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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

What candidate are we discussing today boys? 

Haven't they all been discussed?

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[Trish]

3 minutes ago, woodenshoemanHoosierfan said:

Haven't they all been discussed?

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Exactly. I can't keep doing this :( 

[cthomas]

After reading through the various coach related threads, I might have to take a year vacation from the board if CAM is back next season.

[Chris007]

15 minutes ago, Treesh said:

Exactly. I can't keep doing this :( 

Watching Baylor last night, Drew would be fine but there is nothing sexy about that hire. It's meh ok.

[Trish]

11 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Watching Baylor last night, Drew would be fine but there is nothing sexy about that hire. It's meh ok.

Very boring hire indeed. He'll get us back to the dance, yay but.. I wouldn't expect anything too much in March from him. 

[8bucks]

12 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Watching Baylor last night, Drew would be fine but there is nothing sexy about that hire. It's meh ok.

What would have made you think it was a sexy hire after watching one game?  I don't think he is top tier at all but his chance of success here seems so much higher than the lower tier guys who would not be sexy either.  Actually, isnt there really only a small handful of coaches that fit that sexy hire label?

[Chris007]

Just now, 8bucks said:

What would have made you think it was a sexy hire after watching one game?  I don't think he is top tier at all but he chance of success here seems so much higher than the lower tier guys who would not be sexy either.  Actually, isnt there really only a small handful of coaches that fit that sexy hire label?

Because I can see things others can't. I have a special gift for recognizing coaching traits that no one else has. I should probably start one of the coaching search firms because I'm so good. But to really answer your question, it was the only time I've had nothing going on and they were on TV. No real reason why

[Bobman1]

What candidate are we discussing today boys? 

I’m good with Nate Oats and whether or not the buyout is too large for Dolson for today’s discussion.


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[hper50]

I hate saying this but I’ve never been more uncomfortable getting prepared for an IU-Purdue game. I cannot cheer for us to lose. But would a loss help expedite the moving-on process? It’s just a really uncomfortable situation...

I just want us to succeed as soon as possible. And I don’t know if that means a win or loss tomorrow. It’s an unshakable feeling 

[8bucks]

Seeing someone mention Sean above made me remember that when Archie was hired i wondered if perhaps he might follow his brothers approach to some extent.  I know our admin is not likely to go this route but still it made me wonder if perhaps we were going to follow the crowd a little more and get more active.  Then it seemed just after he is announced the whole scandal thing broke and if that had been part of the plan, poof it was gone.

That would not explain poor free throw shooting, lowest quartile for 3 point attempts and his calling card Defense being so meh. 

[Trish]

3 minutes ago, Bobman1 said:

I’m good with Nate Oats and whether or not the buyout is too large for Dolson for today’s discussion.


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I'll bite. 

We're talking a $10.35 million buy-out for Archie, which is a lot of money but could be less if he gets a job the next couple years. It could be less if Archie resigns and leaves some money on the table.

Nate Oats just accepted a new deal. His new deal includes a huge buy-out for next season and the following year. His buy-out next season is $12.5 million dollars. If he were bought out after March 14th of this month, it would be $7 million. However I'm unsure when the new deal kicks in so it could actually be way more than $7million.

Bottom line --- If Nate Oats is our next coach, we're going to need around $20million dollars plus. Archie's contract, the buy-out for Nate and the new contract for Nate. That goes for this off-season and next off-season in my very basic math sense. 

[mamasa]

If it was me, I'd take the firing + buyout in a heartbeat. It's not like his next job won't know exactly what happened at IU. Firing vs resigning is about the same thing for a failing coach. 

[lillurk]

I’m starting to worry about IU getting cold feet even if they lose their next two. No insight, just paranoid, I guess.

[hper50]

Just now, mamasa said:

If it was me, I'd take the firing + buyout in a heartbeat. It's not like his next job won't know exactly what happened at IU. Firing vs resigning is about the same thing for a failing coach. 

I totally agree with this

[hper50]

1 minute ago, lillurk said:

I’m starting to worry about IU getting cold feet even if they lose their next two. No insight, just paranoid, I guess.

And this 

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

If it was me, I'd take the firing + buyout in a heartbeat. It's not like his next job won't know exactly what happened at IU. Firing vs resigning is about the same thing for a failing coach. 

That's assuming they have made the decision to fire him already, correct?
Personally, I don't think they have

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[GaryP]

Watching Baylor last night, Drew would be fine but there is nothing sexy about that hire. It's meh ok.

Here’s a story about coaching that I was told by an old man who was a Kentucky fan:
My wife and I were returning home from a vacation in Charleston, SC right after mike Davis took over..
We had decided to get a room at a hotel on our way home which was on the Tennessee-Kentucky state line.
After checking in, we headed over to a restaurant/bar next door for drinks and dinner.
We sat next to this old man that was a Kentucky fan and started a conversation about the state of IU basketball.
The old man was pretty compassionate about the IU dilemma and stated that IU will go through 5 coaches before they find the one that will bring them back to the level they should be.
Archie is #5. Waiting now to see if this guy was some sort of savant. Hopefully he was.


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[Chris007]

5 minutes ago, lillurk said:

I’m starting to worry about IU getting cold feet even if they lose their next two. No insight, just paranoid, I guess.

I have definitely heard that being discussed. There is an executive session today at 1:30 with the Board of Trustees. I just wonder if that is athletic-related. Most likely not but @Treesh and I might need to drive wherever to check it out. 

[Trish]

2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I have definitely heard that being discussed. There is an executive session today at 1:30 with the Board of Trustees. I just wonder if that is athletic-related. Most likely not but @Treesh and I might need to drive wherever to check it out. 

I live downtown Bloomington currently. Pick me up! They are probably meeting at Applebee's or O'Charley's for their late lunch ;)

[lillurk]

My feeling about next year is that the nucleus likely coming back is not bad, and with some complementary interior pieces could be interesting.

But I have no optimism that’s true without a change.