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3 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

I will also add i know some recruits families will not like Beard as coach either, not all, or even a majority but some. If i remember correctly the mcneelys were a shoe in for Texas until Beard had his situation. 

I know one signed recruit’s family that would love their son playing for Beard.  Just sayin’ … 

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21 minutes ago, IUGRAD06 said:

It is Bloomington.  It is why we put Indiana University - Bloomington on our resumes.  It matters and proves my point.  There is a difference.  You don’t understand that difference and the location and how it is so different than every other commuter school with the Indiana names.  I know Pat Hopkins personally and you don’t think he would get a lot of pressure on this.  He would.  Think about that business school pressure on keeping it black instead of red annually. 

I hate the “Indiana University - Bloomington” moniker. I keep it Indiana University on my resume. 

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Just now, Hoosierfanyuh said:

I mean i definitely specified it’s not going to be the majority so not really sure what your point is here 

I think if he comes here and wins, and others don’t won’t to come, he’ll recruit others.  I would guess the majority of families would have no problem with it.  

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1 minute ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

I mean i definitely specified it’s not going to be the majority so not really sure what your point is here 

And a minority of recruits wouldn’t like Woody cause he doesn’t know their name.  Recruits didn’t like Archie cause he was odd.  Recruits didn’t like Crean cause he clogged their toilets.  Recruits didn’t…. Well ****, they liked Sampson.  Recruits liked Davis cause he let them do what they wanted.  Coin flip if recruits liked our coach in the last 25 years? 

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2 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

It’s not that I don’t understand. I think they’d all be extremely upset of course. I just don’t see a need to bug out about the possibility because if you understand these things so clearly, you probably understand he very likely won’t be hired. And on the chance he is hired, well, have to assume Dolson and Whitten have anticipated that and are ready to navigate the push back. The UT situation with Schiano is an extreme outlier.

I don’t know anymore to be honest.  My wife and I have discussions about this stuff all the time.  From the Fitzgerald thing I don’t think she will do it but I am honestly like there is always meddling so who knows in basketball.  This is a no second chance for me.  It’s is unforgivable.  Just because someone can coach they are allowed these second chances.  Just because someone can pay someone off they get a second chance.  Bullcrap.  People have lost all standards and this isn’t some simple mistake.  It’s a huge eff up.  He isn’t good enough for these type of risks.  I hope Whitten is smart about it and denies it.  Beard isn’t what is good for this university.  

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16 minutes ago, MaynardaHoosier said:

Currently AI sets the BS to IU odds at 2%.  In an attempt to help SD figure out how to land the white whale, I kept adding to the Stevens offer until the odds reached their theoretical max.  Here is where it ended up:

 

Full Offer Recap
  • Cuban’s Pacers Deal: Cuban buys the Pacers, gives Stevens a 5-10% stake ($150-300 million), sets Brady as GM post-IU (2028-29), funds Tracy’s 2026 governor run ($5-10 million).
  • Btad's IU Contract: $10 million/year (10 years, $100 million), $75 million bonus for each NCAA title.
  • Flagg’s Commitment: Cooper Flagg agrees to transfer from Duke for 2025-26.
  • James and Durant agree to use their remaining eligibility: LeBron plays 2025-26 (age 41); Durant plays 2025-28 (ages 37-40).
  • Prior Perks: Total IU control, Brady’s scholarship, legacy (e.g., “Stevens Court”).
Okay Scott.  The path is laid out for you by our AI overlords.   Get it done. 

I guess we still have some time before we need to worry about SkyNet.

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3 minutes ago, Unexpectedflash said:

I can't wait until we have a coach just the chris beard arguments that happen every other day can stop. Feel like at this point people feel very strongly one way or the other about him and there's no changing their mind

Which is why he shouldn’t be hired.  It will be another crap storm.  

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I think a lot of the Beard talk is his agents pushing hard, former players that want him and some donors. Does that mean he is given more consideration that previously thought? Possibly, but I still have a hard time thinking we pick him. I don't see the President signing off on him. And while some donors want him I doubt the heavy hitters like the Cook family will be ok with it. 

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Just now, mdn82 said:

And a minority of recruits wouldn’t like Woody cause he doesn’t know their name.  Recruits didn’t like Archie cause he was odd.  Recruits didn’t like Crean cause he clogged their toilets.  Recruits didn’t…. Well ****, they liked Sampson.  Recruits liked Davis cause he let them do what they wanted.  Coin flip if recruits liked our coach in the last 25 years? 

Wouldn’t you want a coach who doesn’t have anything that could possibly lead a recruit another way that is well documented? All i was getting at is some families will not like it, SOME. 

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90% of the public has no idea about who might be the president of their local university. If Beard is hired, no one is going to come at the president, they'll go after the AD. And I haven't heard about the citizens of Oxford storming the administration offices about Beard. 

The president at UT during Beard's firing wasn't damaged by it. He eventually left and is now the president at SMU. 

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Beard won’t unite this base.  He will further divide it.  Remember when UT hired Schiano and had to back out of it.  Similar stuff will happen.  People pushing for him most likely never attended IU-Bloomington and the Bloomington part matters.  They don’t understand the dynamics here and how people will take it.  I will pull my donations and most likely my firm will as well.  One partner to me the other day.  Hiring someone like Beard will make me done with that place.  

Go ahead you are in the minority but are just really loud. Dolson isn't making this hire based on a btown banners posting threatening to pull a donation.

 

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Just now, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Wouldn’t you want a coach who doesn’t have anything that could possibly lead a recruit another way that is well documented? All i was getting at is some families will not like it, SOME. 

And that’s fair.  I was just trying to add with levity that no matter what there will always be other coaches recruiting negatively against you.  No matter if you are Bob Knight or Archie.  At the end of the day, money talks in the NIL era.  Long recruitments where things like this would be more prevalent are less in this era.  Not saying it won’t happen or he isn’t a dbag.  Just saying, they will all recruit against each other and over 90% are probably dbags for their own selfish reasons.  

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1 minute ago, mdiu28 said:

She also understands we need to win - now. Taking a risk on another up and comer could set the program back another 25 years if they aren’t successful. You cannot just keep doing this every four years.

Not saying Beard is the answer but guess what? He wins. If Beard takes us to the Final Four I guarantee you Kirkwood won’t be full of people protesting the coach. Whitten will be dancing around Showalter fountain. His past will be quickly forgotten. Time for IU to get serious about winning. if you judge someone by their weakest moment - guess what - we’re all pieces of ****. I know I am. 

Dude, if you hit a woman and end up in jail, you are the worst kind of person.  Not a weak moment.  It shows how much of a POS you really are.  Everyone can hold me to that standard and if I did do it, please ban me from ever being a partner at another firm.  I just guess I know I will never do that.  

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Just now, mdn82 said:

And that’s fair.  I was just trying to add with levity that no matter what there will always be other coaches recruiting negatively against you.  No matter if you are Bob Knight or Archie.  At the end of the day, money talks in the NIL era.  Long recruitments where things like this would be more prevalent are less in this era.  Not saying it won’t happen or he isn’t a dbag.  Just saying, they will all recruit against each other and over 90% are probably dbags for their own selfish reasons.  

I agree 

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