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3 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

So blind faith it is, fair enough!

It's hardly blind faith. 

 

Dolson has been with IU athletics for over a decade. He is as well prepared for the position as anyone could possibly be.

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17 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

You can shout it into space all you want, but it does not make it true. So what is your argument going to be when Beard takes Texas, Muss doesn't leave Arkansas and Altman uses us for a raise? I am not saying historically those jobs are better. I am not saying the potential doesn't exist for IU to surpass them both quickly.  I am talking about today. That they did not have the stones to take a better job like IU? Perception is reality, and the perception is we have fired 6 coaches in 20 years and made two SS, one of which we limped into backwards and got smashed with probably the best IU team in 30 years.  Want me to really salt this wound? Right now, Purdue is a better job than IU, and it isn't close-- and that is going by your own "recent history bias".

You can shout your theories but they’re still wrong. I could’ve been swayed about Texas at this moment but Arkansas has had one good season since 1996. That’s laughable to even compare the jobs. 

Altman covered up a rape try google on that before you say his name again. 
 

Reality is Arkansas has been to the S16 once in the last 26 years and has made the tourney way less than IU. I guess this one ☝️ season right now according to you a better job haha that’s funny. A school who’s fired three coaches in the last 15 years until Muss so they’re no different. 
 

Plus your last 20 years stats are do wrong I wonder if you’ve actually watched IU recently? Crean alone went to 3 S16’s plus our 2002 run. Maybe check up on that before you just spout straight lies. 

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Just now, Nonymouse said:

Obviously this is true, but be careful bringing rationality to the forum.

I don't think there's anyone on this board that actually thinks Stevens is the next coach.  It's a harmless what if that's more fun than trying to figure out how long before the next failed coach needs fired.

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7 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Here you go again. What’s the point of insulting IU fans and, by proxy, the posters on this site?

because it is true and feel we as fans are part of the reason IU basketball isn't what it use to be.  I just see more and more fans who probably had no clue about IU basketball before they attended IU.  I just don't think those fans totally understand what IU basketball is all about or what it takes to win at IU.  Today people  just have knee jerk reactions and don't actually think things through before speaking.  these media guys know how we are and they probably are having a lot of fun at our expense seeing the meltdown here.

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4 minutes ago, Southside said:

But they've made the tournament at least 3 times in the last 5 years, vs our 1.

And they won their conf tournament this year. We've never won a conf tourney. 

Like I said, it's not crazy to debate things. We're living off history at IU. If we're simply comparing the last 5 years, TX has been better. And they've easily out recruited us since 2016, so we at minimum know the kids are buying TX over IU.

Things can turnaround quickly though. Let's just hope we land the right coach.

Well all that recruiting since 2016 did nothing and we still have been to the S16 and won the conference. Plus two tourney wins. 

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10 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

If we reached out to Holtmann the surely we reach out to Mack??

We are probably reaching out to a lot of different  coaches.  When you apply for a job do you think your resume is the only one that the HR department is going to look at before making a  decision.

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2 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

I don't understand why it would be a concerned.  It is not like he sets eyes on one person then goes to the next one when turned down.  He probably are reaching out to a lot of different coaches to gouge their interest and nothing more.  You want him just to go after one guy like Glass did and hire the first one you interview.

My gut feeling is that recruiting coaches in the same conference is kind of a last resort thing. 

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12 minutes ago, Its Always Sunny at IU said:

It's past the point of concern, this is all we need to know about Dolson's strategy. Just randomly call people and hope someone says yes. And for me confirms the Matta news was accurate. I still think we can find a coach to get us in the tourney each year. That should not be hard at IU. Bring in Fife or Lewis and let's get going.

So just look it as a normal job application in the real world.  Does an HR department only bring in  1 resume at a time and look at it to see if they are qualified and want to hire that one.  No they keep the job open and looks at 100's of resumes and then decide who they want to bring in for an interview.  So what is so different in a coaching search when you want to look at multiple coaches before bringing in the few for interviews.

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Just now, Indiana8585 said:

Well all that recruiting since 2016 did nothing and we still have been to the S16 and won the conference. Plus two tourney wins. 

Welp, those silly kids that chose TX should be reminded about Crean's success in 2016 lol... 

Probably helps them that they hand out flip flops, while we hand out down parkas. 

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6 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

I don't think there's anyone on this board that actually thinks Stevens is the next coach.  It's a harmless what if that's more fun than trying to figure out how long before the next failed coach needs fired.

Agree with this. It's fun. The Holtman thing should disprove any notion that there's a Stevens deal. But I'll be right here tomorrow to watch and see if the 27th is indeed the day. 

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Just now, Southside said:

Welp, those silly kids that chose TX should be reminded about Crean's success in 2016 lol... 

Probably helps them that they hand out flip flops, while we hand out down parkas. 

Well those silly kids didn’t win anything so what’s the point? Agree to disagree 

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12 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

So blind faith it is, fair enough!

Mpre like seeing these kind of searches for 50 years and knowing their is always a lot of smoke screens going on.  Just look at the NFL and all the rumors going around free agency and the draft and 95% of things don't happen or was not true.  Also what has Dolson done that would make you not trust him right now.  He did what most of the fans wanted and that was to fire Archie even with the buyout.  Also I will give whoever is hired a chance before I judge the hire unlike al ot of fans

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1 minute ago, coonhounds said:

Why did athletic department quickly denounce the thad rumor yet let the holtman rumor run wild? Thats my question not a good look to go after holtman

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Just now, coonhounds said:

Why did athletic department quickly denounce the thad rumor yet let the holtman rumor run wild? Thats my question not a good look to go after holtman

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Not a perfect world. 

From an HR perspective? You can't respond to many/any Twitter hot takes, even if they're not true, or

We reached out to a representative of Holtmann's to see if he would have interest, and it does no good to litigate subtleties over Twitter.

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14 minutes ago, Southside said:

But they've made the tournament at least 3 times in the last 5 years, vs our 1.

And they won their conf tournament this year. We've never won a conf tourney. 

Like I said, it's not crazy to debate things. We're living off history at IU. If we're simply comparing the last 5 years, TX has been better. And they've easily out recruited us since 2016, so we at minimum know the kids are buying TX over IU.

Things can turnaround quickly though. Let's just hope we land the right coach.

Also I don't think it is right to just judge things on tournament success and that is the only important thing to look at.  Everybody just looks at results when we look at coaching hires but to me the most important thing is the fit of the coach to the program.  With crean and Archie we mainly looked at how they did in the tournament and thought they were good hires.  Neither one of them really fit with this program and fan base.

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2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Not a perfect world. 

From an HR perspective? You can't respond to many/any Twitter hot takes, even if they're not true, or

We reached out to a representative of Holtmann's to see if he would have interest, and it does no good to litigate subtleties over Twitter.

so true, we'd need someone on staff 24/7 to respond to all the rumors on these boards, lol.

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