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1 minute ago, lillurk said:

I guess my big picture point is if IU’s next coach beats Purdue at least once next year, plays on Saturday in the conference tournament, earns a 4-6 seed and the team looks good in the tournament, we’ll be pretty optimistic even if it wasn’t our first choice hire.

I don’t understand the comments about quitting IU or whatever if they don’t get a hire they like. How do they know until the coach actually coaches and we see the product?

I don’t think many would have thought Archie’s teams would be this bad, this undisciplined, this soft, can’t do the basics after 4 years? I think some hires can be underwhelming on the surface but amazing in reality like some of the other recent Bigten hires

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Regarding Enfield, I watched one, yes one, USC (PAC 12 game too) game this season so this doesn’t mean squat but USC couldn’t miss in that game and I think hat 48 points at half. I just remember wishing IU could shoot like that

Not an endorsement of anyone, just an observation


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46 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

I’m open to an Andy Enfield and I would hope most would be. You never know how someone is going to perform when they get here.

holtmann at OSU, Howard at Michigan, Underwood at Illinois all looked like ok to somewhat underwhelming hires and all are thriving in the right environment 

there are a lot of coaches that could succeed and they all may not be as obvious as a Brad Stevens

I’m not at all. He doesn’t check any of the boxes. He’s not young, and he doesn’t have a track record of success. He’s been a head coach since 2011. He’s made it to one sweet 16. He’s made it past the first round one other time. He’s never won his conference. If we hire him it’s a crystal clear sign that we are no longer a serious basketball program. I’d rather hire Alford or Fife and those two are at the bottom of my list. 

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3 minutes ago, hoosierfan84 said:

“Checking boxes” bought us Archie. Maybe we need to go old school and pencil in the circles the next time. 

You still need some standards. The only thing Enfield has going for him is that his name isn’t Archie Miller. He’s entirely unremarkable as a coach. 

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3 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

You still need some standards. The only thing Enfield has going for him is that his name isn’t Archie Miller. He’s entirely unremarkable as a coach. 

Other than his years in the NBA, his ability to turn around the only two college programs he’s coached at

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8 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

Other than his years in the NBA, his ability to turn around the only two college programs he’s coached at

What about this is appealing to you? He’s been at a P5 school since 2013 and has made two tournaments and won 1 tournament game. You think he’s gonna be the one to get us competing for conference titles and making deep tournament runs? His “years in the NBA” were four years as a shooting coach. If we’re worried about the boosters not paying the buyout, they’ll laugh him off the phone if he tells them he needs millions to hire this guy. 

 

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16 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

You still need some standards. The only thing Enfield has going for him is that his name isn’t Archie Miller. He’s entirely unremarkable as a coach. 

Oh, my quote was not a vote for Enfield. It was tongue in cheek humor. lol

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30 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

What about this is appealing to you? He’s been at a P5 school since 2013 and has made two tournaments and won 1 tournament game. You think he’s gonna be the one to get us competing for conference titles and making deep tournament runs? His “years in the NBA” were four years as a shooting coach. If we’re worried about the boosters not paying the buyout, they’ll laugh him off the phone if he tells them he needs millions to hire this guy. 

 

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He took over a team that won 2 games in conference and for the most part has improved almost every year and is now at 14 wins in conference 

 

he did a lot of the same in in short time at FGC

 

 

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For the naysayers...just let me have this. I saw earlier that Stevens’ salary is about $3.6 million annually? Is that right? Just a tick above what we pay Archie. By the way, Archie’s salary is good for 20th in CBB. Even with the losses and Covid and such, you can’t tell me they couldn’t throw a much bigger number at him. Make him top 5 or top 3 paid in college! As others have said, can’t tell me he wouldn’t rake in the cash for them. Less travel than NBA, closer to family, away from Boston (my wife lived there and personally, as small town Indiana kids, we’d never live there again-winters are brutal), and better pay? You can’t tell me that wouldn’t be attractive! Just let me have this, guys...


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I'm sure I'll be late to answer this but that salary was before his most recent extension. They did not disclose his salary after extension so we don't really know. Someone else can correct me if wrong but I do not believe the NBA is obligated to disclose a coach's contract although many do.

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11 minutes ago, rcs29 said:

I'm sure I'll be late to answer this but that salary was before his most recent extension. They did not disclose his salary after extension so we don't really know. Someone else can correct me if wrong but I do not believe the NBA is obligated to disclose a coach's contract although many do.

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Believe there’s no requirement that it be public, but some publicize it by choice, and others have ownership structures that let it out

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