a job.

[Bowhunter]

Stevens got a 3 year extension today[emoji853]

 

 

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I was informed false info. 🤪

[NCHoosier]

Stevens got a 3 year extension today[emoji853]


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Didn’t happen. Old article and bad news from the other board.


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[Hoosierfan2017]

17 minutes ago, rcs29 said:

I'd really like to know the absolute truth about matta's health. I could see him being at the top of the list IF he's good to go.

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I’d take him over some of the other names I’ve seen even if he had to coach in a wheelchair.

[8bucks]

28 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

He definitely inherited as bad of a Big Ten team as I'd ever seen and eventually got us to a #1 seed.  I do think he was given too much crap for the loss to Syracuse that year.  The one thing I didn't like about him is that he did sometimes call players out in public in cases where I thought he should have been keeping it internal.

When that 2012-13 team was rolling I know we could have won it all.  The BT was strong that year and we beat a ton of good teams but our finish that year was terrible. After a great win at #4 Michigan State on Feb 19th we were basically a .500 team the rest of the year. We were 24-3 with wins over 2 top 5 teams and many over top 15 teams. 
 

Then something happened. Over our last 9 games we won 5 and lost 4. We did poorly in the BTT and looked bad as we barely beat the 9 seed Temple. So while Syracuse is the lightning rod the last 6 weeks of the season we were a different team. 

[rcbowla]

I’d take him over some of the other names I’ve seen even if he had to coach in a wheelchair.

I've made it clear he is in my top 3 but I do have some concerns with the health.

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[rcbowla]

Stevens got a 3 year extension today[emoji853]


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Didn’t happen. Old article and bad news from the other board.


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Yeah that was this past August

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[Capt. Crimson]

1 hour ago, Hovadipo said:

They’re definitely the ring leaders. And they make good points no doubt. I was a huge Crean guy until basically the end. My IU fanhood really blossomed with him, so he’ll always hold a small corner of my heart. 

I was good with Crean until he lashed out at that Michigan assistant on live TV. Started to lose me after that.

[lillurk]

2 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

When that 2012-13 team was rolling I know we could have won it all.  The BT was strong that year and we beat a ton of good teams but our finish that year was terrible. After a great win at #4 Michigan State on Feb 19th we were basically a .500 team the rest of the year. We were 24-3 with wins over 2 top 5 teams and many over top 15 teams. 
 

Then something happened. Over our last 9 games we won 5 and lost 4. We did poorly in the BTT and looked bad as we barely beat the 9 seed Temple. So while Syracuse is the lightning rod the last 6 weeks of the season we were a different team. 

What was the timing of the Hulls injury?

[Hovadipo]

4 minutes ago, Capt. Crimson said:

I was good with Crean until he lashed out at that Michigan assistant on live TV. Started to lose me after that.

I thought that was hilariously Crean, but would understand why it would rub people the wrong way. 

[Josh]

40 minutes ago, rcs29 said:

I'd really like to know the absolute truth about matta's health. I could see him being at the top of the list IF he's good to go.

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Yeah, there's something funny there.  Why did Ohio State pay him his $9M buyout if he quit due to health issues?  There's something else we don't know.

[RaceToTheTop]

25 minutes ago, Capt. Crimson said:

I was good with Crean until he lashed out at that Michigan assistant on live TV. Started to lose me after that.

FWIW, Crean did call and apologize to Jeff Meyer.  While I do agree that was not the time nor venue for Crean to do that, I have to say as a fan I have the same sentiment toward Sampson and his staff.

[Josh]

31 minutes ago, Capt. Crimson said:

I was good with Crean until he lashed out at that Michigan assistant on live TV. Started to lose me after that.

He didn’t know the cameras were on him when he said that.

Bob Knight did much worse.

I have no problem with it.

[lillurk]

Weekday mornings often bring new info. Sleep tight. Can’t wait to see what we learn tomorrow.

[Trish]

8 minutes ago, lillurk said:

Weekday mornings often bring new info. Sleep tight. Can’t wait to see what we learn tomorrow.

We’re not getting anything this week. 
 

If we lose Thursday maybe Archie is gone on Sunday or next Monday. 
 

 

[HoosierTrav]

8 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

I'm probably wrong as usual, but I think there will be a negotiated buyout and the $10 million figure becomes a moot point.  There's no way Archie can be satisfied with his performance and he's got to see that barring a whole bunch of "ifs" it won't be that much better next year.  He won't have to worry about being unemployed unless he simply wants to take some time away from the game.  He'll have coaching options available.  As for leaving money on the table by refusing to leave without the full $10 million option, I just don't see that happening unless he's a lesser man than I think he is.  Last year and this year can't have been good for his personal life and I think he resigns and walks away from IU.

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this already but I’m almost certain, that if he decides to take time off, we can get off the hook for paying the buyout. I could be mistaken. I do remember Crean’s contract had provisions that required him to seek gainful employment. Also remember there being language in there that prohibited him from taking a lesser paying job, if other, more substantial offers were on the table. He could have ended up owing the university. I’m pretty sure CAM’s deal was structured similarly. 

[HoosierTrav]

Perhaps Pap or Chris can help me understand how things work with the fundraising perspective of this buyout. If I were cutting a check to buyout the current coach, I would absolutely want to have some assurances that we had a hot lead on someone I felt confident that we could get. 
 

Is this something that happens? Zero chance I fork big dollars out without having some idea who the realistic targets were. I find it hard to believe others wouldn’t be just as prudent with their money. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

1 hour ago, HoosierTrav said:

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this already but I’m almost certain, that if he decides to take time off, we can get off the hook for paying the buyout. I could be mistaken. I do remember Crean’s contract had provisions that required him to seek gainful employment. Also remember there being language in there that prohibited him from taking a lesser paying job, if other, more substantial offers were on the table. He could have ended up owing the university. I’m pretty sure CAM’s deal was structured similarly. 

Archie’s contract has a mitigation clause too. 

[Southside]

1 hour ago, HoosierTrav said:

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this already but I’m almost certain, that if he decides to take time off, we can get off the hook for paying the buyout. I could be mistaken. I do remember Crean’s contract had provisions that required him to seek gainful employment. Also remember there being language in there that prohibited him from taking a lesser paying job, if other, more substantial offers were on the table. He could have ended up owing the university. I’m pretty sure CAM’s deal was structured similarly. 

Legally speaking, I'd guess that enforcing something like the bolded might be incredibly hard. But I think it's fair to say he'd be able to go back to a lesser conference. Dayton is currently paying 1.2M, which is actually paying pretty decent for Dayton. I can't see CAM getting an offer for more than 1.5M, but every little bit I'm sure would help to close the gap/loss from any buyout.