Exhibition Game Thread: Marian University

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The 5 minute highlight after the game I noticed much better interior passing. Our half court game should come along nicely based only on this.

[Myrmidon76 614]

Just my thoughts from row 7 behind the Indiana bench:

1. The staff is busting their butt to get Johnson out of his funk. I know a lot of guys here are hoping this is a one off thing, but after last night and the inconsistency at Hysteria...the concern about Johnson "fitting in" should be very real.

2. I will defer any comments about Green. His effort this year has been thoroughly discussed and I agree that he is going to be "the guy" going forward.

3. Newkirk is completely comfortable with his new role. He defended much better last night. He really wants to make Miller happy and has no ego about getting coached...a good thing to see from a Senior.

4. Davis isn't going pro. He is improved but he had defensive lapses inside....I hate to say it, but they still appeared to be fatigue related. He's has improved, but he made enough mistakes to get booted from the huddle during a timeout.

5. Freddie is the best athlete on the team, but is almost always a mental step behind. His screens were off on their timing more than once and would appear to be out of sorts pretty regularly on both the offensive side and defensive side. His athleticism allows him to correct his mistakes now, but he will get exploited going forward by quality teams.

6. Curtis Jones is a decent offensive player, but didn't play a lick of good defense in the first half. Shoddy closeouts. Hands down. Lots of chasing. When Miller was referencing the guards getting beat in the post game comments...Jones is the culprit. To be fair, his defense improved in the second half.

7. Justin Smith tried to do too much at times. His effort is admirable for a freshman, but needs to play more within the flow of the offense instead of unnecessarily pushing the offensive tempo in the half court. His defense is going to be good for us as he improves. He doesn't give up ground and wants to play hard on the defensive side. I will say that the staff wants him to rebound with more intensity. They really took him to task about it.

8. Morgan is Morgan. I will say he took a few ill-advised deep shots early that were unnecessary, but we all know what he brings. He fits.

9. I know quite a few want Moore to be a real nightmare weapon. That isn't going to happen. He will get better, but right now...he's lost.Especially on the defensive end. You'll see it in the Big Ten Network re-air.  He should log the fewest minutes of all the freshman. He is very committed to rebounding well. He does have a chance to score on tips and outbacks. His defensive needs to improve drastically though.

10. McRoberts did some McRoberts things. Priller seemed genuinely pissed off about something and it showed in the fouls. The officials talked to him more than once about something. I will say that for all the Priller fans out there...after Priller scored and the crowd cheered, Coach Miller turned to his staff and clearly shook his head, shrugged his shoulders, and said "I don't get it guys...I just don't get it."

11. Now to Coach Miller. He's constantly coaching. Constantly. If a kid comes out (not named Green) he's coaching them. Kids that are about to check in, he's coaching them. Miller went after the officials on a couple of blown calls...one of them was a strong issue for him. During a timeout, he chewed the ref for quite a while. Everyone in our section loved it. It wasn't fake or a show. Regardless of this being an exhibition, Coach Miller really was a bit Izzo-like with the refs on blown calls.  Miller has a few tricks up his sleeve. If the opposing teams ball handler gets close to our bench, Coach Miller gets real loud and animated imploring his defender to get up into him. Clearly, he's trying to disrupt the ball handler and aid his defender. You'll see it on the re-air. Coach Miller is definitely the leader of the team and staff. His staff knows the pecking order and they clearly respect those boundaries. The kids FULLY understand that mistakes have consequences. When a mistake is made, they immediately look over at the bench. The kids do not want to disappoint Coach Miller. He's very straightforward with them. He's also given this team to Green. He fully trusts him. Last point, Marian went into a zone defense, Coach Miller called out the adjustment on offense and we successfully executed a zone offense that resulted in Moore hitting a jumper from the free-throw line. There was no panic from the kids or the staff when they went into the zone and more importantly...they didn't settle...they executed what they wanted to execute and got a great look. 

 

So...there are my thoughts. I know it is  a bit long, but details are important with all the unknowns right now. I imagine I missed something here or there, but I tried to hit the things that really stuck out. Set the DVR for 8 AM on Tuesday to the Big Ten Network to watch the game. I am pleased with what we are doing guys and gals. This team is a bit like a square peg in a round hole at times, but the future is bright.

