Bracketology and Team Resumes

[Whoozhers]

So, we do a little square dancing first….. Roll Away To A Half Sashay a Do Si Do and an Allemande Left to Portland.

No big D.

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[str8baller]

https://twitter.com/claytravis/status/1503208256277200899?s=21We

 

This guy is upset about Tennessee, but it sort of applies to IU, too.  Both are behind teams that they are better in terms in metrics and conf tourney, but worse in regular season conf record. 
 

Not sure what people think of Lunardi but he implies conf record still matters and the committee uses the eye test. Also says conference tourneys don’t matter that much, which seems pretty self evident. 
 

Still annoyed about the play-in game, but on to Tuesday. 

[RaceToTheTop]

2 hours ago, str8baller said:

https://twitter.com/claytravis/status/1503208256277200899?s=21We

 

This guy is upset about Tennessee, but it sort of applies to IU, too.  Both are behind teams that they are better in terms in metrics and conf tourney, but worse in regular season conf record. 
 

Not sure what people think of Lunardi but he implies conf record still matters and the committee uses the eye test. Also says conference tourneys don’t matter that much, which seems pretty self evident. 
 

Still annoyed about the play-in game, but on to Tuesday. 

He's right in that the committee doesn't seem to look at conference tournament pretty much and it still using conference record and 'eye test' -- IMO the two worst metrics to use.

And here is something I couldn't believe I heard coming from the committee chair -- in discussing Texas A&M, he said 'yes, they went 23-12 and played well in their tourney, but they lost 8 in a row at one point and you have to look at that.'

Really?  So the 0-8 cancels out the fact they were 23-4 the rest of the time and won seven in a row after the eight in a row period?  The committee said they don't look at the last ten anymore (and A&M was 8-2 in that respect anyway) but apparently the games from 11-20 games ago are used?

 

[str8baller]

9 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

discussing Texas A&M, he said 'yes, they went 23-12 and played well in their tourney, but they lost 8 in a row at one point and you have to look at that.'

That’s wild. I can defend conf regular season record as a metric, at least partially. But picking random loss streaks seems exceedingly dumb, even for the NCAA.

[hoosierbgh]

9 minutes ago, str8baller said:

That’s wild. I can defend conf regular season record as a metric, at least partially. But picking random loss streaks seems exceedingly dumb, even for the NCAA.

That's exactly the kind of dumb that happens when you make a questionable decision, then have to come up with reasons to explain/justify it and then do that poorly. 

[IUc2016]

What's everyone's rooting level for the Big Ten? 

Normally I don't really care as long as purdue loses early. But this year I am tired of hearing about the big ten choking in March and how it is overrated. So on one hand I don't want that to continue, but on the other I don't want teams like Michigan, Rutgers, and Ohio State to have much success as they are just ahead of IU in the pecking order. 

So for me, I would be fine with Iowa going on a run to the elite 8, Izzo beating coach K and getting to the sweet 16/elite 8, and Purdue losing to Yale. The other's can all lose early as well. 

And then IU making it to the final four because that is what we do. 

GO HOOSIERS!

[Hoosier Guy]

IU has a favorable draw to get to the S16. They just have to take advantage

[RaceToTheTop]

13 hours ago, brumdog45 said:

While I didn't match USPS for accuracy, I wasn't really upset with how my selections fared.  Here is a comparison between our bracketmaster USPS, myself, and our favorite punching bag Joe Lunardi.  I'll do Palm later.

Number of at large bids picked correctly:

USPS:  34 of 36 (had Texas A&M and SMU in, Rutgers and Notre Dame out)

brumdog45:  34 of 36 (had Oklahoma and Texas A&M in, Rutgers and Notre Dame out)

Lunardi:  35 of 36 (had Texas A&M in, Wyoming out)

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Teams seeded in exact right seed:

USPS:  45

brumdog45:  30

Lunardi: 39

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Teams missed by more than one seed line:

USPS:  1 (Creighton)

brumdog45:  4 (TCU, Iowa St, Miami, Colgate)

Lunardi: 1 (Boise State)

Average number of seed lines off (correct being 0) for teams picked in the field:

USPS:  0.32

brumdog45:  0.58

Lunardi: 0.45

 

USPS destroyed Jerry Palm as well.  Comparison:

At large teams correct:  USPS 34 out of 36;  Palm 35 out of 36

Seeds exactly correct:  USPS 45, Palm 35

Teams more than 1 seed off:  USPS 1, Palm 5

Average number of seed lines off:   USPS  0.32, Palm 0.56.

