Sean Miller caught on phone

[SlamaJamaSisley]

I always go back to the first speech Archie made when he mentioned using Arizona as a model for building IU.  He might wish he could omit that part now.  ouch!

[Dalton26]

Let’s talk about what’s really important. Sean Miller is a far better negotiator than Pitino is. 100k for Ayton is a steal compared to 100k for Bowen.


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[WayneFleekHoosier]

Let’s talk about what’s really important. Sean Miller is a far better negotiator than Pitino is. 100k for Ayton is a steal compared to 100k for Bowen.


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Lol. True! However i wonder what the negotiated deal ended up being with "Book" and Ayton. I originally heard 350k. Book would work the dealings out.

Same number that not surprisingly surfaced for Zion Williamson.


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[SlamaJamaSisley]

Big kicker here is proving that money actually changed hands .. correct?

 

[Bailey7878]

The sad thing is if Sean did get fired.... Would Archie poach any of his brother’s recruits. I’m guessing no 

If he gets fired? If Arizona doesn't fire him they are just begging for the death penalty

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[Bailey7878]

Putting the pieces together, we all know now S Miller must have been outbid for Shiitto just like Archie for Garland. 

I wish they had a wiretap discussion shittu. Shittu got money no question.

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[AZ Hoosier]

11 hours ago, Brass Cannon said:

At this point cheating isn't a shortcut. It's just the way. 

I don't blame Sean for doing it. Pitino and Izzo are scum in my books. Sean is just a guy playing the game. 

No. How is it that Pitino and Izzo are scum (for doing it), but Sean is just "playing the game"? If he's doing (did)  the same thing that the "scum" is doing, how can he not also be "scum"?  

You can't grade this on the curve. Being dirty is like being pregnant... either you are or you aren't.

[Brass Cannon]

1 minute ago, AZ Hoosier said:

No. How is it that Pitino and Izzo are scum (for doing it), but Sean is just "playing the game"? If he's doing (did)  the same thing that the "scum" is doing, how can he not also be "scum"?  

You can't grade this on the curve. Being dirty is like being pregnant... either you are or you aren't.

The scum are letting their players rape people and hiring them hookers. 

[Bailey7878]

No. How is it that Pitino and Izzo are scum (for doing it), but Sean is just "playing the game"? If he's doing (did)  the same thing that the "scum" is doing, how can he not also be "scum"?  
You can't grade this on the curve. Being dirty is like being pregnant... either you are or you aren't.

No kidding. Plenty of coaches aren't playing the game or at least like these guys. I highly doubt Bo Ryan was playing the game as he says.

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[AZ Hoosier]

10 hours ago, Magnanimous said:

When things get this ugly, I just step back a bit and smirk thinking that all this mess is over a child's game...

 

But it's a child's game with a huge payout/payoff. Where there's big money, there will always be big corruption. Write that down. In ink.

[AZ Hoosier]

10 hours ago, Ajwhitis said:

Believe the FBI investigation only goes back 3 years. Could be wrong, thought I saw that somewhere. If that's true, Vonleh's recruitment and Williams recruitment won't be involved, at least the beginnings of it and the commitments. If anything happened during their time at IU, it might be included.


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This could very well turn into an "IRS type" investigation... go back 3 years... if they find something, keep digging backwards in time.

[Bailey7878]

This could very well turn into an "IRS type" investigation... go back 3 years... if they find something, keep digging backwards in time.

Its all up to the fbi. The ncaa has no interest in discovering the truth.

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[HoosierAloha]

No kidding. Plenty of coaches aren't playing the game or at least like these guys. I highly doubt Bo Ryan was playing the game as he says.

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I don't think they were paying players in this way or with shoe companies. However, the loss of Diamond Stone and moving to UA was a calculated move.


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[AKHoosier]

There are a lot of Kansas fans being holier than thou on Arizona saying they're glad Miller is finally being outed as a cheater.

What they don't realize is that KU has, indirectly, likely been outed as well in this Ayton case.  The only other finalist listed for Ayton last year was Kansas, and their fans were frankly shocked when he picked Arizona.  Now we know why he chose Arizona.

But Sean Miller wasn't offering $100K just because he's philanthropic; he was outbidding someone.  In this case, it had to be Kansas.  Miller just won the bidding war.

[Bailey7878]

There are a lot of Kansas fans being holier than thou on Arizona saying they're glad Miller is finally being outed as a cheater.
What they don't realize is that KU has, indirectly, likely been outed as well in this Ayton case.  The only other finalist listed for Ayton last year was Kansas, and their fans were frankly shocked when he picked Arizona.  Now we know why he chose Arizona.
But Sean Miller wasn't offering $100K just because he's philanthropic; he was outbidding someone.  In this case, it had to be Kansas.  Miller just won the bidding war.

I want to no what he offered shittu. 75 grand?

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[TXHoosierDaddy]

4 minutes ago, AKHoosier said:

There are a lot of Kansas fans being holier than thou on Arizona saying they're glad Miller is finally being outed as a cheater.

What they don't realize is that KU has, indirectly, likely been outed as well in this Ayton case.  The only other finalist listed for Ayton last year was Kansas, and their fans were frankly shocked when he picked Arizona.  Now we know why he chose Arizona.

But Sean Miller wasn't offering $100K just because he's philanthropic; he was outbidding someone.  In this case, it had to be Kansas.  Miller just won the bidding war.

KU was won plenty of biddding though. Most recently poaching Josh Jackson from Michigan St. Hopefully, the big payments come out similar to AZ. Also, Billy Preston who never played a game for KU due to issues around a car he was driving around campus in. 

[cljones1979]

NCAA president said adebayo and miller on what to do is on Arizona!!!wtf

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[AKHoosier]

10 minutes ago, cljones1979 said:

NCAA president said adebayo and miller on what to do is on Arizona!!!wtf

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Come again?

[cljones1979]

What it said on ESPN headline

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[AKHoosier]

Also, I'm just waiting on something to come out regarding Simi Shittu implicating Arizona and Vanderbilt.  Arizona was once the favorite for him, which surprised a lot of their fans because he hadn't even visited campus at that point.  Miller visited Shittu twice in one week!

Then the FBI probe breaks out, the UA assistant gets fired, and Shitti no longer considers Arizona.

Ends up at Vanderbilt.

All I know is if Shittu had ended up at Indiana I'd be sweating bullets right now.