 

[WayneFleekHoosier 50,005]

Just my thoughts from row 7 behind the Indiana bench:
1. The staff is busting their butt to get Johnson out of his funk. I know a lot of guys here are hoping this is a one off thing, but after last night and the inconsistency at Hysteria...the concern about Johnson "fitting in" should be very real.
2. I will defer any comments about Green. His effort this year has been thoroughly discussed and I agree that he is going to be "the guy" going forward.
3. Newkirk is completely comfortable with his new role. He defended much better last night. He really wants to make Miller happy and has no ego about getting coached...a good thing to see from a Senior.
4. Davis isn't going pro. He is improved but he had defensive lapses inside....I hate to say it, but they still appeared to be fatigue related. He's has improved, but he made enough mistakes to get booted from the huddle during a timeout.
5. Freddie is the best athlete on the team, but is almost always a mental step behind. His screens were off on their timing more than once and would appear to be out of sorts pretty regularly on both the offensive side and defensive side. His athleticism allows him to correct his mistakes now, but he will get exploited going forward by quality teams.
6. Curtis Jones is a decent offensive player, but didn't play a lick of good defense in the first half. Shoddy closeouts. Hands down. Lots of chasing. When Miller was referencing the guards getting beat in the post game comments...Jones is the culprit. To be fair, his defense improved in the second half.
7. Justin Smith tried to do too much at times. His effort is admirable for a freshman, but needs to play more within the flow of the offense instead of unnecessarily pushing the offensive tempo in the half court. His defense is going to be good for us as he improves. He doesn't give up ground and wants to play hard on the defensive side. I will say that the staff wants him to rebound with more intensity. They really took him to task about it.
8. Morgan is Morgan. I will say he took a few ill-advised deep shots early that were unnecessary, but we all know what he brings. He fits.
9. I know quite a few want Moore to be a real nightmare weapon. That isn't going to happen. He will get better, but right now...he's lost.Especially on the defensive end. You'll see it in the Big Ten Network re-air.  He should log the fewest minutes of all the freshman. He is very committed to rebounding well. He does have a chance to score on tips and outbacks. His defensive needs to improve drastically though.
10. McRoberts did some McRoberts things. Priller seemed genuinely pissed off about something and it showed in the fouls. The officials talked to him more than once about something. I will say that for all the Priller fans out there...after Priller scored and the crowd cheered, Coach Miller turned to his staff and clearly shook his head, shrugged his shoulders, and said "I don't get it guys...I just don't get it."
11. Now to Coach Miller. He's constantly coaching. Constantly. If a kid comes out (not named Green) he's coaching them. Kids that are about to check in, he's coaching them. Miller went after the officials on a couple of blown calls...one of them was a strong issue for him. During a timeout, he chewed the ref for quite a while. Everyone in our section loved it. It wasn't fake or a show. Regardless of this being an exhibition, Coach Miller really was a bit Izzo-like with the refs on blown calls.  Miller has a few tricks up his sleeve. If the opposing teams ball handler gets close to our bench, Coach Miller gets real loud and animated imploring his defender to get up into him. Clearly, he's trying to disrupt the ball handler and aid his defender. You'll see it on the re-air. Coach Miller is definitely the leader of the team and staff. His staff knows the pecking order and they clearly respect those boundaries. The kids FULLY understand that mistakes have consequences. When a mistake is made, they immediately look over at the bench. The kids do not want to disappoint Coach Miller. He's very straightforward with them. He's also given this team to Green. He fully trusts him. Last point, Marian went into a zone defense, Coach Miller called out the adjustment on offense and we successfully executed a zone offense that resulted in Moore hitting a jumper from the free-throw line. There was no panic from the kids or the staff when they went into the zone and more importantly...they didn't settle...they executed what they wanted to execute and got a great look. 
 
