RaceToTheTop Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Bailey7878 said: Yes but we didn't need moore. I'm just saying. Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk There wasn't anyone watching Moore late in his senior high school season that thought we wouldn't want him. Anyone saying different is being revisionist. Check his draftexpress profile from last April. http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Clifton-Moore-109337/ Hoosierfan2017, thebigweave and mamasa 3 Quote
Josh Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 1 hour ago, IUrocker said: Yep, I'm absolutely sure he hates getting embarrassed. Even after the IPFW game he was like "i never want to experience that again"...which obviously as far as tonight goes, it was a completely different monster. I agree it's just a good lesson learned. I think most of us before the conference started chalked this one up as a loss anyways....maybe not by this much, but a loss nonetheless, which i think eases the pain a bit for the fans. We still looked like a team who cared and tried to fight the best they could, we were just literally outmatched in physicality and talent....not to mention, MSU was in a PO'd state of mind coming off those two loses. Archie has this team fighting for every last second, we just can't buy baskets. After losing to Indiana State and IPFW, would it actually be safe to say we are playing better as a team now than we thought we would? 59 minutes ago, A.j. Nigh said: Anyone who could even begin to lay blame at coaching honestly ask yourself this question.....”If Archie took Dayton into the Breslin Center tonight, what’s the score?” My answer....Michigan State wins by 10. The fact IU lost by 28 (my prediction to my buddy who is a huge Sparty fan was 25) wasn’t coaching. The mix of “talent” we have isn’t good together. We lack size (even before Davis and Morgan went down) shooting, and basketball IQ, just a bad “team”. Add in a floor general with high IQ, a mean big who consistently gets big boy rebounds, and a scorer who can create on his own and maybe the rest of our players nicely fill out this team and make it good. Sadly, we have none of those 3 things and that’s not on the current coach. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners 57 minutes ago, akinnaird24 said: Spot on. No way you can blame our coach for any of this. ThompsonHoosier, mamasa, IUBBFan1970 and 1 other 4 Quote
Bailey7878 Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 There wasn't anyone watching Moore late in his senior high school season that thought we wouldn't want him. Anyone saying different is being revisionist. Check his draftexpress profile from last April. http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Clifton-Moore-109337/True but clearly draft express wss wrong. Oh well.Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bailey7878 said: True but clearly draft express wss wrong. Oh well. Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk How do you know they are wrong? The kid is an 18 year old freshman. We still have a while before we should draw a conclusion on whether keeping him was the right decision. thebigweave and WayneFleekHoosier 2 Quote
MikeRoberts Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 Yep, that was brutal and while Moore didn't show much I like seeing him get some time out there. Mcswain doesn't give us much more and he isn't the future Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app mdn82, WayneFleekHoosier, pumpfake and 1 other 4 Quote
ElectricBoogaloo Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 Moore got pushed around. Freddy can at least hold his ground against BIG competition. pumpfake 1 Quote
cthomas Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 The positives for me were that we led a couple of times early. The negatives were everything else. ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 21 minutes ago, ElectricBoogaloo said: Moore got pushed around. Freddy can at least hold his ground against BIG competition. What's the point Moore needs to learn. Better to do it this year Quote
pumpfake Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 25 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: What's the point Moore needs to learn. Better to do it this year I've heard some suggest that Archie might need to modify his system to suit the current roster. At first I thought that made sense, but then I realized that the underclassmen need to learn Archie's style of play. Keeping them on the bench in favor of upper classmen or delaying their experience playing how he wants them to would do little good. Duty now for the Future! ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
coonhounds Posted January 20, 2018 Author Posted January 20, 2018 Jesus, I am not blaming Archie for this loss but if you think IU basketball has been run well for the last two decades, I don’t know what to tell you.It hasn't but i believe we are going the right direction. Patients with this staff i believe will succeed but it wont be this season with these kidsSent from my SM-G920V using BtownBanners mobile app mamasa and ALASKA HOOSIER 2 Quote
MikeRoberts Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 I skipped like 100 posts so maybe this has been said, but really disappointed in the strength and confidence of smith finishing around the basket. He has as much athleticism as anyone and has a pretty solid 6'7" frame. There is no reason he should be blowing so many layups and dunks and getting stuff so much. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Str8Hoosiers, mdn82, ElectricBoogaloo and 1 other 4 Quote
Bailey7878 Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 How do you know they are wrong? The kid is an 18 year old freshman. We still have a while before we should draw a conclusion on whether keeping him was the right decision.Maybe in a few years he will be ok but right now he gets pushed around like a rag doll.Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk Quote
Bailey7878 Posted January 20, 2018 Posted January 20, 2018 It hasn't but i believe we are going the right direction. Patients with this staff i believe will succeed but it wont be this season with these kidsSent from my SM-G920V using BtownBanners mobile appI sure hope so but I heard the same talk creans first two season. Only time will tell I guess.Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk coonhounds 1 Quote
coonhounds Posted January 20, 2018 Author Posted January 20, 2018 I sure hope so but I heard the same talk creans first two season. Only time will tell I guess.Sent from my SM-J700T using TapatalkThat is fair. Crean did though get us going and got us to a elite level until his coaching shortcomings were exposed and he fell short. So both sides were right he did get it going but failed. Let archie get it going and i think he will keep it going and be successful. Hopefully we get romeo and help us get going next season it will be up from there imoSent from my SM-G920V using BtownBanners mobile app ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
LamarCheeks Posted January 21, 2018 Posted January 21, 2018 Just out of curiosity, has anybody heard anything about Juwan's injury? It's difficult to get news out here in Virginia, and when I googled him, I didn't find out much -- other than he left the Breslin Center on crutches. And I'm guessing while that's a precaution, it still doesn't necessarily bode well. ALASKA HOOSIER and HoosierAloha 2 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted January 21, 2018 Posted January 21, 2018 Just out of curiosity, has anybody heard anything about Juwan's injury? It's difficult to get news out here in Virginia, and when I googled him, I didn't find out much -- other than he left the Breslin Center on crutches. And I'm guessing while that's a precaution, it still doesn't necessarily bode well.Indiana didn't give an update the day after. He did leave on crutches. Seems like legitimate reason to worry. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app LamarCheeks 1 Quote
Hoosiers96 Posted January 21, 2018 Posted January 21, 2018 Just out of curiosity, has anybody heard anything about Juwan's injury? It's difficult to get news out here in Virginia, and when I googled him, I didn't find out much -- other than he left the Breslin Center on crutches. And I'm guessing while that's a precaution, it still doesn't necessarily bode well.I read that nothing will come out until Monday regarding his statusSent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app LamarCheeks 1 Quote
Class of '66 Old Fart Posted January 21, 2018 Posted January 21, 2018 From Osterman earlier today FWIW: Totally get why folks keep asking. Best positive I can give y'all is Morgan didn't have a boot or an apparent cast on the affected leg/ankle/foot when he left the arena Friday. May not mean much, but it's better news that he didn't have it immobilized than if he had. Stuhoo, coonhounds, HoosierAloha and 3 others 6 Quote
Whoozhers Posted January 21, 2018 Posted January 21, 2018 Love my HOOSIERS & Colts but this “wait till next year” Cub mantra is getting OLD.Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners theriverpilot, tortex28, WayneFleekHoosier and 1 other 4 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 Love my HOOSIERS & Colts but this “wait till next year” Cub mantra is getting OLD.Sent from my iPad using BtownBannersI have a feeling we have 1 more year of this mantra, then hopefully we can be amongst the winners. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app ALASKA HOOSIER and Whoozhers 2 Quote
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