General Coach Candidate News

[Ghost of Rick Majerus 1,452]

31 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

You don’t make a move just for the sake of making a move. We would’ve been stuck with Archie for one more year at most. If this next hire is a stinker we’re stuck with him for the next four years.

You make a move when it's obvious your current coach is not making strides in the right direction. To be a successful, you have to always strive to be the best or at least make that attempt. Sometimes you swing and miss, other times you hit a home run. But at least you know that you aren't going to fail by staying put with a situation that hasn't worked the past 4 years. 

[Southside 1,914]

22 minutes ago, Moye > Boozer said:

Seeing a lot of tweets about Sampson and realize it’s a hot button as many of us are on different sides of the “we need to be more flexible breaking the rules” argument. 
 

Sore subject but just want everyone to be clear as to why the administration(s) have been so adamant about being sqeaky clean (and yes I do believe that will continue to be a factor in our next hire).

So why is the admin so adamant?

Drumroll ....... Robert Montgomery Knight.

That is the absolute irony in all of this. Bobby put this program on his back and built it into a National power. A true blue blood by anyone’s measure throughout his tenure. 
 

BUT, his antics ultimately lead to his dismissal and put the administration on a course where they were terrified to ever subject themselves or the university to those types of public relations nightmares ever again. 
 

And 20 years later, here we are. The administration doesn’t have to worry about physical, emotional, etc. abuse allegations or “illegal texts” ..... but they do have to worry about a bad basketball team. 
 

“Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.” —— I guess Newton was right. Does he coach basketball???

And RMK is still worshipped. Well, except by the woke, holier than thou crowd.

I agree RMK's situation started them on their path. RMK ran a clean program, and his kids went to class though. RMK did have his own brand of discipline though when the kids goofed up. But so did most good coaches back then. He ended up being just too old school and behind in the times in some aspects. The admin just wanted to make sure they got someone "nice" and PC.

And I'm all for running a clean program and following the rules. But I also don't have a problem with ones that push the envelop so long as they are not coloring too far outside the lines.

At least we have good women's BB, and football now.. oh the irony.

[DChoosier 9,239]

10 minutes ago, rcs29 said:

I could see a Mick Cronin, for example, not wanting any distractions for his team while they are in the tournament and telling an assistant I do not want this going public yet.

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Yes...and/or it could be the assistant saying we have put a lot of work into our tourney success and I would prefer to delay the announcement as long as we are still in the tourney

[Hoosier Guy 8,036]

43 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

I’d be happy if our new guy was coaching this game.

I definitely agree

[Varsity Villas 253 7]

37 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I completely disagree. If you’re firing him it’s because you have a better candidate coming in. You don’t pay $10 million to make a lateral hire. It’s 1 more year of bad play versus potentially 4 (or more). 

You’re missing the obvious. If we had kept Archie all of the players would have been in the transfer portal.  Not to keep their options open...but to jump ship never to return.  We would be unable to land any other transfers, so we would have a team of walk-ons.  This would be similar to Crean’s first year but the difference is its Archie’s lame duck year.  It would have been a colossal failure.  Archie had to go now at all costs!

[NashvilleHoosier 3,842]

32 minutes ago, Southside said:

And RMK is still worshipped. Well, except by the woke, holier than thou crowd.

You can respect what Bobby accomplished here and not worship him. I fall squarely in that camp. I'm sure I'm considered woke by people who get far too uptight about what they consider to be woke. But not worshiping Bobby doesn't make one holier than thou. 

[Jeff_Boy_Ardee 1,311]

Pure speculation and rumor o heard from someone today. Not sure I believe it, but how would we feel with Belein and Fife as the waiting position.

Again I don’t know if I believe that but I would love that scenario.


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[IUCrazy2 2,603]

1 hour ago, Moye > Boozer said:

Is this the latest theory Feathery?? If so, I could absolutely believe it. Also explains why Archie has been radio silent since his exit — he is ticked!!! (Of course he‘s ticked anyway)

Jeff Goodman is Miller's mouthpiece IMO.  

[Southside 1,914]

5 minutes ago, NashvilleHoosier said:

You can respect what Bobby accomplished here and not worship him. I fall squarely in that camp. I'm sure I'm considered woke by people who get far too uptight about what they consider to be woke. But not worshiping Bobby doesn't make one holier than thou. 