So...there are my thoughts. I know it is  a bit long, but details are important with all the unknowns right now. I imagine I missed something here or there, but I tried to hit the things that really stuck out. Set the DVR for 8 AM on Tuesday to the Big Ten Network to watch the game. I am pleased with what we are doing guys and gals. This team is a bit like a square peg in a round hole at times, but the future is bright.
 

Excellent post. I agree with it all. You were a bit closer and got some better details.

Could you tell what Archie was yelling across the court to the one ref late game during FTs. The ref even answered back clear across the court.

I noticed the Priller stuff too. It's fun for the crowd but it has to be very awkward for him.


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[coonhounds 10,189]

Just my thoughts from row 7 behind the Indiana bench:
1. The staff is busting their butt to get Johnson out of his funk. I know a lot of guys here are hoping this is a one off thing, but after last night and the inconsistency at Hysteria...the concern about Johnson "fitting in" should be very real.
2. I will defer any comments about Green. His effort this year has been thoroughly discussed and I agree that he is going to be "the guy" going forward.
3. Newkirk is completely comfortable with his new role. He defended much better last night. He really wants to make Miller happy and has no ego about getting coached...a good thing to see from a Senior.
4. Davis isn't going pro. He is improved but he had defensive lapses inside....I hate to say it, but they still appeared to be fatigue related. He's has improved, but he made enough mistakes to get booted from the huddle during a timeout.
5. Freddie is the best athlete on the team, but is almost always a mental step behind. His screens were off on their timing more than once and would appear to be out of sorts pretty regularly on both the offensive side and defensive side. His athleticism allows him to correct his mistakes now, but he will get exploited going forward by quality teams.
6. Curtis Jones is a decent offensive player, but didn't play a lick of good defense in the first half. Shoddy closeouts. Hands down. Lots of chasing. When Miller was referencing the guards getting beat in the post game comments...Jones is the culprit. To be fair, his defense improved in the second half.
7. Justin Smith tried to do too much at times. His effort is admirable for a freshman, but needs to play more within the flow of the offense instead of unnecessarily pushing the offensive tempo in the half court. His defense is going to be good for us as he improves. He doesn't give up ground and wants to play hard on the defensive side. I will say that the staff wants him to rebound with more intensity. They really took him to task about it.
8. Morgan is Morgan. I will say he took a few ill-advised deep shots early that were unnecessary, but we all know what he brings. He fits.
9. I know quite a few want Moore to be a real nightmare weapon. That isn't going to happen. He will get better, but right now...he's lost.Especially on the defensive end. You'll see it in the Big Ten Network re-air.  He should log the fewest minutes of all the freshman. He is very committed to rebounding well. He does have a chance to score on tips and outbacks. His defensive needs to improve drastically though.
10. McRoberts did some McRoberts things. Priller seemed genuinely pissed off about something and it showed in the fouls. The officials talked to him more than once about something. I will say that for all the Priller fans out there...after Priller scored and the crowd cheered, Coach Miller turned to his staff and clearly shook his head, shrugged his shoulders, and said "I don't get it guys...I just don't get it."
11. Now to Coach Miller. He's constantly coaching. Constantly. If a kid comes out (not named Green) he's coaching them. Kids that are about to check in, he's coaching them. Miller went after the officials on a couple of blown calls...one of them was a strong issue for him. During a timeout, he chewed the ref for quite a while. Everyone in our section loved it. It wasn't fake or a show. Regardless of this being an exhibition, Coach Miller really was a bit Izzo-like with the refs on blown calls.  Miller has a few tricks up his sleeve. If the opposing teams ball handler gets close to our bench, Coach Miller gets real loud and animated imploring his defender to get up into him. Clearly, he's trying to disrupt the ball handler and aid his defender. You'll see it on the re-air. Coach Miller is definitely the leader of the team and staff. His staff knows the pecking order and they clearly respect those boundaries. The kids FULLY understand that mistakes have consequences. When a mistake is made, they immediately look over at the bench. The kids do not want to disappoint Coach Miller. He's very straightforward with them. He's also given this team to Green. He fully trusts him. Last point, Marian went into a zone defense, Coach Miller called out the adjustment on offense and we successfully executed a zone offense that resulted in Moore hitting a jumper from the free-throw line. There was no panic from the kids or the staff when they went into the zone and more importantly...they didn't settle...they executed what they wanted to execute and got a great look. 
 
