mdn82 Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 Beilein is a better offensive coach than Crean. Hard to say how much better that IU team would have been with a Beilein at the helm. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appAre we discussing the year we swept them?Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app southsidehoosier, HoosierAloha and lillurk 3 Quote
8bucks Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 I think there is a rumor out there about Crean asking then asst coach Calbert to teach how his teams used to attack a zone. Cal worked on this then after presenting it to the team Crean made light of it and said basically well we aren’t going to do that. Calbert left after that year I believe. Not sure if true but it is an interesting storySent from my iPhone using BtownBanners thebigweave and ALASKA HOOSIER 1 1 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, mdn82 said: Are we discussing the year we swept them? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Was that the year they went to the NC southsidehoosier 1 Quote
mdn82 Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 Was that the year they went to the NCI think so. Most would have wanted him fired in spite of that run much like Mike Davis with these records. Michigan Wolverines (Big Ten Conference) (2007–present)2007–08 Michigan 10–22 5–13 T–9th 2008–09 Michigan 21–14 9–9 T–7th NCAA Division I Round of 322009–10 Michigan 15–17 7–11 T–7th 2010–11 Michigan 21–14 9–9 T–4th NCAA Division I Round of 322011–12 Michigan 24–10 13–5 T–1st NCAA Division I Round of 642012–13 Michigan 31–8 12–6 T–4th NCAA Division I Runner-up2013–14 Michigan 28–9 15–3 1st NCAA Division I Elite Eight2014–15 Michigan 16–16 8–10 9th 2015–16 Michigan 23–13 10–8 8th NCAA Division I Round of 642016–17 Michigan 26–12 10–8 T–5th NCAA Division I Sweet 162017–18 Michigan 33–8 13–5 T–4th NCAA Division I Runner-up2018–19 Michigan 22–2 11–2 Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
LamarCheeks Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, 8bucks said: I think there is a rumor out there about Crean asking then asst coach Calbert to teach how his teams used to attack a zone. Cal worked on this then after presenting it to the team Crean made light of it and said basically well we aren’t going to do that. Calbert left after that year I believe. Not sure if true but it is an interesting story Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners As far as I know, Calbert's only role at IU under Crean was director of basketball operations. That's a non-coaching position and I believe if that person coaches, it's allegedly a violation of NCAA rules. Although breaking down video and studying video and presenting video might fall into the DBO's province. mdn82 1 Quote
mdn82 Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 As far as I know, Calbert's only role at IU under Crean was director of basketball operations. That's a non-coaching position and I believe if that person coaches, it's allegedly a violation of NCAA rules. Although breaking down video and studying video and presenting video might fall into the DBO's province. Agreed I don’t see it as a rumor that is legit for the reasons you listed. I had heard that too from the various boards, but that would be a no no. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
JSHoosier Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 25 minutes ago, 8bucks said: I think there is a rumor out there about Crean asking then asst coach Calbert to teach how his teams used to attack a zone. Cal worked on this then after presenting it to the team Crean made light of it and said basically well we aren’t going to do that. Calbert left after that year I believe. Not sure if true but it is an interesting story Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Cheaney: "How many national titles have you won?" Crean: "How many Dwyane Wade's did he coach?" Sorry, really couldn't resist. Yes, I'm fully aware Cheaney's teams didn't win a title either. ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 19 minutes ago, mdn82 said: Agreed I don’t see it as a rumor that is legit for the reasons you listed. I had heard that too from the various boards, but that would be a no no. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app The way I heard it the videos were not current but Calbert era teams. Would probably be a loophole. But heard this from somebody that is very trusted. I’m as skeptical as anybody but I believe this happened. ALASKA HOOSIER and thebigweave 1 1 Quote
mdn82 Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 The way I heard it the videos were not current but Calbert era teams. Would probably be a loophole. But heard this from somebody that is very trusted. I’m as skeptical as anybody but I believe this happened. I had this saved when this came up prior. According to the NCAA rules they can’t do any instruction. Edit: The image didn’t come across clean. Let me send the link. http:// http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/usc/genrel/auto_pdf/2014-15/misc_non_event/14_15_DirOps_Agreement.pdf Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Bailey7878 Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 Are we discussing the year we swept them?Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appThey made the final game. Yep that year when they went two games further than us. Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk Quote
