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[Trish 11,505]

4 minutes ago, Capt. Crimson said:

A master's degree to coach basketball. lol what

I started as GA after graduating. Now I have my masters which most coaching jobs require. 

[rcbowla 7,020]

A master's degree to coach basketball. lol what

Students before athletes lol

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47 minutes ago, Moye > Boozer said:

So Dolson has made it clear that he wants an NBA-style offense ...... is that because he thinks it's the best way to lure top talent or because "modern" offense is the best way to win games at the college level? 

I realize it could very well be both, but the difference really does speak to Dolson's vision for the program ----- is IU a "destination school" for the 4 and 5 stars (if so we know who we'll be competing with) or is IU a place where kids can commit for 4 years and win that doesn't necessarily require the top talent?

Putting it more succinctly are we:

1) Hoping we can get a coach who can consistently recruit NBA talent

2) Hoping we can get a coach who can develop kids and ultimately win at the college level with lesser talent (not necessarily future NBA players) but kids who play hard and play with a high basketball IQ on both ends of the floor?

I have no concern with Woodson as a candidate overall, except I believe that puts Dolson's vision firmly in the "1" camp ----- and if we're trying to be Kentucky or Duke while running a clean program I say good luck. I think the Dolson thesis may be mistaken if that's the case. Hope to be wrong if that's the direction we go and certainly am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. 

 

 

I agree with this in general based on what I've seen, except I think Dolson would hire the best possible coach regardless of the intangible benefits. That said, I think BS was the ideal because he did check both boxes -- recruiting pro-level talent as well as developing players in a cohesive system. It's important to note I think that Dolson said "a system recruits want to play in" -- not players. Recruits implies high-potential players.

(But ultimately I think if a classic-style college stalwart was interested, the interest would be mutual).

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36 minutes ago, Nonymouse said:

I mean, you obviously start with your dream hire and work your way down. I don’t know that the admin ever preferred some of the guys this board does over TM - and I’d argue rightfully so. 

And sure, there may be other calls to make before you get to JB and MW (or even TM), but if they’re not interested, that process takes five minutes.

I also just don’t know all of what they’ve heard already from the agents of the guys still in the tourney. It could be that for one or two of them they’ve been told “I’ll talk to you when we’re eliminated” in which case you move forward with narrowing your pool but don’t make the hire yet if it’s possible he could rise to the top of your list. For example, it could be that they still want to talk to someone like Porter before they make they’re hire, even if they favor JB and MW right now. 

Nony, do you think (or are you perhaps hearing) they want to talk to Porter????

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1 minute ago, Moye > Boozer said:

Nony, do you think (or are you perhaps hearing) they want to talk to Porter????

I’ll admit I’m not sure and haven’t heard that. I’m just speculating that *if* we don’t get a JB or MW announcement this week, that’s a very plausible reason why. 

[Capt. Crimson 3,415]

Armaan in the transfer portal... Need someone quick to stop the bleeding.

[Evariste Galois 575]

43 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

Here are the job requirements for another D1 assistant coaching position. 

To paraphrase Kornheiser when we fired CAM, "it's not like it is Binghamton."

Edit: I concede the point, although not necessarily required, it does seem to be standard: "Previous experience is necessary for becoming an assistant coach at the collegiate level. Typically, a bachelor's degree is required for assistant coach positions, and master's degrees are preferred." found here: https://study.com/articles/Assistant_Coach_College_Level_Salary_Duties_and_Career_Info.html

[WayneFleekHoosier 47,942]

19 minutes ago, Capt. Crimson said:

Armaan in the transfer portal... Need someone quick to stop the bleeding.

While I tend to agree, we need to get the right guy if we can.  I'd rather lose 3 or 4 players that are impatient than to get the wrong guy.  

Now, who is the right guy?  That's the question.

[IUHoosierJoe 1,086]

If Woodson is honestly under serious consideration, I'd ask why not Keith Smart.  Former IU player, former NBA head coach, highly respected assistant, and 6-7 years younger than Woodson.

[Trish 11,505]

Franklin transferring. He heard Woodson was coming huh.. 