So...there are my thoughts. I know it is  a bit long, but details are important with all the unknowns right now. I imagine I missed something here or there, but I tried to hit the things that really stuck out. Set the DVR for 8 AM on Tuesday to the Big Ten Network to watch the game. I am pleased with what we are doing guys and gals. This team is a bit like a square peg in a round hole at times, but the future is bright.
 

Just to pick a small portion out of that great recap of the game. I wonder if rob is struggling with green being the clear leader and Miller favorite thinking this should be his team. Just a thought but he should be ready to lead a team but was damaged by crap coaching. I feel if our former coach was here rob and Colin would be definitely the leaders and go to guys. I do feel Colin will still be a leader on court and off this year and hope rob can put it together for a entire season this year

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Even in warmups he was missing 4 of 5 or so. He was hanging his head a bit in warmups too. He's a veteran though and a good shooter. I bet he figures it out sooner than later.
 
Green's pull up 2 point shot was Yogi-esque. Greens pull up 3 shot is definitely not Yogi-esque.
 
We need to make smarter passes when flipping around the horn. Lots of lazy, telegraphed passes.
 
 
 
 
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No joke, I got confused watching the highlights watching #11 stop on a dime and pull up


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31 minutes ago, Myrmidon76 said:

Just my thoughts from row 7 behind the Indiana bench:

1. The staff is busting their butt to get Johnson out of his funk. I know a lot of guys here are hoping this is a one off thing, but after last night and the inconsistency at Hysteria...the concern about Johnson "fitting in" should be very real.

2. I will defer any comments about Green. His effort this year has been thoroughly discussed and I agree that he is going to be "the guy" going forward.

3. Newkirk is completely comfortable with his new role. He defended much better last night. He really wants to make Miller happy and has no ego about getting coached...a good thing to see from a Senior.

4. Davis isn't going pro. He is improved but he had defensive lapses inside....I hate to say it, but they still appeared to be fatigue related. He's has improved, but he made enough mistakes to get booted from the huddle during a timeout.

5. Freddie is the best athlete on the team, but is almost always a mental step behind. His screens were off on their timing more than once and would appear to be out of sorts pretty regularly on both the offensive side and defensive side. His athleticism allows him to correct his mistakes now, but he will get exploited going forward by quality teams.

6. Curtis Jones is a decent offensive player, but didn't play a lick of good defense in the first half. Shoddy closeouts. Hands down. Lots of chasing. When Miller was referencing the guards getting beat in the post game comments...Jones is the culprit. To be fair, his defense improved in the second half.

7. Justin Smith tried to do too much at times. His effort is admirable for a freshman, but needs to play more within the flow of the offense instead of unnecessarily pushing the offensive tempo in the half court. His defense is going to be good for us as he improves. He doesn't give up ground and wants to play hard on the defensive side. I will say that the staff wants him to rebound with more intensity. They really took him to task about it.

8. Morgan is Morgan. I will say he took a few ill-advised deep shots early that were unnecessary, but we all know what he brings. He fits.

9. I know quite a few want Moore to be a real nightmare weapon. That isn't going to happen. He will get better, but right now...he's lost.Especially on the defensive end. You'll see it in the Big Ten Network re-air.  He should log the fewest minutes of all the freshman. He is very committed to rebounding well. He does have a chance to score on tips and outbacks. His defensive needs to improve drastically though.

10. McRoberts did some McRoberts things. Priller seemed genuinely pissed off about something and it showed in the fouls. The officials talked to him more than once about something. I will say that for all the Priller fans out there...after Priller scored and the crowd cheered, Coach Miller turned to his staff and clearly shook his head, shrugged his shoulders, and said "I don't get it guys...I just don't get it."

