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[Ghost of Rick Majerus 1,183]

9 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

Amazing how bad our coaching hires have been.  I’m absolutely confident that we’re getting our best coach since Sampson.

https://x.com/rhodyvault/status/1895083642239713343?s=46
 

Thanks for posting this. It's really some fascinating stats. 

Archie was the safe hire. He was young and had some success at a basketball school. While his personality was probably not the best fit, most people thought he would have a solid career (including myself). 

The guy worked his tail off, it just didn't work out. 

[OKHOOSIER 4,880]

If those are the options my order would be Drew, Few, Otz. Drew and Few are in a different level of no-brainer. Otz is no-brainer lite. And the gap between Drew/Few and Otz would be pretty wide for me. That just being extra elitist though if these are the three options. 

[TTT 1,125]

The amount of money thrown around the result should be almost perfection for all programs that throw such money around.

[Hovadipo 59,291]

On 2/10/2025 at 9:41 AM, Hovadipo said:

Indiana Basketball is likely going to get a lot of coaches paid this offseason.

 

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10 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Recent slippage is one way to put it. OTOH, this is his first down year in a while and Baylor is still sitting at 30th in Kenpom. He’s a couple years out from a title, which almost nobody working today can say.

He also hasn't had a top-75 defense in three years. This is his best of the three; Indiana is currently 17 spots above Baylor on defensive efficiency according to Torvik. Think we can be honest about there being a legitimate defensive fall-off over the last three years, and still entertain the idea that IU would give the support to turn that around.

[iubb 3,615]

1 minute ago, Hovadipo said:

 

But what about a dog as a HC?

[Kentuckysucks 3,289]

5 minutes ago, theriverpilot said:

If I recall, Miller was considered an "ok" hire at the time due to his past runs with Dayton.  That's one most here are wary of going with the mid major flavor of the month type for this hire.  Regardless, you make a good point.  The mismanagement of the IU Basketball brand has been atrocious through some of these past coaching hires and it can only go up from here.

Mike Davis wasn’t qualified to coach BSouth when hired.  Sampson was great but couldn’t follow the rules.  Crean was very weird and an average coach at best.  Had 4 of the worst seasons in program history at Georgia before being fired.  Is now completely unhireable.  Archie…see the Tweet above.  Woodson no comment needed.

You really have to ask yourselves just how incompetent is the Indiana administration?  

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12 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I've said this a bunch, but... gotta remember they were a 1 seed when Covid hit, too. 

Yeah; he was elite before everyone could pay players! For my money, he would likely enough be elite at IU, where he would have the resources to get whoever he wants. Just think we do have to acknowledge that Baylor has really slipped over the last three years, and there were some pretty significant changes to the college basketball recruiting structure during that time...

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[Uspshoosier 50,189]

11 minutes ago, theriverpilot said:

If I recall, Miller was considered an "ok" hire at the time due to his past runs with Dayton

He was considered a home run hire by 99 percent of the national media and people in college basketball.   Most on here thought the same thing.   @Joshhowever from the very beginning hated the hire and said he would fail from the beginning.   Josh was right 

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11 minutes ago, JPCIVOP said:

Yeah; he was elite before everyone could pay players! For my money, he would likely enough be elite at IU, where he would have the resources to get whoever he wants. Just think we do have to acknowledge that Baylor has really slipped over the last three years, and there were some pretty significant changes to the college basketball recruiting structure during that time...

Never really thought Baylor as a Top 10 was sustainable, so I don't agree with some big slip that you're seeing. 

But, still... having him below TJ O is truly sort of baffling to me, I guess maybe Few is his equal? But Few plays in a Mickey Mouse league. 

In the same breath... yeah you might be exactly right. 

[Lebowski 2,981]

So, I guess the whole Brad Stevens done deal stuff was just hearsay?

[theriverpilot 6,080]

4 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

He was considered a home run hire by 99 percent of the national media and people in college basketball.   Most on here thought the same thing.   @Joshhowever from the very beginning hated the hire and said he would fail from the beginning.   Josh was right 

Doesn't @Josh hate everyone though?

[Rico 3,406]

Just now, Lebowski said:

So, I guess the whole Brad Stevens done deal stuff was just hearsay?

Brad Who?

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44 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

Agreed.

But, for fun, let's say IU can have it's choice of the following (for equivalent money with salary/buyouts). Who do you pick?

Few - Proven winner, but no title. Would likely be hungry to get over the hump here. Probably only has 8-10 years left, max, though.

Drew - Proven, national championship coach. But recent results slipping a bit. Does he still have the hunger? At 54, could be the guy for ~15 years.

Otzelberger- Never advanced beyond the Sweet 16, but has had immediate, impressive success at Iowa State. Clearly still hungry. Could be here 20-25 years if all goes well.

 

Otz, easily.

[Stuhoo 85,350]

2 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

So, I guess the whole Brad Stevens done deal stuff was just hearsay?

IMO... Yes! That does not mean it's impossible though.

Some of our best posters that think he's the most likely choice have absolutely qualified their thoughts.

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If we hired the Iowa State coach, which Bloomington eatery would be the first to put an OtzelBurger on its menu? 

Nicks? 

It'd sorta be like a HulkaBurger. 

[Lebowski 2,981]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

IMO... Yes! That does not mean it's impossible though.

Some of our best posters that think he's the most likely choice have absolutely qualified their thoughts.

Thanks for sharing. I didn't feel like going through this thread to find this kind info. Appreciate it. 

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5 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Never really thought Baylor as a Top 10 was sustainable, so I don't agree with some big slip that you're seeing. 

But, still... having him below TJ O is truly sort of baffling to me, I guess maybe Few is his equal? But Few plays in a mickey mouse league. 

This makes sense if the idea is that the last three years is consistent with Baylor's old ceiling; I can see that. The only comparison that comes to mind is Kelvin Sampson at Houston, a program that was middling to bad in CUSA before he got there. He got them to be elite in the American and now elite in the Big 12. Thought Drew might have turned that corner a few years ago, but Baylor's fallen back to the pack. 

Drew could be elite at IU. But there's also a chance that he runs a top-15ish program, with mediocre to bad defense showing up more often than people would like. That was my reason for the Crean comparison a few pages back.

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 10,027]

ok.. the Drew rumblings and then you think about the alleged meeting with Indiana Elite that Dolson had.... hmmmmmmmm lol... I am not a conspiracy guy, usually, that's kinda something though, right? What it means, I have no idea. 

 

 

[OKHOOSIER 4,880]

17 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Never really thought Baylor as a Top 10 was sustainable, so I don't agree with some big slip that you're seeing. 

But, still... having him below TJ O is truly sort of baffling to me, I guess maybe Few is his equal? But Few plays in a mickey mouse league. 

Hey, some common ground! I really do not see how you can put TJO ahead of SD if Drew is an option. Few I would maybe get since the Zags schedule pretty aggressively in the non-con which he always seems to do well, and he has a couple final fours.