[Hoosierfan1901]

5 minutes ago, Hoosier Guy said:

IU has a favorable draw to get to the S16. They just have to take advantage

I was upset at first getting the play in, but thinking about it, we do have a decent path to get to the S16. But gotta deal with the Cowboys first

[RaceToTheTop]

At the end of the day, I think the majority of people on this board had one goal to consider the season a success:  make the tournament.

We did that.  We won 20 games.  We broke the Purdue losing streak.  Obviously there were hiccups but we really only had two games all year that we weren't competitive until the final buzzer:  Michigan and Illinois.  And we came back and beat them both in the Big Ten tournament.

Next year:  let's get the Wisky bug out of the way.

[Hoosierfan1901]

6 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

At the end of the day, I think the majority of people on this board had one goal to consider the season a success:  make the tournament.

We did that.  We won 20 games.  We broke the Purdue losing streak.  Obviously there were hiccups but we really only had two games all year that we weren't competitive until the final buzzer:  Michigan and Illinois.  And we came back and beat them both in the Big Ten tournament.

Next year:  let's get the Wisky bug out of the way.

And the Rutgers bug 

[Hoosier Guy]

14 minutes ago, Hoosierfan1901 said:

I was upset at first getting the play in, but thinking about it, we do have a decent path to get to the S16. But gotta deal with the Cowboys first

Can’t take Wyoming lightly for sure. This is the NCAA tournament. It’s balls to the wall now

[HoosierHoopster]

2 minutes ago, Hoosier Guy said:

Can’t take Wyoming lightly for sure. This is the NCAA tournament. It’s balls to the wall now

I’m thinking - hoping that IU will have a chip on its shoulder and that will help fuel a strong showing by our guys

[HoosierAloha]

4 minutes ago, Hoosierfan1901 said:

And the Rutgers bug 

And having a clear cut leader that holds teammates accountable for their actions on/off the court.

And having returning players take big jumps in the off-season.

And having a baseline e and e where one or two players don't stick out like sore thumbs.

And having a balanced/dynamic offense that is hard to defend.

That will result in..

some good noncon wins.

competing for a Big 1.o regular season championship.

 

[Hovadipo]

42 minutes ago, IUc2016 said:

What's everyone's rooting level for the Big Ten? 

Hope they all lose their first game. Have never, will never root for a B1G team. Rutgers is as close as I'll get. The furthest I'll get is Illinois.

[southsidehoosier]

45 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

I’m thinking - hoping that IU will have a chip on its shoulder and that will help fuel a strong showing by our guys

XJ and TJD both feel disrespected according to some post I’ve seen.

[finky]

1 hour ago, brumdog45 said:

USPS destroyed Jerry Palm as well.  Comparison:

At large teams correct:  USPS 34 out of 36;  Palm 35 out of 36

Seeds exactly correct:  USPS 45, Palm 35

Teams more than 1 seed off:  USPS 1, Palm 5

Average number of seed lines off:   USPS  0.32, Palm 0.56.

I knew the something was up yesterday.  Palm had IU in the field at an 11 and then about with 10 minutes to go in the Purdue Iowa/Game Palm updated his bracket to show IU as a play in.   Tipped off much Jerry? :)

Regardless, who cares 5 days ago we weren't even in.  This time of year, you just have to win.   Go Hoosiers

[finky]

4 hours ago, str8baller said:

https://twitter.com/claytravis/status/1503208256277200899?s=21We

 

This guy is upset about Tennessee, but it sort of applies to IU, too.  Both are behind teams that they are better in terms in metrics and conf tourney, but worse in regular season conf record. 
 

Not sure what people think of Lunardi but he implies conf record still matters and the committee uses the eye test. Also says conference tourneys don’t matter that much, which seems pretty self evident. 
 

Still annoyed about the play-in game, but on to Tuesday. 

Virginia Tech escaped the body of work in the regular season eye test......they viewed them on Tourney alone.

[Hoosier Guy]

1 hour ago, HoosierHoopster said:

I’m thinking - hoping that IU will have a chip on its shoulder and that will help fuel a strong showing by our guys

There’s no doubt IU is playing its best ball right now. Ride the momentum

[AKHoosier]

1 hour ago, Hovadipo said:

Hope they all lose their first game. Have never, will never root for a B1G team. Rutgers is as close as I'll get. The furthest I'll get is Illinois.

This. I'm definitely not a conference homer type of guy.

The closest I would get to rooting for the B1G was Michigan when Beilein was there. Or in certain situations, like 2016 Wisconsin vs the 38-0 UK team.

I enjoy early exits for most of our conference in hopes that will cause the conference front office to do something about the officiating.