11. Now to Coach Miller. He's constantly coaching. Constantly. If a kid comes out (not named Green) he's coaching them. Kids that are about to check in, he's coaching them. Miller went after the officials on a couple of blown calls...one of them was a strong issue for him. During a timeout, he chewed the ref for quite a while. Everyone in our section loved it. It wasn't fake or a show. Regardless of this being an exhibition, Coach Miller really was a bit Izzo-like with the refs on blown calls.  Miller has a few tricks up his sleeve. If the opposing teams ball handler gets close to our bench, Coach Miller gets real loud and animated imploring his defender to get up into him. Clearly, he's trying to disrupt the ball handler and aid his defender. You'll see it on the re-air. Coach Miller is definitely the leader of the team and staff. His staff knows the pecking order and they clearly respect those boundaries. The kids FULLY understand that mistakes have consequences. When a mistake is made, they immediately look over at the bench. The kids do not want to disappoint Coach Miller. He's very straightforward with them. He's also given this team to Green. He fully trusts him. Last point, Marian went into a zone defense, Coach Miller called out the adjustment on offense and we successfully executed a zone offense that resulted in Moore hitting a jumper from the free-throw line. There was no panic from the kids or the staff when they went into the zone and more importantly...they didn't settle...they executed what they wanted to execute and got a great look. 

 

So...there are my thoughts. I know it is  a bit long, but details are important with all the unknowns right now. I imagine I missed something here or there, but I tried to hit the things that really stuck out. Set the DVR for 8 AM on Tuesday to the Big Ten Network to watch the game. I am pleased with what we are doing guys and gals. This team is a bit like a square peg in a round hole at times, but the future is bright.

 

Working the refs and mistakes having consequences?  Music to my ears.  That'll be so much better than clapping after blown calls and players facing zero consequences for mistakes.

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40 minutes ago, Myrmidon76 said:

Just my thoughts from row 7 behind the Indiana bench:

1. The staff is busting their butt to get Johnson out of his funk. I know a lot of guys here are hoping this is a one off thing, but after last night and the inconsistency at Hysteria...the concern about Johnson "fitting in" should be very real.

2. I will defer any comments about Green. His effort this year has been thoroughly discussed and I agree that he is going to be "the guy" going forward.

3. Newkirk is completely comfortable with his new role. He defended much better last night. He really wants to make Miller happy and has no ego about getting coached...a good thing to see from a Senior.

4. Davis isn't going pro. He is improved but he had defensive lapses inside....I hate to say it, but they still appeared to be fatigue related. He's has improved, but he made enough mistakes to get booted from the huddle during a timeout.

5. Freddie is the best athlete on the team, but is almost always a mental step behind. His screens were off on their timing more than once and would appear to be out of sorts pretty regularly on both the offensive side and defensive side. His athleticism allows him to correct his mistakes now, but he will get exploited going forward by quality teams.

6. Curtis Jones is a decent offensive player, but didn't play a lick of good defense in the first half. Shoddy closeouts. Hands down. Lots of chasing. When Miller was referencing the guards getting beat in the post game comments...Jones is the culprit. To be fair, his defense improved in the second half.

7. Justin Smith tried to do too much at times. His effort is admirable for a freshman, but needs to play more within the flow of the offense instead of unnecessarily pushing the offensive tempo in the half court. His defense is going to be good for us as he improves. He doesn't give up ground and wants to play hard on the defensive side. I will say that the staff wants him to rebound with more intensity. They really took him to task about it.

8. Morgan is Morgan. I will say he took a few ill-advised deep shots early that were unnecessary, but we all know what he brings. He fits.

9. I know quite a few want Moore to be a real nightmare weapon. That isn't going to happen. He will get better, but right now...he's lost.Especially on the defensive end. You'll see it in the Big Ten Network re-air.  He should log the fewest minutes of all the freshman. He is very committed to rebounding well. He does have a chance to score on tips and outbacks. His defensive needs to improve drastically though.

10. McRoberts did some McRoberts things. Priller seemed genuinely pissed off about something and it showed in the fouls. The officials talked to him more than once about something. I will say that for all the Priller fans out there...after Priller scored and the crowd cheered, Coach Miller turned to his staff and clearly shook his head, shrugged his shoulders, and said "I don't get it guys...I just don't get it."