[sirhoosierlot 2,654]

At this point I hope it's Woodson. Just think of the T-shirts! 

 

"We've got a Woody!"

 

[Iubravos 327]

If the best coach we can get offering 6+ a year is Woodson then I doubt we'll have many fans watching about like this year. Yikes

[WayneFleekHoosier 47,942]

Just now, Treesh said:

Franklin transferring. He heard Woodson was coming huh.. 

Maybe.  I'm less than trilled with almost all of the "realistic" options.  

How do you go from Stevens to Woodson with a 7 million dollar a year allowance?  Baffling.......

[8bucks 6,347]

34 minutes ago, Treesh said:

I started as GA after graduating. Now I have my masters which most coaching jobs require. 

Didn't Anthony Thompson have some trouble becoming an assistant coach because his degree was not complete?

[Trish 11,505]

1 minute ago, Iubravos said:

If the best coach we can get offering 6+ a year is Woodson then I doubt we'll have many fans watching about like this year. Yikes

The student section will be BAD! 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,610]

53 minutes ago, Moye > Boozer said:

So Dolson has made it clear that he wants an NBA-style offense ...... is that because he thinks it's the best way to lure top talent or because "modern" offense is the best way to win games at the college level? 

I realize it could very well be both, but the difference really does speak to Dolson's vision for the program ----- is IU a "destination school" for the 4 and 5 stars (if so we know who we'll be competing with) or is IU a place where kids can commit for 4 years and win that doesn't necessarily require the top talent?

Putting it more succinctly are we:

1) Hoping we can get a coach who can consistently recruit NBA talent

2) Hoping we can get a coach who can develop kids and ultimately win at the college level with lesser talent (not necessarily future NBA players) but kids who play hard and play with a high basketball IQ on both ends of the floor?

I have no concern with Woodson as a candidate overall, except I believe that puts Dolson's vision firmly in the "1" camp ----- and if we're trying to be Kentucky or Duke while running a clean program I say good luck. I think the Dolson thesis may be mistaken if that's the case. Hope to be wrong if that's the direction we go and certainly am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. 

 

 

I'd try try more to be like Kansas and UNC. Top talent that sticks around and top talent that leaves with a play style that's exciting and fun for fans and players. 

[Trish 11,505]

Just now, 8bucks said:

Didn't Anthony Thompson have some trouble becoming an assistant coach because his degree was not complete?

I'm unaware of that situation. I know Jason Kidd was talking to some schools but it didn't work out because he didn't have a B.S. 

He now has his degree. 

[Evariste Galois 575]

Just now, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Maybe.  I'm less than trilled with almost all of the "realistic" options.  

How do you go from Stevens to Woodson with a 7 million dollar a year allowance?  Baffling.......

I don't think the 7 million was for any coach. 

[IUCrazy2 2,341]

1 minute ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

While I tend to agree, we need to get the right guy if we can.  I'd rather lose 3 or 4 players that are impatient than to get the wrong guy.  

Now, who is the right guy?  That's the question.

The players are getting jumpy I think.  They probably read the same stuff we do and from the outside looking in, this looks like it is circling the drain.

Anybody can jump in and say there is time and things like that, but Dolson is in direct contact with the players and it sounds like any patience talk he is giving them is falling on deaf ears because they probably perceive things like many of us, there was a huge miss on Plan A and there did not seem to be much plan in place for anyone after that.

I agree, you want the right guy before you worry about losing players but you really, truly put the next guy at a disadvantage if you have him lose half his team and then take so long to get him in place that he is missing out on these transfers.  So if we are waiting on one of the guys in the tournament, I hope Dolson is making really damn sure he has a better handle on their willingness to actually come here than he did for Stevens.

If we have another 3 or 4 year complete rebuild, you can just mark this program DOA.

[Evariste Galois 575]

Just now, Treesh said:

I'm unaware of that situation. I know Jason Kidd was talking to some schools but it didn't work out because he didn't have a B.S. 

He now has his degree. 

Are you saying it is Jason Kidd!?! 

Again, just kidding (although I expect this rumor to hit twitter).