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[Class of '66 Old Fart 90,718]

12 minutes ago, rcs29 said:

This thread is going to be awesome after we lose by 25 tonight and don't have another game for a week.

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I looked at the btb calendar and next week is our scheduled yearly site maintenance.  We put cold weather air in the tires,  change the oil and filter,  make sure the dipstick fits securely, wash the side mirrors and empty the beer cans and McD bags from the back seat.  All in all it takes about a week. 

[Hoosier987 2,768]

4 minutes ago, realTomCrean said:

If IU wins tonight I am going to flirt with a ban on quote tweeting some of you negative nellies. Convinced that some on here enjoy IU struggles so they can ostracize people they've never met and complain about things like.. who sits where on the bench

I guess this is a remark towards me? though it has nothing to do with tonight's game or being negative...just a personal opinion of mine. Calbert's name came up....I was simply stating that I wish he was not sitting behind the bench and that there are others that I would swap him out. Still stand by that comment. He's part of the IU family and was a legend. 

[lillurk 5,120]

I have seen a couple “candidates must meet these criteria” lists and while I get the impulse, the actual list is much shorter than the ones I’ve seen. At IU, any head men’s basketball coach must:

1. Plausibly be able to win a national title

2. Make a good-faith effort to benefit the whole-person well-being of the players

3. Not embarrass the university with personal conduct.

I reserve the right to change, but all the other stuff about style of play, etc. is either logically flawed or rolled into one of the above. (E.g. one list said, like, “play a winning style” but there are as many such styles as there are good coaches.)

Quickly, Knight was sent packing when it seemed his ability to do #1 was clearly behind him and #3 became too big to continue ignoring. Davis failed #1, though of course he got close enough we had hope for awhile. Sampson had issues w/2 and 3, though he clearly seems to have learned from his time at IU in ways that benefit Houston. Crean’s seat got hot when some folks were convinced he’d never win a title and he lost his job when it became clear he wouldn’t. I’d argue the case for Miller was meeting criteria 1 was mostly based on one lucky tournament run and name recognition. And at least for me, the frustration now with Woodson is arising when it starts to feel less likely he’ll have a final 4 run at any point.

In our current case, I think this year is very disappointing and some of the issues and quotes worry me about whether Woodson can make a F4, but I think it’s also reasonable to believe the next couple years can and will be better.

[lillurk 5,120]

I’m a little inclined to write something pro-Dusty, not because IU should make a change now but because I’ve seen some folks say he’s Not It or he’s just like Arch and I think there are reasons he’s a cut above (and as far as we can tell would meet my criteria above). But idk that the time is right.

The grapevine from Trilly that he wants the job is enough for me right now.

[realTomCrean 2,762]

2 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

I guess this is a remark towards me? though it has nothing to do with tonight's game or being negative...just a personal opinion of mine. Calbert's name came up....I was simply stating that I wish he was not sitting behind the bench and that there are others that I would swap him out. Still stand by that comment. He's part of the IU family and was a legend. 

No, it wasn't aimed at you my man or anyone specifically. But after IU wins, I'm going back through the last 24hrs of posts so if you catch a stray, I'm sorry kind of. I'm with you on Calbert being a GOAT 

[Hoosier987 2,768]

5 minutes ago, realTomCrean said:

No, it wasn't aimed at you my man or anyone specifically. But after IU wins, I'm going back through the last 24hrs of posts so if you catch a stray, I'm sorry kind of. I'm with you on Calbert being a GOAT 

Don’t think we stand a chance…and I hope you get the opportunity to post this after the game lol 

[kottke 919]

13 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

I looked at the btb calendar and next week is our scheduled yearly site maintenance.  We put cold weather air in the tires,  change the oil and filter,  make sure the dipstick fits securely, wash the side mirrors and empty the beer cans and McD bags from the back seat.  All in all it takes about a week. 

Don't forget about the old fries under the seat!

[realTomCrean 2,762]

2 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

Don’t think we stand a chance…and I hope you get the opportunity to post this after the game lol 

There's always a chance and when there's not, there's luck 

[Class of '66 Old Fart 90,718]

1 minute ago, kottke said:

Don't forget about the old fries under the seat!

We save them until we have several 5-gallon buckets full and then drive them up to West Laffy and scatter them around campus.

[Hornsby 3,870]

This thread is going to be awesome after we lose by 25 tonight and don't have another game for a week.

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Unless Woodson coaches the game of his life and we only lose by 10. One can dream I guess.

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[Hornsby 3,870]

Don’t think we stand a chance…and I hope you get the opportunity to post this after the game lol 

I give us better odds of winning in Mackey or at Michigan State than I do at winning in Madison. Wisconsin owns us period. Heck I remember them taking us down in the btt when we had zeller and were the number one seed.

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[HoosierHoopster 8,314]

5 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

My dream list I guess if that's what you wanna call it... For now..

1. Tommy Lloyd  Brad Stevens

2. Scott Drew Brad Stevens

3. Chris Beard Brad Stevens

4. Billy Donovan Brad Stevens

5. Dusty May Brad Stevens

6. Steve Alford Brad Stevens

Fixed it for you. Enjoy your ban --

 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 9,301]

12 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

I give us better odds of winning in Mackey or at Michigan State than I do at winning in Madison. Wisconsin owns us period. Heck I remember them taking us down in the btt when we had zeller and were the number one seed.

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I think they beat the year before in the BTT too.

[southernindianahoosier2 1,056]

42 minutes ago, lillurk said:

I’m a little inclined to write something pro-Dusty, not because IU should make a change now but because I’ve seen some folks say he’s Not It or he’s just like Arch and I think there are reasons he’s a cut above (and as far as we can tell would meet my criteria above). But idk that the time is right.

The grapevine from Trilly that he wants the job is enough for me right now.

Conditional hypothetical here: Dusty May has a strong showing in the tournament. In this scenario IU has only 1 chance to hire him, so after this year if don’t hire in the offseason we can never have the chance to hire him again…. Do we want to move on the opportunity? 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 9,301]

13 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Fixed it for you. Enjoy your ban --

 

I'll die on the hill that we got screwed out of the #1 overall seed for the NCAAT.

[coonhounds 10,555]

I think they beat the year before in the BTT too.

Which game was it when the nobody went for 30 plus on us. Making every three he put up?

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[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 9,301]

Just now, coonhounds said:

Which game was it when the nobody went for 30 plus on us. Making every three he put up?

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That's a long list of games LOL

[lillurk 5,120]

2 minutes ago, southernindianahoosier2 said:

Conditional hypothetical here: Dusty May has a strong showing in the tournament. In this scenario IU has only 1 chance to hire him, so after this year if don’t hire in the offseason we can never have the chance to hire him again…. Do we want to move on the opportunity? 

In this circumstance then I think you have to try to make it work, yes. Especially in your scenario where he stacks another good tourney run, I think you see if you can work with Woody, Quinn etc. to massage him into retirement or some senior program advisor role or something

[IUFAN1976 4,320]

3 minutes ago, southernindianahoosier2 said:

Conditional hypothetical here: Dusty May has a strong showing in the tournament. In this scenario IU has only 1 chance to hire him, so after this year if don’t hire in the offseason we can never have the chance to hire him again…. Do we want to move on the opportunity? 

Woodson will not step aside and Dolson won’t fire him either.  I guess we are moving on

[IUFAN1976 4,320]

1 minute ago, lillurk said:

In this circumstance then I think you have to try to make it work, yes. Especially in your scenario where he stacks another good tourney run, I think you see if you can work with Woody, Quinn etc. to massage him into retirement or some senior program advisor role or something

How about a  Assistant Living facility, lol