11. Now to Coach Miller. He's constantly coaching. Constantly. If a kid comes out (not named Green) he's coaching them. Kids that are about to check in, he's coaching them. Miller went after the officials on a couple of blown calls...one of them was a strong issue for him. During a timeout, he chewed the ref for quite a while. Everyone in our section loved it. It wasn't fake or a show. Regardless of this being an exhibition, Coach Miller really was a bit Izzo-like with the refs on blown calls.  Miller has a few tricks up his sleeve. If the opposing teams ball handler gets close to our bench, Coach Miller gets real loud and animated imploring his defender to get up into him. Clearly, he's trying to disrupt the ball handler and aid his defender. You'll see it on the re-air. Coach Miller is definitely the leader of the team and staff. His staff knows the pecking order and they clearly respect those boundaries. The kids FULLY understand that mistakes have consequences. When a mistake is made, they immediately look over at the bench. The kids do not want to disappoint Coach Miller. He's very straightforward with them. He's also given this team to Green. He fully trusts him. Last point, Marian went into a zone defense, Coach Miller called out the adjustment on offense and we successfully executed a zone offense that resulted in Moore hitting a jumper from the free-throw line. There was no panic from the kids or the staff when they went into the zone and more importantly...they didn't settle...they executed what they wanted to execute and got a great look. 

 

So...there are my thoughts. I know it is  a bit long, but details are important with all the unknowns right now. I imagine I missed something here or there, but I tried to hit the things that really stuck out. Set the DVR for 8 AM on Tuesday to the Big Ten Network to watch the game. I am pleased with what we are doing guys and gals. This team is a bit like a square peg in a round hole at times, but the future is bright.

 

Great post. I wish I could like it more than once. I'm just curious about one part. 

"11. Now to Coach Miller. He's constantly coaching. Constantly. If a kid comes out (not named Green) he's coaching them." 

Im just curious about what you saw regarding this and if you have any opinions on why he was different with Green. 

[lillurk 4,512]

With respect to Rob, I think some of us are reading far too much into one poor shooting night.

I'll watch the BTN replay, but we have three years' worth of evidence of who he can be, plus a summer in which he was perhaps the most lauded player by his new coach.

He's a career 39.6% 3 point shooter on a lot of attempts. He was 0/5 last night, and someone mentioned he missed five layups. I'm glad he was cold against Marian and not against Duke.

He had five boards, four assists, and a steal, with no turnovers. If a normal number of shots fall, his numbers would've rivaled Green's. Let's not write him off just yet.

[323SGrant 1,176]

