NCAA MBB Transfer Portal

[Hoosier987]

24 minutes ago, lillurk said:

If you’re waiting for megawatt stars, I think you’ll be disappointed. If you think you can build a successful team with guys who defend and bring something to the table on offense, they’re out there, and they may not be flashy.

 

Not looking for megawatt stars. Very rarely do we ever see a mega star enter the transfer portal. I’m looking for high-major talented players that have length, athleticism, shot making ability, a play hard winners’ mentality along with complimenting each other very well…if we get multiple players with those characteristics, I think we will hit a grand slam this off-season…

[Scotty R]

7 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

Why? Shouldn't we just let them freak out if they want to freak out? Although I don't see any of them taking this way too seriously. I believe several saw a possible slide coming without major portaling.

Do any of them tell you that you should start freaking out?

Not on April 3, if we don't have any commits on July 3rd freak out

[RaceToTheTop]

31 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

 

Do any of them tell you that you should start freaking out?

Yes, some posts indicate that is exactly what they want people to do.

[HoosierAloha]

13 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Not on April 3, if we don't have any commits on July 3rd freak out

You should do them a favor and point them to the handbook that says July 3rd is freakout day but not April 3.

There are other things at play that goes into the "big picture" that we'll need to improve on over the summer. I find it interesting we're supposedly going after some bigs and possibly looking at replacing players with like players in the portal. I do like some of the things Sparks can do but feel we need to revamp our offense.

I'll mark my calendar for July 3rd.

[HoosierAloha]

5 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Yes, some posts indicate that is exactly what they want people to do.

Where? Half the posts on here are just **** posts thrown against the wall that is Btown Banners. (half is probably nowhere close to accurate)

[HoosierHoopster]

Whatever, UCONN wins, I win my office pool and my partners have to all congratulate me and give me an official NCAA ball trophy while sucking eggs because Texas lost. I just can’t feel down . :)

[RaceToTheTop]

1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Full agree. Butler was awful with him, what’s he going to do at Indiana to catapult things?

 

This is not to suggest that we should be going after the Butler kid, but none of the top 12 ranked players by 247 in the portal played in the NCAA tournament this year.  Jordan Epps is the 13th ranked player in the portal, Jamison Battle is the 15th ranked player....neiter were in the top 20 players in the Big Ten.  The transfer portal is still mostly full of flawed players -- talented players in P5 conferences who you are hoping live up to expectations and players who put up good numbers at mid and low majors that you are hoping translates once they play against P5 competition regularly.  The #1 player rated in the portal by 247 is a highly rated freshman who wasn't good enough to start on a mid level Pac 12 team who didn't make the tournament.

Ultimately you have to hope you can judge the player's talent correctly and can sign guys that pan out, but it's a crap shoot.  One of the most sought after portal guys last year was Sam Griesel and he was just okay at Nebraska, certainly not a program changer.  So I don't think you can get too wrapped up on a player based on his team's record elsewhere.  Too many moving parts to do so.

[yogisballin]

4 hours ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Kebba Njie of Penn State in the portal.  He thought he did a decent job of coming in to Penn State in a system he didn’t really fit.  3.5 ppg, 3.4 rpg in 14 mpg.  119th ranked recruit.  Just a freshman last year.

I thought so as well

[IU_FanClub]

Whether we like it or not, the trajectory of Woodys tenure is going to depend a lot on how we recruit between now and next season. Really hoping it goes well but the signs have just been so poor lately. We just need to get that first solid signing to go through and then hopefully the floodgates will open 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

This is not to suggest that we should be going after the Butler kid, but none of the top 12 ranked players by 247 in the portal played in the NCAA tournament this year.  Jordan Epps is the 13th ranked player in the portal, Jamison Battle is the 15th ranked player....neiter were in the top 20 players in the Big Ten.  The transfer portal is still mostly full of flawed players -- talented players in P5 conferences who you are hoping live up to expectations and players who put up good numbers at mid and low majors that you are hoping translates once they play against P5 competition regularly.  The #1 player rated in the portal by 247 is a highly rated freshman who wasn't good enough to start on a mid level Pac 12 team who didn't make the tournament.

Ultimately you have to hope you can judge the player's talent correctly and can sign guys that pan out, but it's a crap shoot.  One of the most sought after portal guys last year was Sam Griesel and he was just okay at Nebraska, certainly not a program changer.  So I don't think you can get too wrapped up on a player based on his team's record elsewhere.  Too many moving parts to do so.

All this is fine besides the fact we are absolutely relying on the portal to field a competitive team next season. It can’t really be both ways or can it?

 

And there will be some sure fire hits. Dickinson is the most obvious example this year so far. Maybe Abmas. Ike. Some others. Maybe Battle.

 

Like Terrence Shannon Jr. Nigel Pack. certain guys are more obvious hits than others.

