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8 minutes ago, Zcorey92 said:

I’ll see you in four years when we are hiring another coach then. I’m sure beard will be at North Carolina or Kansas by then. 

He won’t.  Louisville and Kentucky passed in the guy.  

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Just now, IUBtown said:

You know damn well you know the difference.  Own your comments or keep quiet pops. 

No I don't... my point is there isn't a difference, but you said there was... you can't defend it so you tell me to keep quiet? 

and getting off my lawn.

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30 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

While I find your outlook generally way too negative, this is spot on.

No one will ever accuse me of being an optimist, but in the case of IU basketball, I think my IU fandom being entirely post-Knight warrants the extreme negativity. We’ve seen the IU administration make bad decision after bad decision for the better part of 25 years, and the rumors we’ve been hearing don’t give me much hope that this decision will be any different. 

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1 minute ago, AZ Hoosier said:

No I don't... my point is there isn't a difference, but you said there was... you can't defend it so you tell me to keep quiet? 

and getting off my lawn.

If you need an explanation you won't understand the explanation.  I'm not wasting my time.  Just don't hit anybody on the way to the early bird special.  

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3 minutes ago, Zcorey92 said:

He made some extra phone calls. And how many games has he won at Houston compared to Indiana in that time frame? lol do you think Kentucky or Kansas would of self reported some extra phone calls in the middle of final four caliber season like our stupid administration did? 

He’s won 78% of his games at Houston and made at least the sweet 16 in each of the last five tournaments. IU has four sweet 16 appearances in the past 30 years. You don’t hire a guy like Sampson in the first place if you’re just going to execute yourself at the first sign of trouble, yet that’s exactly what IU did. 

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9 minutes ago, Zcorey92 said:

He made some extra phone calls. And how many games has he won at Houston compared to Indiana in that time frame? lol do you think Kentucky or Kansas would of self reported some extra phone calls in the middle of final four caliber season like our stupid administration did? 

Well, yeah, he made phone calls... and recruited thugs, drug dealers, kids who refused to go to class... Sampson had IU's APR for men's basketball down to 886 which would have made them ineligible for the tournament anyway.

"Crean inherited a multi-year APR score of 866 from Kelvin Sampson and thanks to single year scores of 975 in 2008-2009, 1000 in 2009-2010 and 1000 in 2010-2011, the latest multi-year score now sits at 952. Under new NCAA rules, the Hoosiers would have been declared ineligible for postseason play with a score of 866."
https://www.insidethehall.com/2012/06/20/apr-score-continues-to-rise-under-crean/

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3 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Well, yeah, he made phone calls... and recruited thugs, drug dealers, kids who refused to go to class... Sampson had IU's APR for men's basketball down to 886 which would have made them ineligible for the tournament anyway.

"Crean inherited a multi-year APR score of 866 from Kelvin Sampson and thanks to single year scores of 975 in 2008-2009, 1000 in 2009-2010 and 1000 in 2010-2011, the latest multi-year score now sits at 952. Under new NCAA rules, the Hoosiers would have been declared ineligible for postseason play with a score of 866."
https://www.insidethehall.com/2012/06/20/apr-score-continues-to-rise-under-crean/

Creans apr score was just as bad lol and he plenty of off the court issues with players too

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3 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Well, yeah, he make phone calls... and recruited thugs, drug dealers, kids who refused to go to class... Sampson had IU's APR for men's basketball down to 886 which would have made them ineligible for the tournament anyway.

"Crean inherited a multi-year APR score of 866 from Kelvin Sampson and thanks to single year scores of 975 in 2008-2009, 1000 in 2009-2010 and 1000 in 2010-2011, the latest multi-year score
now sits at 952.

Under new NCAA rules, the Hoosiers would have been declared ineligible for postseason play with a score of 866."
https://www.insidethehall.com/2012/06/20/apr-score-continues-to-rise-under-crean/

Grades and APR hit the skids when Sampson was fired and the kids stopped caring/stopped going to class

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5 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

Then why are we interviewing Shaka Smart?

“Search firm talked to one candidate ~10 days ago” does not equal “neither search firm nor athletic department will take to other candidate now”

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9 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Well, yeah, he make phone calls... and recruited thugs, drug dealers, kids who refused to go to class... Sampson had IU's APR for men's basketball down to 886 which would have made them ineligible for the tournament anyway.

"Crean inherited a multi-year APR score of 866 from Kelvin Sampson and thanks to single year scores of 975 in 2008-2009, 1000 in 2009-2010 and 1000 in 2010-2011, the latest multi-year score
now sits at 952.

Under new NCAA rules, the Hoosiers would have been declared ineligible for postseason play with a score of 866."
https://www.insidethehall.com/2012/06/20/apr-score-continues-to-rise-under-crean/

Just my opinion, but we should have torn up those phone/text records and made sure Kelvin was more careful (use burners man!).

However, the other significant issue with him was what you mention above -- his team culture was out of whack.  And we also had guys like Bud Mackey committed!  In addition to fixing the calls/texts, we also needed the President and AD to talk to Kelvin about cleaning up the team culture to some extent -- we don't need a team of choir boys or anything like that, but what he had going wasn't very good.

Oh well, it's well in the past now.

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25 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

If an announcement is coming Monday, as for current coaches, I think Wade and to a lesser extent McCollum would be in play.

My logic:

If announced before the tournament, a major program guy would be seen by some as causing distraction and deserting his players. Wade was recently interviewed and has said he has had discussions with his players concerning his future. Any run by McNeese would be a good story of the team coming together with their departing coach.

Portal recruiting would be possible, even as he coached his team. Things would probably be kept quiet but as there is zero overlap in players in play for both schools, no perceived conflict would prevent reaching out to certain players about interest to play at IU.

McCollum was on with Childers and Neuheisal yesterday.  They asked him about the distraction of being considered a candidate for open jobs.

He said there was speculation every year and his 4 D2 guys know that they will have his undivided attention.  He doesn’t compromise on that.

Based on that, if he is the hire, it doesn’t sound like there would be an announcement until his season ends.

He is an excellent interview btw 

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