Just my thoughts from row 7 behind the Indiana bench:
1. The staff is busting their butt to get Johnson out of his funk. I know a lot of guys here are hoping this is a one off thing, but after last night and the inconsistency at Hysteria...the concern about Johnson "fitting in" should be very real.
2. I will defer any comments about Green. His effort this year has been thoroughly discussed and I agree that he is going to be "the guy" going forward.
3. Newkirk is completely comfortable with his new role. He defended much better last night. He really wants to make Miller happy and has no ego about getting coached...a good thing to see from a Senior.
4. Davis isn't going pro. He is improved but he had defensive lapses inside....I hate to say it, but they still appeared to be fatigue related. He's has improved, but he made enough mistakes to get booted from the huddle during a timeout.
5. Freddie is the best athlete on the team, but is almost always a mental step behind. His screens were off on their timing more than once and would appear to be out of sorts pretty regularly on both the offensive side and defensive side. His athleticism allows him to correct his mistakes now, but he will get exploited going forward by quality teams.
6. Curtis Jones is a decent offensive player, but didn't play a lick of good defense in the first half. Shoddy closeouts. Hands down. Lots of chasing. When Miller was referencing the guards getting beat in the post game comments...Jones is the culprit. To be fair, his defense improved in the second half.
7. Justin Smith tried to do too much at times. His effort is admirable for a freshman, but needs to play more within the flow of the offense instead of unnecessarily pushing the offensive tempo in the half court. His defense is going to be good for us as he improves. He doesn't give up ground and wants to play hard on the defensive side. I will say that the staff wants him to rebound with more intensity. They really took him to task about it.
8. Morgan is Morgan. I will say he took a few ill-advised deep shots early that were unnecessary, but we all know what he brings. He fits.
9. I know quite a few want Moore to be a real nightmare weapon. That isn't going to happen. He will get better, but right now...he's lost.Especially on the defensive end. You'll see it in the Big Ten Network re-air.  He should log the fewest minutes of all the freshman. He is very committed to rebounding well. He does have a chance to score on tips and outbacks. His defensive needs to improve drastically though.
10. McRoberts did some McRoberts things. Priller seemed genuinely pissed off about something and it showed in the fouls. The officials talked to him more than once about something. I will say that for all the Priller fans out there...after Priller scored and the crowd cheered, Coach Miller turned to his staff and clearly shook his head, shrugged his shoulders, and said "I don't get it guys...I just don't get it."
11. Now to Coach Miller. He's constantly coaching. Constantly. If a kid comes out (not named Green) he's coaching them. Kids that are about to check in, he's coaching them. Miller went after the officials on a couple of blown calls...one of them was a strong issue for him. During a timeout, he chewed the ref for quite a while. Everyone in our section loved it. It wasn't fake or a show. Regardless of this being an exhibition, Coach Miller really was a bit Izzo-like with the refs on blown calls.  Miller has a few tricks up his sleeve. If the opposing teams ball handler gets close to our bench, Coach Miller gets real loud and animated imploring his defender to get up into him. Clearly, he's trying to disrupt the ball handler and aid his defender. You'll see it on the re-air. Coach Miller is definitely the leader of the team and staff. His staff knows the pecking order and they clearly respect those boundaries. The kids FULLY understand that mistakes have consequences. When a mistake is made, they immediately look over at the bench. The kids do not want to disappoint Coach Miller. He's very straightforward with them. He's also given this team to Green. He fully trusts him. Last point, Marian went into a zone defense, Coach Miller called out the adjustment on offense and we successfully executed a zone offense that resulted in Moore hitting a jumper from the free-throw line. There was no panic from the kids or the staff when they went into the zone and more importantly...they didn't settle...they executed what they wanted to execute and got a great look. 
 
So...there are my thoughts. I know it is  a bit long, but details are important with all the unknowns right now. I imagine I missed something here or there, but I tried to hit the things that really stuck out. Set the DVR for 8 AM on Tuesday to the Big Ten Network to watch the game. I am pleased with what we are doing guys and gals. This team is a bit like a square peg in a round hole at times, but the future is bright.
 

Not too long for me. Thx for the info.


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I'm certainly not writing Rob off. But it's clear that he was struggling last night. I want him to be rewarded for returning this year. I guess what I saw from him last night makes me disappointed for him. I'm not disappointed in his poor offensive performance as I know he's capable. I'm looking forward to the U of Indy game to see adjustments.

[WayneFleekHoosier 50,005]

With respect to Rob, I think some of us are reading far too much into one poor shooting night.
I'll watch the BTN replay, but we have three years' worth of evidence of who he can be, plus a summer in which he was perhaps the most lauded player by his new coach.
He's a career 39.6% 3 point shooter on a lot of attempts. He was 0/5 last night, and someone mentioned he missed five layups. I'm glad he was cold against Marian and not against Duke.
He had five boards, four assists, and a steal, with no turnovers. If a normal number of shots fall, his numbers would've rivaled Green's. Let's not write him off just yet.

Yeah, he'll be fine.

All the missed shots aside, the play that bothered me most was on a breakout. Pretty much a 3 on 1. Had DD on his right for an oop or a wrap around and drove right into the defender for a bad layup attempt.

He was out of sync in general in my opinion. I'm chalking it up as a bad game and that's all. But I'll be watching him more closely over the next few.

I know the staff has made it a point to feature him in its marketing and such. He will right the ship. Amazing the difference it makes when shots are falling.


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WayneFleekHoosier....Coach Miller was very detailed about the grab that was missed (I think it was Smith running across the middle portion of the lane). He let him know that "Hey, that's on you to watch those jerseys getting pulled". The official did the old "Sorry, Coach I didn't see it". Coach Miller then let him know that he shouldn't miss another one. I paid a lot of attention to it because Wisconsin comes to mind when dealing with Jersey pulling on cross lane runs. 

