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[str8baller 6,307]

32 minutes ago, JPCIVOP said:

He also hasn't had a top-75 defense in three years. This is his best of the three; Indiana is currently 17 spots above Baylor on defensive efficiency according to Torvik. Think we can be honest about there being a legitimate defensive fall-off over the last three years, and still entertain the idea that IU would give the support to turn that around.

Could be “slippage.” Could just be variance. Not enough data points to know. He’s an offensive minded coach and when they have down years it’s often the defense that goes down.  
 

And if we’re being honest, we should also point out all those teams were top 3 seeds in the tourney. So even is it is “slippage” they only slid from 1 seeds to 3 seeds. 

[AZ Hoosier 9,251]

3 minutes ago, iu-dl said:

Where is KathywithaC and her infinite wisdom? Are we cross-checking her predictions/knowledge with what's transpiring?

She's reworking the process and trying not to display any knee-jerk reactions.

[JSHoosier 21,535]

1 minute ago, theriverpilot said:

I would have to do some digging but I believe my "grade" of the hire was a double as well.  It was evident early on with Miller that it wasn't going to work.

I could atleast see a possibility if I tried, hence the double. Little did I know we'd follow it up with "wait, what, is this a joke"

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38 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

 

This is the only guarantee of this coaching search. 

[Hoosierfanyuh 3,656]

5 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Ya know who probably has a pretty good idea of who our next coach is going to be?

Trent Sisley and Harun Zrno.

For real someone on this board has to know the Sisleys lol

[Hoosierfan1901 7,087]

10 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

And you didn't share? For shame.

His Athletic AD he works for thinks it will be Stevens, since it makes sense judging by Dolson’s quietness. And of course, the May Extension saying he probably wasn’t offer the job yet. 

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5 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

For real someone on this board has to know the Sisleys lol

Jokes on you, I know the Zrnos.

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9 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Could be “slippage.” Could just be variance. Not enough data points to know. He’s an offensive minded coach and when they have down years it’s often the defense that goes down.  
 

And if we’re being honest, we should also point out all those teams were top 3 seeds in the tourney. So even is it is “slippage” they only slid from 1 seeds to 3 seeds. 

 

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1 minute ago, OKHOOSIER said:

Jokes on you, I know the Zrnos.

Have heard Bosnia is the South Beach of Eastern Europe. 

[IU Prof 1,488]

20 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

Scott said "non college coach in that meeting"

We haven't had a J.R. Holmes rumor yet, have we?

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4 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Could be “slippage.” Could just be variance. Not enough data points to know. He’s an offensive minded coach and when they have down years it’s often the defense that goes down.  
 

And if we’re being honest, we should also point out all those teams were top 3 seeds in the tourney. So even is it is “slippage” they only slid from 1 seeds to 3 seeds. 

If we look at all the data points in Scott Drew's career, this stands out: he's only had three top-25 defenses his entire career at Baylor. Half of his teams since 2008, once they had been rebuilt, finished outside the top-75. Even his title team was one of the three least efficient defenses to win a title in the last 18 years; the other two teams were the generational UNC offense from 2008 and the Kemba Walker UConn run from 2011. 

Think Drew coming to IU is basically a Tom Crean redux without the baggage of the first three years, and the oddities. Think people would generally be happy about the offense, and think teams would generally end up with protected seeds in the tournament. 

[Chris007 54,093]

Just now, IU Prof said:

We haven't had a J.R. Holmes rumor yet, have we?

Too old

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3 minutes ago, DougJr74 said:

I've mixed feeling. I looked at his record last night. He's really only had 3 or 4 great years. Most years are 20 plus wins but also double digit loses. Maybe he could do better with more resources. 

 

Do better? He's won 69% of his games for 18 years at Baylor and he's 20-11 in the NCAAT. 

Who has won more games the past 18 years? Kansas? Duke? 

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1 minute ago, JPCIVOP said:

If we look at all the data points in Scott Drew's career, this stands out: he's only had three top-25 defenses his entire career at Baylor. Half of his teams since 2008, once they had been rebuilt, finished outside the top-75. Even his title team was one of the three least efficient defenses to win a title in the last 18 years; the other two teams were the generational UNC offense from 2008 and the Kemba Walker UConn run from 2011. 

Think Drew coming to IU is basically a Tom Crean redux without the baggage of the first three years, and the oddities. Think people would generally be happy about the offense, and think teams would generally end up with protected seeds in the tournament. 

He's 20-11 in the NCAAT..... honestly, we deserve basketball purgatory for dismissing him, which you aren't necessarily, but.... idk. This is wild to me. 

Trying to respect everyone else's opinion, but.... holy smokes guys.  

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27 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

Hey, some common ground! I really do not see how you can put TJO ahead of SD if Drew is an option. Few I would maybe get since the Zags schedule pretty aggressively in the non-con which he always seems to do well, and he has a couple final fours.  

Think the argument for Otzelberger is that the coaching environment has changed over the last three years. Otz teams have been elite on defense, and have improved on offense during that period. Think there is also reasonable concern about Drew on defense (even excluding rebuild years, half his teams have finished outside the top-75 in defensive efficiency). 

Think Drew has the higher floor and would be a good hire. Otz is more of a gamble, but certainly a higher defensive floor.

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What happened with TJ O at Nevada? Why is he so sought after when he had two poop seasons like that? 

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20 minutes ago, iu-dl said:

Where is KathywithaC and her infinite wisdom? Are we cross-checking her predictions/knowledge with what's transpiring?

Kathy has a well defined process for posting. There are checkpoints and proscribed milestones. The process ensures all stakeholders have input on the content placed here, this ensures message content is not visceral or inspiring a visceral reaction. The posting process takes time, be patient, the season is still ongoing.

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6 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

We haven't had a J.R. Holmes rumor yet, have we?

Jerry Hoover pretty sure he would bring a shooter with him. 

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31 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

Scott said "non college coach in that meeting"

Did the meeting actually take place though?  Thought there was some debate whether it happened or not...