(2019) PG Austin Van Zyl

[MikeRoberts]

I don’t know anything about him but we will have 2 open scholarships so if he doesn’t play or just fills in next time we have 5 guys on the DL I’m cool. Even more cool if he is a legit contributor


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[schoosier]

10 hours ago, VO5 said:

Would love to have him, but Snow had a writeup today that said it’s a long shot for him to play in college. Sounds like going pro in some capacity is the likely option.

Isn’t he already a pro in France? Or is that different than the pros that play for Duke, UNC, Kansas, or Arizona?

[HoosierInParadise]

Some have said that this feels like a Crean-like desperation recruit. With Archie saying that we will only go after someone that will help us in the 2019 class, I'm going to choose this to have more of the feeling of this being the type of unknown recruit Beilein would get at Michigan that would roast us for 20 point?

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[Bigred3588]

10 hours ago, schoosier said:

Isn’t he already a pro in France? Or is that different than the pros that play for Duke, UNC, Kansas, or Arizona?

He is, but I don't think that alone excludes him. I haven't read all of the information on amateurism but it appears that you can play at the professional level and still be eligible as long as you were not compensated in any way. The article/information posted by Stuhoo says he went there on a deal that would allow him to play college ball which leads me to believe his family is footing the bill.

[biteoftheapple]

One word.. Fizner

[Stuhoo]

19 minutes ago, biteoftheapple said:

One word.. Fizner

 

"Fizner" is not a word, but there is this:

F is for forgiving, of others and your own mistakes

I is for intuitive, others should trust your instincts

Z is for zeal, your zest for life.

N is for noble, your regal bearing.

E is for exquisite, who could argue?

R is for relish, you seek a challenge.

 

[Hardwood83]

13 hours ago, MikeRoberts said:

I don’t know anything about him but we will have 2 open scholarships so if he doesn’t play or just fills in next time we have 5 guys on the DL I’m cool. Even more cool if he is a legit contributor


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I completely agree- for next season. But tying up a scholarship for 2+ yrs? Not interested.

[mdn82]

I completely agree- for next season. But tying up a scholarship for 2+ yrs? Not interested.

Doesn’t sound like we are ever going to be at capacity going forward. Not sure taking a flyer on a 6’5” PG is a bad thing.


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[Feathery]

Not concerned about his numbers vs grown men in a pro league, when he could be playing high school. If Archie wants him, and we have open scholarships, you take him. 

[mdn82]

Not concerned about his numbers vs grown men in a pro league, when he could be playing high school. If Archie wants him, and we have open scholarships, you take him. 

Agreed. I don’t know if there is upside, but there definitely isn’t much downside with the open schollies.


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[Brass Cannon]

Everybody is against creaning yet all for doing the things that make it necessary. Seems odd. 

[RaceToTheTop]

1 hour ago, biteoftheapple said:

One word.. Fizner

Coach Knigh wouldn' have ever aken a guy like Fizner.

[RaceToTheTop]

2 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Everybody is against creaning yet all for doing the things that make it necessary. Seems odd. 

?

We have two open scholarships.  Can't Crean with openings.  Even if we take in another player this year, there would be three openings next year without any commits yet.

[biteoftheapple]

Coach Knigh wouldn' have ever aken a guy like Fizner.

I agree. But Coach Knight has been gone for many years. We only hope we find a coach with similiar impact.

[Hillsdale87]

22 minutes ago, Feathery said:

Not concerned about his numbers vs grown men in a pro league, when he could be playing high school. If Archie wants him, and we have open scholarships, you take him. 

Agreed. Archie has not been offering scholarships to guys who he doesn't think are worthy. He wouldn't offer Wyndham because he didn't think he was good enough. If he's willing to offer Van Zyl it'll be because he thinks he's going to be a contributor, not to fill up a scholarship.

[Brass Cannon]

1 minute ago, brumdog45 said:

?

We have two open scholarships.  Can't Crean with openings.  Even if we take in another player this year, there would be three openings next year without any commits yet.

So we sign 3 people. No open scholarships left. 

Would leave us with what 2 going into 2021 for that stacked class

 

[RaceToTheTop]

I guess I also don't get the criticism on this either......no one has even said any kind of offer has been made.  All we have is Van Zyl's assertion that 'IU is in contact'.

How is that a bad thing?

[Hillsdale87]

1 hour ago, biteoftheapple said:

One word.. Fizner

People criticize the Fitzner offer way too much. That scholarship is already off the books and was going to go unused last year if not given to Fitzner. While Fitzner was underwhelming, there was no downside to putting him on scholarship. Because of injuries he played more than he should have and got exposed, but he was still more valuable than an empty scholarship would have been.

[Feathery]

44 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

So we sign 3 people. No open scholarships left. 

Would leave us with what 2 going into 2021 for that stacked class

 

If, nobody leaves early for the pros or transfers out. 

[Brass Cannon]

10 minutes ago, Feathery said:

If, nobody leaves early for the pros or transfers out. 

So something unlikely or likely creaning. So my point stands