Popular Post Class of '66 Old Fart Posted April 11, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 11, 2023 51 minutes ago, Chris007 said: 7.5-8 That rounds up to 10!! CSP, kottke, mamasa and 6 others 2 7 Quote
CSP Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, BGleas said: The more I think about it, the more I'm leaning towards the idea that both Reneau and Ware might not start together. A lot of that depends on who else we get in the portal of course. Say we get Ledlum and Knecht, I'd say there's a decent chance both Reneau and Ware don't start. Both guys only averaged 15mpg last season. I don't see a guy like Galloway in that scenario going from 28mpg to 6th man, especially when also given Woodson's expressed desire to play a more perimeter oriented style. You'd go XJ, Galloway, Knecht, Ledlum, Ware/Reneau. Then you have a bench of Ware/Reneau, Banks, Cupps, Newton/Gunn and Sparks. man.. I like that. I'll take Cormac Ryan, probably a pipe dream, for the last spot, please. BGleas and NVFalcons1990 2 Quote
jbeaman9 Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 14 minutes ago, BGleas said: The more I think about it, the more I'm leaning towards the idea that both Reneau and Ware might not start together. A lot of that depends on who else we get in the portal of course. Say we get Ledlum and Knecht, I'd say there's a decent chance both Reneau and Ware don't start. Both guys only averaged 15mpg last season. I don't see a guy like Galloway in that scenario going from 28mpg to 6th man, especially when also given Woodson's expressed desire to play a more perimeter oriented style. You'd go XJ, Galloway, Knecht, Ledlum, Ware/Reneau. Then you have a bench of Ware/Reneau, Banks, Cupps, Newton/Gunn and Sparks. I think we should all start to get behind the fact that Ware and Malik are starting together. Throw X in there and you have 3 of the 5 starters going into next season. Depending on other portal additions, you could say X, Knecht, Ledlum, Malik, Ware or if we do not land Knecht just swap Trey for him and their is your projected lineup. jonz44, Ngw7183 and J34 2 1 Quote
rcbowla Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 man.. I like that. I'll take Cormac Ryan, probably a pipe dream, for the last spot, please. I really like Cormac a lot. Everytime I watched ND he was giving everything he had and then some.Sent from my SM-G996U using Tapatalk CSP 1 Quote
CSP Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, jbeaman9 said: I think we should all start to get behind the fact that Ware and Malik are starting together. Throw X in there and you have 3 of the 5 starters going into next season. Depending on other portal additions, you could say X, Knecht, Ledlum, Malik, Ware or if we do not land Knecht just swap Trey for him and their is your projected lineup. Not a fan of the bolded lineup, at all, truthfully.... I would much prefer TG starting over Malk/Ware. BGleas 1 Quote
CSP Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, rcs29 said: I really like Cormac a lot. Everytime I watched ND he was giving everything he had and then some. Sent from my SM-G996U using Tapatalk He can handle it some, too. 6'5. Not sure we are going to get many better 4th options on the perimeter. Quote
jbeaman9 Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 I just do think you can land a player like Knecht/Ware on selling them a bench spot. Unless that isn't a part of the conversation and the staff only says they will get the PT they earn. Quote
CSP Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, jbeaman9 said: I just do think you can land a player like Knecht/Ware on selling them a bench spot. Unless that isn't a part of the conversation and the staff only says they will get the PT they earn. Oh Knecht is undoubtedly starting. NVFalcons1990 1 Quote
jbeaman9 Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, btownqb said: Oh Knecht is undoubtedly starting. Gotcha. I still don't think they land someone like Ware and expect him to come off the bench. My gut says that Malik improves his skillset, and outside shot, enough to play the 4 better than Race ever did. Then you play 5 guys with the capability and willingness to take and hit outside shots. thebigweave, ALASKA HOOSIER, jonz44 and 3 others 6 Quote
Popular Post Chris007 Posted April 11, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, btownqb said: Not a fan of the bolded lineup, at all, truthfully.... I would much prefer TG starting over Malk/Ware. The staff is selling Ware as a starter with Malik along with Ledlum. Now if that all happens is another thing but that is what is being sold to the players. WayneFleekHoosier, ALASKA HOOSIER, JaybobHoosier and 9 others 9 3 Quote
CSP Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, Chris007 said: The staff is selling Ware as a starter with Malik along with Ledlum. Now if that all happens is another thing but that is what is being sold to the players. Hope not. RaceToTheTop, Banksyrules, NVFalcons1990 and 2 others 1 4 Quote
