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[lillurk 4,408]

Hyper-fixating on postseason record is a weak argument

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 10,137]

4 minutes ago, ronzo4IU said:

What I don’t get is, what’s the big deal about a new coach being announced before the end of the season? I mean, Woody already said he was leaving so that shouldn’t matter at all. Sounds like a big deal about nothing.

I've never seen precedent for it, for one. 

[lillurk 4,408]

Just now, lillurk said:

Hyper-fixating on postseason record is a weak argument

Like it’s not meaningless but it’s much less important than consistently fielding a good team, competing in conference, making the dance, low chance of scandal/embarrassment that hurts or sets back the program.

[AZ Hoosier 9,417]

36 minutes ago, RoadRage said:

Don’t forget Crean also had a final 4 appearance….I’m not saying Crean is better, Cronin is  just not a major upgrade in my opinion. Not sure what happened to Crean at Georgia, obviously he was out of his element and must have had real problems recruiting!

Cronin took UCLA to the FF in 2020-2021

[normandale97 497]

8 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

A whole 2 and he's been at UCLA lol 

Which puts him in the top 20 in college basketball. And they didn't play the tournament during the covid year. 

[lillurk 4,408]

Just now, lillurk said:

Like it’s not meaningless but it’s much less important than consistently fielding a good team, competing in conference, making the dance, low chance of scandal/embarrassment that hurts or sets back the program.

And I’m not a Cronin fanboy but I did both 1. Some self-reflection and 2. Some evaluation of his record and I think he’s kinda nationally underrated and would succeed at IU. I don’t love his demeanor but he gets dudes, they’re consistently awesome at preventing other teams from shooting well from 2 (one of the most repeatable, predictive defensive metrics), his offenses have been better than I would’ve guessed (partially because he tends toward slower paces).

[Alford Bailey 12,826]

11 minutes ago, Rico said:

Shrewsberry is going to be coaching in the NCAAT?  

 

I big NO to Diebler!

Diebler is what happens when you fire a coach mid season

[maharkn 1,890]

Cronin is objectively a top-20 coach in the sport. Not sure what expectations are here. The only other realistic candidates who seem to be in that vein are Beard. May is still not quite there but may be in the near future.

I don't think he can recruit well enough to stay near the top of the Big ten. As of right now he has no signings for next year. Can he not recruit or is he not recruiting because he plans on being somewhere else next year

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[RaceToTheTop 28,544]

4 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I've never seen precedent for it, for one. 

For a couple of reasons:

1.  The coach to be was still coachong

 2.  There wasn’t the rush to get players from the portal

[Hoosierfan2017 23,430]

12 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

There have been lotssss of pro Cronin posts. 

I think Cronin is a lot better than whoever we end up will be (hello Brad Brownell) so, for that reason, I’m pro-Cronin. 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 10,137]

2 minutes ago, normandale97 said:

Which puts him in the top 20 in college basketball. And they didn't play the tournament during the covid year. 

Truly, those sw16s don't move the needle for me, at all. 

Not one single team he had at Cinci 1.made a run 2. Really had the capability of making a run

I just can't take this (Cronin) seriously. You can have that opinion. 

[Uspshoosier 50,704]

9 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

A whole 2 and he's been at UCLA lol 

Didn’t he go to  3 straight sweet 16s out of his 5 years at ucla so far?  The other 2 years he had 1 bad year and 1 where the season got cancelled.  This year is TBD on where his team ends up after his ucla team is announced for anther tourney selection.  That sweet 16 game they lost to the Zags was a really good game 

[lillurk 4,408]

1 minute ago, maharkn said:

I don't think he can recruit well enough to stay near the top of the Big ten. As of right now he has no signings for next year. Can he not recruit or is he not recruiting because he plans on being somewhere else next year

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I would not worry very much about established recruiting track record with any of the candidates. IU has pretty much always had good-to-great players, and NIL means that should be even more consistently true. If it’s some massive red flag for someone, especially across time, then maybe it’s a problem. I don’t really see that with Mick 

Cronin has out-recruited what you’d probably expect given his grumpiness. UCLA obviously has a storied history but it’s not an NIL hotbed.

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,526]

As I have said before, I will believe he is our coach when the contract is signed. Until then, I ask you not to become so overly invested that it will actually happen and is true, then doesn't happen, you start attacking posters. To me that shows me more about the attacker that the OP.

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 10,137]

5 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

For a couple of reasons:

1.  The coach to be was still coachong

 2.  There wasn’t the rush to get players from the portal

Do you think we'll announce a coach before the end of the year

[OliviaPope40 7,116]

3 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Didn’t he go to  3 straight sweet 16s out of his 5 years at ucla so far?  The other 2 years he had 1 bad year and 1 where the season got cancelled.  This year is TBD on where his team ends up after his ucla team is announced for anther tourney selection.  That sweet 16 game they lost to the Zags was a really good game 

2 times of the Sweet 16. Went once when he was Cincinnati. 

Edited February 16 by OliviaPope40

[RoadRage 2,707]

Just for grins and giggles I compared Cronin’s first 5 seasons at UCLA to Alford’s first 5.

Alford 117-57 - 3 Sweet 16s - made tournament 4 out of 5 years

Cronin 115-53 - 2 Sweet 16s -  1 Final 4 - made tournament 3 of 5 years (no tournament Covid)

So, yes, Cronin had the final 4 run but is just marginally better than Alford in his first 5 seasons, and I know none of you want Alford. I just hope Cronin isn’t the choice, but the way he is being pushed right now, you never know?

[Uspshoosier 50,704]

Just now, OliviaPope40 said:

2 times of the Sweet 16. 

He went to a final 4 the year before those 2 so he made 3 straight sweet 16s 

[OliviaPope40 7,116]

Just now, Uspshoosier said:

He went to a final 4 the year before those 2 so he made 3 straight sweet 16s 

Ah thank you.

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18 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

A whole 2 and he's been at UCLA lol 

Yeah,  kinda meh, but if he was a little more consistent, like say 2 sweet 16's  and a Final Four in 3 of the 4 years he coached there that the tournament was held, well then...checks notes.