[Myrmidon76 614]

25 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Great post. I wish I could like it more than once. I'm just curious about one part. 

"11. Now to Coach Miller. He's constantly coaching. Constantly. If a kid comes out (not named Green) he's coaching them." 

Im just curious about what you saw regarding this and if you have any opinions on why he was different with Green. 

Coaches all have "that" guy. During lulls in play, Coach Miller was talking to Green or Newkirk on the court...mainly Green. Think back to Knight pulling Cheaney or Guyton out...those conversations (if any) were brief. Green is the player he can lean on. He allows Green to tell him what he is seeing. I'm telling you...as Green goes...so do we.

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11 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Yeah, he'll be fine.

All the missed shots aside, the play that bothered me most was on a breakout. Pretty much a 3 on 1. Had DD on his right for an oop or a wrap around and drove right into the defender for a bad layup attempt.

He was out of sync in general in my opinion. I'm chalking it up as a bad game and that's all. But I'll be watching him more closely over the next few.

I know the staff has made it a point to feature him in its marketing and such. He will right the ship. Amazing the difference it makes when shots are falling.


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Bingo on the breakout. Should've given the ball back to the big running the floor. I hope he comes out of it, but right now he looks very uncomfortable.

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1 minute ago, Myrmidon76 said:

Coaches all have "that" guy. During lulls in play, Coach Miller was talking to Green or Newkirk on the court...mainly Green. Think back to Knight pulling Cheaney or Guyton out...those conversations (if any) were brief. Green is the player he can lean on. He allows Green to tell him what he is seeing. I'm telling you...as Green goes...so do we.

Devonte Green has arguably as much potential as anyone on this team. You could see glimpses of it last year. Crean was just too dumb to see it. The guy can play

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I thought they all looked uncomfortable for about the first 10 or so. They settled into a rhythm after that. Then again a 3-4 minute lull to start the second half.

Come to think of it, I wonder if that starting lineup was having problems getting in sync. Maybe just a coincidence but our worst 10-15 of ball had the starting lineup in.


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[coonhounds 10,189]

I would have zero concern about rob after last night alone but he has a history of being a great player then disappearing for stretches of games. He started good last season then was gone so that is why i am worried. I feel he will get going but wont be shocked if he gets lost for the most part this season

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1 minute ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I thought they all looked uncomfortable for about the first 10 or so. They settled into a rhythm after that. Then again a 3-4 minute lull to start the second half.

Come to think of it, I wonder if that starting lineup was having problems getting in sync. Maybe just a coincidence but our worst 10-15 of ball had the starting lineup in.


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Dead on with the nerves for the beginning of the game. I was a little concerned, but I will say that the defense never really panicked. There was also a vibe that you just knew the offense would begin to settle down and execute. There were certainly lineup combinations that didn't work well. I think the starting lineup will "evolve" as the kids jockey in the scheme.

[HoosierAloha 30,100]

Excellent post. I agree with it all. You were a bit closer and got some better details.

Could you tell what Archie was yelling across the court to the one ref late game during FTs. The ref even answered back clear across the court.

I noticed the Priller stuff too. It's fun for the crowd but it has to be very awkward for him.


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Max mentioned something on the broadcast that Priller said he (Priller) is a goofy guy and does goofy things. I don't remember, verbatim, what he said but Priller doesn't mind it in the least.


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[HoosierAloha 30,100]

Just to pick a small portion out of that great recap of the game. I wonder if rob is struggling with green being the clear leader and Miller favorite thinking this should be his team. Just a thought but he should be ready to lead a team but was damaged by crap coaching. I feel if our former coach was here rob and Colin would be definitely the leaders and go to guys. I do feel Colin will still be a leader on court and off this year and hope rob can put it together for a entire season this year

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When you have an alpha dog you put that alpha dog in a position to lead and succeed. I don't think FCTC could see this because he wasn't an alpha dog. CAM is and can see it.

In the best case scenario, your alpha dog is also a upperclassman. However, if he's not you get your upperclassmen to fall in line with it.


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