Scotty R Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 I don't know why people are do enamored with Galloway being in the starting lineup. To me if we see him starting next year that is not a great sign for us to be a great team. On a great team he should be coming off the bench as your 7-8 guy. We just have to upgrade positions 2-4 because last year that was this teams down fall. If we don't upgrade those position from last year then we won't be as good as last year. CSP, HoosierFan1994, BGleas and 3 others 4 2 Quote
CSP Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, Scotty R said: I don't know why people are do enamored with Galloway being in the starting lineup. To me if we see him starting next year that is not a great sign for us to be a great team. On a great team he should be coming off the bench as your 7-8 guy. We just have to upgrade positions 2-4 because last year that was this teams down fall. If we don't upgrade those position from last year then we won't be as good as last year. IU Scott, because he is good. That's why. He should not be coming off the bench for a team that needs quickness, perimeter D, and someone to create for others. Him improving in the off season is the upgrade. BGleas, ALASKA HOOSIER and go iu bb 3 Quote
Popular Post Stuhoo Posted April 11, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 11, 2023 Malik Reneau is a 5 on offense and a 4 on defense. Kel'el Ware is a 4 on offense and a 5 on defense. Chris Ledlum is a 3 in P5 basketball. He can play with the ball in his hands, move laterally, and get to the rim better than our 3 the last two years, MK, will have been able to. He needs to be somewhat more of a threat from three point range; that will be the challenge for him this summer. JaybobHoosier, Hardwood83, Dave from Dayton and 14 others 14 3 Quote
bigrod Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Scotty R said: I don't know why people are do enamored with Galloway being in the starting lineup. To me if we see him starting next year that is not a great sign for us to be a great team. On a great team he should be coming off the bench as your 7-8 guy. We just have to upgrade positions 2-4 because last year that was this teams down fall. If we don't upgrade those position from last year then we won't be as good as last year. I was just getting ready to post something similar. I'm not against him starting if he improves offensively and can average more like 10-12 ppg., but I like him coming off the bench to provide a spark. bird4par and Chris007 2 Quote
Popular Post ib4iu Posted April 11, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 11, 2023 21 minutes ago, btownqb said: Hope not. I mean I think we need to remember that it’s very real possibility the first sub comes in for Malik at around the 16:00 mark after picking up 2 fouls. Joe_hoopsier, Hardwood83, kottke and 5 others 2 6 Quote
dwtaylor1055 Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 maybe we start Ledlum, Malik and Ware. Doesn't mean we wont see rotations start early to create mis matches. Bring Malik out early, let Ware be the sole big on the floor and when Malik returns, Ware gets a breather. Quote
jbeaman9 Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 26 minutes ago, Stuhoo said: Malik Reneau is a 5 on offense and a 4 on defense. Kel'el Ware is a 4 on offense and a 5 on defense. Chris Ledlum is a 3 in P5 basketball. He can play with the ball in his hands, move laterally, and get to the rim better than our 3 the last two years, MK, will have been able to. He needs to be a threat from three point range; that will be the challenge for him this summer. I agree with this 100%. Look at who palyed the 3 all year last year, MK. MK was one dimensional at best. Ledlum brings more to the table than MK did. He's more athletic, better handles, stronger finisher, obviously not the same percentage shooter from deep but I think he can improve it from last year. He also has a high basketball IQ which will lead to solid defense. Same as MK. Ngw7183 1 Quote
lillurk Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 44 minutes ago, Stuhoo said: Malik Reneau is a 5 on offense and a 4 on defense. Kel'el Ware is a 4 on offense and a 5 on defense. Chris Ledlum is a 3 in P5 basketball. He can play with the ball in his hands, move laterally, and get to the rim better than our 3 the last two years, MK, will have been able to. He needs to be a threat from three point range; that will be the challenge for him this summer. Haven’t seen Ledlum up close, haven’t heard anything to this effect, but I wonder if he commits to IU if they might have him cut a little weight. He was a 4 at Harvard, played some minutes as a small-ball 5 even. At IU it seems clear he’s a fit at the 3, sliding into some minutes at the 4. Quote
lillurk Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 27 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said: maybe we start Ledlum, Malik and Ware. Doesn't mean we wont see rotations start early to create mis matches. Bring Malik out early, let Ware be the sole big on the floor and when Malik returns, Ware gets a breather. We’ve already seen Galloway as a ~25 minute/game bench player. One thing I like about potentially bringing him off the bench if IU gets its wishlist: he could sub anyone out, either to play the 1, 2, or 3, or to sit down a big and slide some guys up the positional spectrum. Chris007 and rcbowla 2 Quote
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