 

Michigans adventures into finding a pg hasn’t worked out so well grabbing low major guys. I do know you can find gems at low major, but imo this Butler kid ain’t that.

 

 

 

 

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[RaceToTheTop]

3 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

All this is fine besides the fact we are absolutely relying on the portal to field a competitive team next season. It can’t really be both ways or can it?

And there will be some sure fire hits. Dickinson is the most obvious example this year so far. Maybe Abmas. Ike. Some others. Maybe Battle.

Like Terrence Shannon Jr. Nigel Pack. certain guys are more obvious hits than others.

Michigans adventures into finding a pg hasn’t worked out so well grabbing low major guys. I do know you can find gems at low major, but imo this Butler kid ain’t that.

 

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As I said, it's not about the Butler kid.  The point is dismissing a player solely on his team's record the previous year would exclude quite a few players.  In terms of Terrance Shannon Jr was not an obvious one coming into the portal....he was ranked 14th by 247 on 2022 portal guys.  Mayer was actually the higher rated portal player.  It's easy to say in hindsight who were the top portal players, but Shannon, while highly regarded, was not at near the most sought after last year. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

As I said, it's not about the Butler kid.  The point is dismissing a player solely on his team's record the previous year would exclude quite a few players.  In terms of Terrance Shannon Jr was not an obvious one coming into the portal....he was ranked 14th by 247 on 2022 portal guys.  Mayer was actually the higher rated portal player.  It's easy to say in hindsight who were the top portal players, but Shannon, while highly regarded, was not at near the most sought after last year. 

Not dismissing him from Butlers record alone.

 

And generally speaking, if you are getting a top 15 transfer portal kid you are certainly expecting him to be good. Shedrick is in the 30’s and he has legit potential. The rating services arent flawless but they do a pretty good job of estimating value. Then it’s fit, and etc…. Just like regular recruiting but theoretically with less margin of error.

 

 

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[Hoosier Roots]

This is one of the weirdest meltdowns I can remember this board having in awhile lol. 

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

Was hoping for some good news today, what’s next, Ledlum committing to Kansas for the final gut punch?

What gut punch? All I've read the last few days is people getting all worked up about a commitment that didn't happen and then being so disappointed they resort to hot takes about the program not being able to finish. I see it all the time on here and social media with coaching changes and recruitment. I'll let things play out before I start saying, Woody can't finish and the team won't be any good next year. Way too soon tell.
Heck, when Love entered the Portal no one hot excited until it was learned their was mutual interest. That's all it was and it didn't work out.

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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

Is it Indiana self-destructing? Or just us?


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[IUFAN1976]

2 hours ago, woodenshoemanHoosierfan said:

What gut punch? All I've read the last few days is people getting all worked up about a commitment that didn't happen and then being so disappointed they resort to hot takes about the program not being able to finish. I see it all the time on here and social media with coaching changes and recruitment. I'll let things play out before I start saying, Woody can't finish and the team won't be any good next year. Way too soon tell.
Heck, when Love entered the Portal no one hot excited until it was learned their was mutual interest. That's all it was and it didn't work out.

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Exactly!  Let’s not worry about it until it happens.  It’s still early in the process, let’s let it play out!

[Dave from Dayton]

3 hours ago, Hoosier Roots said:

This is one of the weirdest meltdowns I can remember this board having in awhile lol. 

[CSP]

Tamar is ranked 41st on 247. I can't imagine Simas being ranked lower than that. 

247 does have Tamar ranked above Primo Spears. Very much a head scratcher. 

[Tasmanian Devil]

I’ve said this in other posts , but it’s worth repeating here: This program - for almost 20 - had been badly mismanaged.

It will take time. Look at who won last night. They hired their coach (Hurley) in 2018. They didn’t recruit highly ranked players (Clingan was highest rated at 37 in RSCI rankings) but they recruited athletic kids that they DEVELOPED. Kids that fit what they wanted in what they need for their style of play.

Look at IU. We’ve got a pair of guards coming in (Newton and Cupps)  that have a combination of athleticism and pure basketball ability. We have a post (Reneau) who showed promise; we’ve added post depth with Sparks. And we have two athletic wings in Banks and Gunn - long, lanky guys. 

If X gets his waiver and we add a guy like Shedrick, we’re looking at the beginning of possibly a good team with a solid summer of development. Within two years we could be solid enough to make a run.

After 20 of watching IU spin its wheels, it’s frustrating as hell to watch them have to build. We just need Woodson to get us back to having a team good enough, with the right elements, to be able to make a run when opportunities present themselves as they did for UConn.

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[Hoosier987]

8 hours ago, Scotty R said:

Not on April 3, if we don't have any commits on July 3rd freak out

We’re going to have commits by 7/3. It’s who committed. I don’t think this will happen but If we do swing and miss at our first targets and settle then questions should be asked.