Not going to debate semantics. I'm not  talking about folks that respect him. I'm talking about the folks who feign faux outrage, and want to discard a million good deeds and accomplishments due to a few mistakes.

[Hoosierfan2017 23,559]

9 minutes ago, Jeff_Boy_Ardee said:

Pure speculation and rumor o heard from someone today. Not sure I believe it, but how would we feel with Belein and Fife as the waiting position.

Again I don’t know if I believe that but I would love that scenario.


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I hate the ‘coach in waiting’ idea but I’d be happy with Beilein and Fife as an assistant. 

[Hoosierfan2017 23,559]

25 minutes ago, Varsity Villas 253 said:

You’re missing the obvious. If we had kept Archie all of the players would have been in the transfer portal.  Not to keep their options open...but to jump ship never to return.  We would be unable to land any other transfers, so we would have a team of walk-ons.  This would be similar to Crean’s first year but the difference is its Archie’s lame duck year.  It would have been a colossal failure.  Archie had to go now at all costs!

All of that could still happen if we make a bad hire right now. And we’d be stuck with that guy for four years instead of one. There are few people who I think would be ‘bad’ hires. Mainly, Cheaney and Moser. If we fired Archie Miller just to hire Porter Moser then we made a giant mistake. 

[Papacap 1,333]

1 minute ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I hate the ‘coach in waiting’ idea but I’d be happy with Beilein and Fife as an assistant. 

Same. I have know idea what conversations Dolson has had with Beilein and while he might not be my first choice, the dude can flat out coach. If we add Fife (or Lewis) as an assistant, that would be very cool.

[MikeRoberts 7,674]

15 minutes ago, Jeff_Boy_Ardee said:

Pure speculation and rumor o heard from someone today. Not sure I believe it, but how would we feel with Belein and Fife as the waiting position.

Again I don’t know if I believe that but I would love that scenario.


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This would be a great option

[NashvilleHoosier 3,842]

7 minutes ago, Southside said:

Not going to debate semantics. I'm not  talking about folks that respect him. I'm talking about the folks who feign faux outrage, and want to discard a million good deeds and accomplishments due to a few mistakes.

woooooo boy, this one is loaded. And yeah, not for the general coach news thread. A debate that inevitably ends in agreeing to disagree. Back to the coaching news!

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,541]

That guy is a major Porter Pumper who wouldn’t be pushing him without the Illinois game, so he should take his own advice. 

I'm not pushing for Porter and don't care if he is. The meme is accurate

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1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

Fair enough, but I’m not sure it is true that a team that is playing would want to  announce a departure.

Also, if Stevens was in play for awhile that would have delayed everything.

I guess if your theory is true, we’re getting Drew, Musselman, Oats, Enfield, Altman, or Moser, because no one else would fit your theory.

I think the problem lies in that I doubt any of these candidates would bring it up with an AD while on a tournament run. I think you let your agent work things out, then after the season ends for you, you either announce your departure or take the offer to your current AD to secure a raise.

So , any deal could go south before it is actually announced and then SD could be on to option #3+.

 

Funny thing is Mike Davis did stump for a raise, complaining about his pay at a tourney presser just a year after being given the job. I thought it was in very poor taste, but it worked out for him, as he shortly after showed how bad of a coach he really was, but had already locked himself in for 4 more yrs.

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,541]

Brad. Ain't. Coming.

Ever

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[Southside 1,914]

18 minutes ago, NashvilleHoosier said:

woooooo boy, this one is loaded. And yeah, not for the general coach news thread. A debate that inevitably ends in agreeing to disagree. Back to the coaching news!

yup. i have no desire to debate the woke. 

you can have the participation trophy lol. 

 

[Nonymouse 115]

Things are quiet. I’m confident Brad and Thad are out. Beyond that, I’m really not sure where things stand now.  Going to try to squeeze for some info today, but not hopeful I’ll get anything new. 
 

What does everyone think of Andy Enfield? 
 

 

[brandct 630]

1 minute ago, Nonymouse said:

Things are quiet. I’m confident Brad and Thad are out. Beyond that, I’m really not sure where things stand now.  Going to try to squeeze for some info today, but not hopeful I’ll get anything new. 
 

What does everyone think of Andy Enfield? 
 

 

I would take about anyone over Moser