mdn82 Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 They made the final game. Yep that year when they went two games further than us. Sent from my SM-J700T using TapatalkLol cause the tournament isn’t a crap shoot. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Brass Cannon Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 1 minute ago, mdn82 said: I had this saved when this came up prior. According to the NCAA rules they can’t do any instruction. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app But I don’t think he was instructing per se. from what I was told he was asked to analyze how Knight did it. Grey area I would say. ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 Rechecked my message with this info. The presentation did not occur in front of student athletes and thus would appear to be permissible Class of '66 Old Fart, mdn82 and thebigweave 3 Quote
mdn82 Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 Rechecked my message with this info. The presentation did not occur in front of student athletes and thus would appear to be permissible Thanks! That makes sense. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Uspshoosier Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 They played very well. Probably should have beat Louisville. Trey Burke was great during the tourney. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appProbably should of lost to Kansas in the sweet 16 Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app HoosierAloha and mdn82 2 Quote
cappymo14 Posted February 14, 2019 Posted February 14, 2019 What you fail to acknowledge is we weren’t playing our best ball at the end of the season. Let alone we were wore down from his practicing techniques which tells me he didn’t have the pulse of the team. Losing one game no matter how you justify it to yourself is no reason to fire a coach. It may open your eyes if you hadn’t noticed the stretch but no you do not fire a coach on one game. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appYup. A team that finished the season 29-7, lost 4 of those in the final month of the season. And don’t down play the BTT loss folks. That was an @$$ whoopin. I was there to see it. They went into the NCAA tournament trending down. On February 27th they were ranked #1, and a shoe in for the overall #1 seed. Two weeks later, they had lost 3 of the final 6 including an un-ranked Minny and the aforementioned whoopin to Wisky. Lost the number 1 ranking and barely retained the final 1 seed. Many said they did not deserve it at the time. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app mdn82 1 Quote
Uspshoosier Posted February 14, 2019 Posted February 14, 2019 Yup. A team that finished the season 29-7, lost 4 of those in the final month of the season. And don’t down play the BTT loss folks. That was an @$$ whoopin. I was there to see it. They went into the NCAA tournament trending down. On February 27th they were ranked #1, and a shoe in for the overall #1 seed. Two weeks later, they had lost 3 of the final 6 including an un-ranked Minny and the aforementioned whoopin to Wisky. Lost the number 1 ranking and barely retained the final 1 seed. Many said they did not deserve it at the time. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appThey were the 3rd overall number 1 seed that year. Zags was the last 1 seed Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
8bucks Posted February 14, 2019 Posted February 14, 2019 Yup. A team that finished the season 29-7, lost 4 of those in the final month of the season. And don’t down play the BTT loss folks. That was an @$$ whoopin. I was there to see it. They went into the NCAA tournament trending down. On February 27th they were ranked #1, and a shoe in for the overall #1 seed. Two weeks later, they had lost 3 of the final 6 including an un-ranked Minny and the aforementioned whoopin to Wisky. Lost the number 1 ranking and barely retained the final 1 seed. Many said they did not deserve it at the time. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appI agree. After that win at MSU, and a great road win that was, the team struggled every game. Losses to teams we should not have lost to and the wins were unimpressive (remember Temple). It goes way beyond Syracuse but that Syracuse game topped off a terrible month or so of basketball. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app cappymo14 and Iugradman 2 Quote
mamasa Posted February 14, 2019 Posted February 14, 2019 Just want to remind everyone that his title is Athletic Director, not “Director of Prominent Sports” or “Director of Sports that You Think Are Important”Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners moyemayhem and Class of '66 Old Fart 2 Quote
cappymo14 Posted February 14, 2019 Posted February 14, 2019 They were the 3rd overall number 1 seed that year. Zags was the last 1 seed Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appYou sure? I mean, I believe you and all. I just don’t remember it that way. Still though, I saw the Cuse loss coming. They were way long up front. We were way short.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
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